r/Enneagram

your type is the most fascinating to me because the core idea seems to be suffering? lol so like, do you ever feel satisfied with your life?

So as an Sp2 I am very averse to growing older. Infact I am sort of dreading my upcoming 25th birthday and the fact that im not far off from my late 20s now. And yeah its because of the fact that growing older means i cannot hide behind naivete and helplessness anymore that i would be expected to know things better to make less mistakes and have more expectations to not disappoint others. As a child I thought i would have things figured out by now but ofc I still have not. I want to stay young because I can get more easily excused.

Whats your experience with growing older.

im always surprised when someone likes me, i feel like im too weird to be liked for my authentic self.. so i feel happy but also confused when someone accepts me the way i am.. i think its rare

Three years into the Enneagram and I'm only just getting to grips with the world that is 7; the micro-world that is SX7; the alternative or complementary world that is 7w8; ditto SO-blind 7. (All working hypotheses, btw: I wouldn't be shocked beyond belief if I woke up one day and realised I was an 8, after all.)

Let's say there are 27 subtypes - not a particularly controversial idea. Let's say each subtype has two lines, which they can use in both healthy and unhealthy ways. Isn't that a staggering amount of learning time just to understand the basics? And that's before wings, stackings, age, gender and culture muddy the waters.

I hear people on here merrily talking about their friend who's a 925 and their mother, a 741 etc. Allowing for the fact that this is all guesswork anyway, WTF?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

can someone give clear differences (but not obvious) of type 7 vs 5? how can they be mistyped for each other? are 7s usually mistyped as 5s??

There are some people who tend to laugh when they're opening up about their problems for example or smile when talking about something bad that happened to them. My mother is a good example of this. People tend to think she is weird because she does this often. She would break down to tears if someone pointed it out that it's not funny. She doesn't think it's funny either, she just reacts that way to defend her emotions.

Could this be linked to the positive outlook triad or is it completely unrelated?

I wonder about that but also generally about what types look like when they're under the influence of their environment in a way that contraddicts their being. Also things like what would a depersonalization four look like? If that can even be something that happens. A narcissistic so9? A depressed 7 that doesn't do much with their life anymore?

Something I’ve been thinking about is what very basic needs each type is trying to meet. I believe—like many others have proposed—this falls on the cores: Heart, Head, and Gut. To meet Love & Acceptance, Safety & Security, and Agency & Autonomy. The center of the cores—3, 6, 9–are by far the most interesting. I think they may utilize the values of different cores to meet their needs.

The 3 uses agency & autonomy to gain love and acceptance, noted by their assertiveness and constant action. The 6 uses love & acceptance to gain safety & security, noted by their compliance and loyalty. The 9 uses safety & security to gain agency & autonomy, noted by their attachment to habit and tendency to make themselves small to avoid disruption.

I am curious if this is measuring something that is already highly discussed—aside from stress arrows—or if there are any perspectives that may disprove or challenge this.

For me, E1 social Instinct 9 wing, being a so1 is fearing a universe with no sense, and no right, no law and no order, rather than fearing a universe with no life (sp), or a life without love (sx).

Just a thought I felt like sharing in the hope that it may help you find a new interesting stimulus for another meaningful take on the subject.

Please feel free to share your own pov of your type and subtype

It's now my birthday, happy day to everyone!