A message for all 2s

Expecting rejection, you don't want to offer all of yourself. You want to offer something that you think people will receive. In doing this, you not only manipulate others into loving only a small piece of yourself, but fool your own self into identifying with that small piece after doing this for so long, forgetting that you are much more than someone who simply gives and lives for others. Worse, you exaggerate this piece of yourself into something it simply is not. You aren't as selfless as you may think, and neither are you as abundant in what you assume you have to provide to others.

If you want others to love you for you, and not simply for what you have to offer them, you need to show up to the world as your FULL self. Present not only the parts of you that you think will be well received, but also the parts that you think might not. The parts that need just as much love as the few you've only been comfortable with sharing thus far.

When you do this, the people who only like you for what you do for them and not for who you actually are will fall away, while the people who genuinely love you for you will stay. Yes, this means you're going to lose some relationships. You might even find that you've only surrounded yourself with people who never actually loved the real you to begin with, and thus "lose" everyone you thought was originally a friend in the process. But maybe those relationships are no longer serving you, and needed to end a long time ago. After all, wouldn't it better to have one real friend than ten fake ones? Maybe you'll find someone new who you previously never would've been able to be in a relationship with had you continued to do with them what you always did with everyone else before, which was to present yourself only as the parts of you that you deemed "likeable." Someone might just like those parts of yourself you always automatically assumed were unlikeable in the past!

You aren't selfish for having needs, and we all need to be loved simply for who we are, (that is, our true and authentic selves). You need to quit binding others through the unspoken contract you force upon them that says, "If I flatter you and give to you, you'll like me back," because you not only bind other people but yourself also by doing this, as this kind of contract goes both ways. "Love" with strings attached is no love at all, and you are tied to the same strings you tie others with whenever you make your self-worth dependent on others "confirming" this false perception you have of yourself. This false perception that says you "have no needs" and are "only here to fulfill the needs of others'," because this image you've curated paradoxically (and ironically) needs others to even confirm its own validity!

You free yourself and others to love each other unconditionally when you finally cut the strings, and quit trying to "make" people like you. You don't need to "make" anyone like you because you are loveable exactly the way you are, totally and completely. You are worthy of love for simply existing. After all, there is no other you. You're the only you that will ever exist, and that makes you special and worthy of love already. When you finally understand and integrate all this, and I mean truly integrate it all (easier said than done, I know), you might be surprised with just how many people will still both stick around and want you around afterward...

Remember, the sun that shines doesn't need the grass to appreciate its rays. It shines regardless. So keep on shining, my friends 😊

u/Original_Assistance3 — 18 hours ago

What does an sp/sx 2 even look like?

Genuinely curious, as it's hard for me to imagine a social-blind 2. I guess it's generally hard for me to picture any compliant type as social-blind, but I feel this as especially being the case for 2s for whatever reason. I'm assuming an sp/sx 2 would be a lot more introverted than your typical 2?

Bonus question: Any Sp2 males out there? If so, what is it like? (This bonus question here applies to sp/so male 2s as well, so you don't necessarily have to be social-blind to answer this part of the post specifically.)

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u/Original_Assistance3 — 2 days ago

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u/Original_Assistance3 — 3 days ago

What's your type, and what's your top ten favorite movies of all time?

I'm a 2, and the following movies (in no specific order) are my top ten favorite of all time (as of this moment; it's always open to change, of course, lol):

  • Les Misérables (1998)

  • A Walk to Remember

  • Hacksaw Ridge

  • Dead Man Walking

  • About Schmidt

  • WALL-E

  • Finding Nemo

  • Surf's Up

  • Fantastic Mr. Fox

  • Megamind

I haven't seen it yet, but just knowing how I am, I feel like It's a Wonderful Life would probably make it on this list if I ever did get around to watching it lol.

u/Original_Assistance3 — 6 days ago

How would you type all the Disney princesses? 👸

Off the top of my head, Tiana from The Princess and the Frog is a pretty obvious Sp3. Wondering about the rest of them, tho 🤔

u/Original_Assistance3 — 7 days ago

Movie recommendation for 2s (especially male 2s): Les Misérables, 1998 version

Us 2s don't get a lot of movies or stories in general with a main character who shares our core type, so I just wanted to make this post in order to help fellow 2s feel seen like I did haha. I personally type the main character in this movie as an Sp2w1. The villain is an So1w9, I think. It's a pretty good 2 vs 1 story. You don't get a lot of 2 vs 1 stories other than maybe, idk, the Gospels with Jesus vs the Pharisees. (I know it's controversial to say this, but I honestly think Jesus was probably a So2, and no I'm not saying that just because I'm a So2 myself as I suspected he was one long before I ever even found out my own typing lol.) You definitely don't get a lot of stories with a male e2 for a main character, either, so shoutout to all my male 2s out there who are always struggling with finding characters/people to identify with that aren't just straight up villains like Lotso and Caine (until the latter was redeemed, of course). Or characters that are way over-the-top caricatures of us like Michael Scott 💀

Idk if any of the other versions of Les Misérables make their respective main character e2, as I've never seen them, but I know for sure that the 1998 version does so at least.

Some other good movies that have a 2 as the lead character are Dead Man Walking and Clueless. They have female leads instead, but they're great movies with equally great main characters that I still heavily resonated with as a core 2 (despite me being a man).

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u/Original_Assistance3 — 8 days ago

Type me based on my villain origin story (my childhood) 😈

I already know my type and I'm confident about it at this point, but I'm lowkey just curious as to how y'all would react to what's written here lol.

This all basically comes from a comment I wrote on another post the other day:

>>Felt like everyone loved me up until my brother was born. No hate to my brother, it's not his fault (you can't control being born, after all, lol), but I did unfortunately take out my anger about this on him at times when we were younger.

>>It just felt like I was showered in love and praise and everything, but all the love was suddenly ripped away from me the exact moment my brother was born. Everybody in my family sorta just threw me to the wayside like some used toy they didn't wanna play with anymore once my brother basically replaced me. And I was always so angry and hurt about this, wondering what the heck I did so wrong for everybody to not care about me anymore like they used to... And I felt jealous toward my brother often about this. Like he just took my spot or something, idk lol.

>>A funny story my parents always tell me is that, when we went to visit the doctor for an ultrasound for my mom, and they found out that she was pregnant, I was in the room with them and I sulked with my head down all sad for whatever reason. (They say it's because of me hearing the news that another kid was now on the way.) So I was apparently really jealous and sad that someone else was probably going to start getting all the attention or something. That's probably how little me interpreted it, anyway. But my parents say I was really happy and excited the day my little brother was born, oddly enough.

>>Anyway, my parents definitely always preferred my little brother over me. I think my little brother knew this and he sorta felt bad for me, lol. I remember having to go through a bunch of barriers to get whatever I wanted after him. I basically had to convince my little brother that what I wanted was also what he wanted, and then he'd go and ask our parents for something we both now wanted (to which I'd also tell him exactly what to say to them btw haha), because both he and I knew that if I asked them verbatim the same thing, they'd say no to me but yes to him. Makes me angry and hurt just typing this or even thinking about it, but it is what it is I guess lol. He always got more freedoms earlier on than me. He got to do a bunch of stuff I wouldn't be able to do till years later. And he'd get away with way more than I ever could.

>>The funny part is that my brother is a 7(w8), and grew up to be someone who caused (and still causes) my parents a lot of stress since he's a very free spirited person, is never home, always pushing things and the limits of what he can and can't do, sometimes living on the edge or doing risky stuff in general, etc. Meanwhile, I'm always home while my parents are bickering and I'm always there to step up and do something about it to either mediate or else pick up the slack whenever one of them is not treating the other right (like serving my dad food whenever mom is angry at him and won't do it herself, for example). Always parenting my parents emotionally, since they'd confide in me and tell me stuff a child definitely shouldn't have had the stress about trying to fix or even hear about (for example, stuff about what the other parent has done or is doing that destroys the image in my head that I had of each of them; but I listened and gave advice anyway since I noticed I was useful to them for this, and this made me someone that they needed), or they just weren't emotionally mature enough to handle a lot of stuff to begin with (parent had a bad day at work, so now I gotta go make sure dad or mom feels better). I'm never going out and staying out till 2 in the morning, not letting my parents know where I am or whatever. I'm there to love and support my parents always whenever they need something, and I was a very good and obedient kid. But my brother was always the more popular one between us all the time in my family FOR SOME REASON!!!

>>Okay got a bitttt angry and jealous there at the end, not good 😃 I love my brother, it's not his fault. I'm angrier at my parents at the unfairness of it all more than anything. I know they did their best and that they do in fact love me. And I do love them!

>>It's just sometimes hard to get over the fact that my parents always had his birthday for all their passwords, and never mine...

u/Original_Assistance3 — 10 days ago

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u/Original_Assistance3 — 10 days ago

Songs that make you go "Yup, that's definitely a type X song"?

I know this kind of post has been done a million times and I've even done it myself before, but I'm bored rn so idc lol. It's always a fun post to make and engage with anyway.

Off the top of my head, "Promiscuous by Nelly Furtado (Ft. Timbaland)" is very obviously a sx-dom song (probably Sx2w3 + ESxP lol).

A lot of K-Pop and South Korean culture in general seems to be heavily 2 coded (e.g., "Cupid" by FIFTY FIFTY).

"Applause" by Lady Gaga is SUPER 3 coded (even if she herself is not a core 3; she seems more like a 4w3 irl tbh, so maybe that 3 wing of her's was doing a lot of the heavy lifting whenever she made this song lol).

"Stressed Out" by twenty one pilots is e4 + IxFP coded. (I could be wrong, as it very well could actually be e9 instead; correct me if I'm wrong in the comments haha.)

"Kiss of Life" by Sade and "Kiss Me" by Sixpence None the Richer both give me Sx9 vibes.

And uhhh that's all I can think of at the moment lol.

Your turn!

u/Original_Assistance3 — 12 days ago

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Happy typing!

u/Original_Assistance3 — 17 days ago

Are lines of integration and disintegration lowkey dumb?

I feel like when I'm super unhealthy, I act more like a 4. Very withdrawn, moody, existentialist/nihilistic, act like a victim, feel like nobody likes me for the "real me," etc. I mean don't get me wrong, I can definitely move to 8 in unhealth too. I can get bossy, demanding, big, forceful, angry, thinking everyone is stupid and all that. But more often than not, I look way more 4-ish when I'm super depressed and just done with everything. And I sure as heck ain't a 1 (who "disintegrates" to 4) lol.

Wondering if any other folks relate to looking more like the type they're supposed to "integrate" towards whenever they're actually very unhealthy instead. Doesn't even have to be other 2s, could be any type. Do any 1s, for example, relate to looking more "7-ish" when in unhealth? I notice this with my mom, who is very much a 1 (though I can also see the 4 come out when she's stressed as well, lol; it seems you can move toward either line you have in unhealth tbh).

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u/Original_Assistance3 — 22 days ago
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I just made an observation about the heart triad and I think I just cooked

Okay so, I think I found a way to frame the core struggle and pattern of the Heart triad, as well as ways to expand on and describe each of their respective struggles within the aformentioned frame.

The Heart (or "Image"/Gaze) triad tends to think to themselves (whether consciously or unconsciously): "No one will ever just accept me for who I am. So I need to..."

For the 2, the full statement or belief would be something like, "No one will ever just accept me for who I am. So I need to... make myself needed, so that they'd want me around."

For the 3, the full statement or belief would be something like, "No one will ever just accept me for who I am. So I need to... conform to whatever the standard is according to others that merits the most amount of praise and applause, and exceed it."

For the 4, the full statement or belief would be something like, "No one will ever just accept me for who I am. So I need to... double down on my differences and flaws, and exaggerate these things to filter out those who actually like me for me from those who don't."

Each of these strategies make a lot of sense with the more fundamental and root issue that each type in the Heart triad deals with as it concerns their respective Object Relations. It makes sense that Rejection + Heart/Image/Gaze manifests as a 2, that Attachment + Heart/Image/Gaze manifests as a 3, and that Frustration + Heart/Image/Gaze manifests as a 4. I could technically explain why here but I don't feel like it rn and I wanna make this post as short as possible to reach the most amount of people (lol). I also might explain later down in the comments, who knows 🤷‍♂️ Depends on if someone already does it for me later or if I have to do it if no one else does/no one else can do it as properly as me haha

u/Original_Assistance3 — 23 days ago