So like I'm Levf I'm sure that I am 1L 2E and 3V but I'm sure I'm not 4f

like I'm anything but 4f is this normal or am I mistyped😭?

Hii I'm new to Psychosophy (and typology in general) and I've spent the last few hours learning about Psychosophy to try and type myself. I have come to the conclusion that I am most likely **EL or at least low E, thing is, I don't think I am FV** or VF** at all and am very confused 😓😓 Any tips or things I should keep in mind while trying to type myself? I've also been considering being 3V 4/2E but I don't feel like it fits me

My partner is 1F, either a FVLE or FLEV (also most likely LSE/LIE). I’m ELFV + EII, and… man, we do have many banters about physic topics. I thought I was 4F earlier, because of lack of energy, but honestly… looking back there was a lot of signs that I heavily leaned into 3F4V.
So, the question is: how do you live with 1F without constantly clashing about physic topics like health/food/cleaning, and etc? 1F loves to tease me on this topics, picking up at my clumsiness/lack of energy/stuff like hypochondria and etc. Sometimes I’m more or less ok with it, but… the problem is when I tried to explained that harsh criticism about food/health/cleaning aspect makes me feel bad, his answer was like “you like being with me? Then adapt or leave, because I won’t change.” And sometimes he can be angry when he’s hungry/being awaken/doesn’t have cigarettes on hand. I value him, but man, I feel like it’s constant punches between those two positions of functions in our relationships. His 2V is also constantly trying to push me to “development” and educate me on “being less yielding/pliable”, and I understand he means well, but… uh, I’m feeling pretty fine as I am about volition aspect, which seems like a problem to him.
So, the question is: how do you talk to stubborn 1F that is nitpicking on a small things or gets reactively angry on your weak 3rd function? (3F in my case.) Talking with him about it doesn’t seem to change his mind. Anyone here who was interacting with the 1F gang on a short distance for a long time with being 3F and finding a solution for this?
Thanks in advance for the answers.

I often find myself struggling with whether I am a 1E or a 1F. I haven't read Syntax of Love, and I think that's one of the reasons why I'm confused and unable to type myself correctly.

Why I think I could be a 1E and 1F is perhaps how I tend to overlap my understanding towards pursuing what pleases me. For example, I would buy my favorite coffee because I simply crave it. I would watch videos on YouTube to stimulate myself since I can be bored most of the time. I like buying things and merches such as figures or stuffed toys, but I struggle keeping them clean since I feel lazy to do so. My appetite for the consumption of food or any materials depends on my mood. I would wear my sweater even if it were hot because if I felt like I looked good, I would refrain from being too affected by my own discomfort, but sometimes I would still remove it if I start feeling itchy because of my sweat. Sometimes, I dislike eating even though I feel hungry, but I would also eat a lot if I "felt" like doing so. I like pleasing my needs, but sometimes I feel like doing it is a drag. I don't want much grandeur like buying expensive products.

For what I am aware of is that 1E is quite expressive and genuine to their own emotions. Through obvious gestures, loudness or softness of their voice, or simply just looking at their face, you can determine what they feel quickly. I am naturally expressive, but mostly whenever I am comfortable to do so, but there will be instances when I need to mask my emotions if I feel that I might be perceived as too vulnerable or weak. I hate how expressive I am and how I can't stop myself from feeling. Whenever someone is being vulnerable, I would either want to try and comfort them or maybe too indifferent, but it always ends up that I wouldn't do anything since I am not great with my words. The way I regard others' emotions is biased, for I always find myself to only care for them most of the time if I like this person or not. I would also speak out and vent my emotions freely once I trust this person a lot; I feel that I couldn't refrain from being too transparent with them. I do still dislike it sometimes since it's making me feel vulnerable.

When it comes to my logic placement, I regard myself as 3L because most of the time, I find myself enjoying how to articulate my thoughts and sometimes sharing them with others when people ask me but I hate it when some people who feel superior to their own opinion will try to educate me in a way that is ridiculing my thoughts. I love discussing opinions with others, but once this person tries to convince me I am wrong rather than discussing it thoroughly, I would immediately get turned off since I value the process of discussing it rather than simply pushing the facts right on my face.

Lastly, my volition is low since I don't really have a concrete plan on what to do for my future although I dislike it when people try to tell me what to do. I don't know what I'm doing, but I still try to figure it out by myself. I don't really like taking the leader role since I don't really care much about getting people together. I wouldn't mind following others as long as it aligns with what I believe and want.

Hi! My name is Charlie, and I'm having a bit of an identity crisis right now about where does my "L" belongs.

I wrote this little analysis for myself:

♠︎; I love arguing for the sheer pleasure of it. Debating, expressing points of view, etc. I also like arguing, even though I get socially tired of arguments and fights.

♤; If I believe I'm right, I'm not going to back down. I find it very difficult to change my mind unless my 'opponent's' reasoning is more valid than mine and convinces me.

♠︎; I like to see other points of view as long as they don't try to impose them on me or go against human rights. Most of the time, when I see arguments against what I believe, I listen carefully and agree with them if they're right, but my main purpose is to refute their point because when think they're wrong.

♤; I think that if everyone shared my opinions, the world would be a better place.

♠︎; I try to remain respectful in debates, saying things like "I respect your opinion," etc., because I'm a polite person and genuinely don't want anyone to feel bad or inferior (because they aren't). But I understand that this is also fueled by the fear that the people I argue with will hate me, because on many occasions I don't respect their opinion and they should have mine (especially regarding social issues).

♤; I like to defend myself and my point of view. In debates, most of the time I'm the one correcting others, and there are times when we both end up sharing the same perspective. Personally, I don't recall a time when someone else's point of view completely changed mine.

Examples:

- I belong to a religion, and in my case, I'm what most people call 'liberal', so my debates with orthodox believers are always aimed at changing their minds or simply presenting my point of view so they can change their minds, since their opinion tarnishes the religion and hurts people.

- Regarding abortion, I'm very clear that I'm pro-choice, but since there are certain limits on this issue that I haven't defined well, I can take bits of other people's opinions and analyze them to reach my own conclusion.

- Once, a friend told me not to use chatGPT because it harms the planet (and so on). I barely knew anything about this topic at the time, so I simply told her I didn't care. But since I was curious, I started researching it, and now I share her opinion.

- When I don't know about a topic, I try not to just jump in debate until I learn about it. However, on topics that don't interest me (like soccer), I simply rely on the opinion of someone I trust who knows about the subject.

Could you guys help me a little? Thank you.

I’ve been trying to figure out my psychosophy for ages but I always get stuck, specifically on Will which is ironic since I thought it was supposed to be one of the easiest function to figure out. I checked out 1V, but it seems too focused on having power and control and that doesn’t seem to be me nor someone I’d want to be. Then there’s 2V, I thought I could be 2V but I’m basically 100% sure that I’m 2L and moving Logic to another position just would not fit me at all. 3V, my answer is similar to 1V. I don’t mind not having control, it does not upset me. Lastly 4V, i was specifically stuck between 2V and 4V, but 4V seems to not be bothered by decision making and in fact prefer when others decide for them, and that’s also not me. I enjoy making decisions, I don’t always have to but I still enjoy it even though I’m pretty indecisive sometimes. Just to clarify, I was going to just be like “Oh that’s only one trait that I don’t relate to, I can still be 4V!” But I also strongly believe I’m 4E. That’s why my options are pretty limited, before I thought I was FLEV/FLVE but then i started to realise I don’t really relate to my Will position, so I attempted to type myself from scratch. Also, I’m not sure if this is a stereotype or not but about 1F, some people describe it as “someone who follows a specific routine because they know what works for them”, is it alright if I don’t relate to that, or would it cancel out? Because I’m quite the opposite, I dislike plans and routines as they seem to predictable and boring for me and I’m often just focused on stimulation and excitement, so being bored is basically my biggest fear, if that even makes sense.

That’s kind of about it I think, I can’t remember if I was going to say something else but yeah pls help me type myself! And if theres any questions anyone wants to ask then feel free to do so!!

I have read syntax of love multiple times, I've reconsidered my typing over and over again, yet everytime it feels unsatisfactory. Any function placed in 4th function seems to make little sense for me. I am too focused on physical pleasures and appearance to be a 4F (reason why up until now I was typing myself as 1F), too focused on the emotional sphere and how to influence others and control my own expression to be a 4E (reason why up until now I was typing myself as 2E), too reactive and preocuppied about social hierarchies and my social image to be a 4V (reason why up until now I was typing myself as 3V). HOWEVER, and as many will ask themselves while reading this, I also don't relate at all with 4L, as I'm far too confident and curious about the intellectual sphere, and sure, nowadays I will disregard logic for the sake of my other functions, but it is still a primary part of me too which i often work on and enjoy stimulating.

There's like a complete dettachment from my part to the idea of having a 4th function, I care too much about all of them. I am hedonistic to an extensive extent and hold a materialistic view of the world; I am deeply enthralled by emotional expression, the arts and influencing others; I strive to maintain a social image and i want to have emotional power over others, I tend to egotistical thinking often even; and I am a very logically dominant person, I tend to be very structured in my way of thinking but also really enjoy discussing ideas with others and working on it.

Why could this aversion to an Unbothered Function be?

I'm thinking of the mindset where someone avoids fully trying because failing or being merely average would threaten how they see themselves. They hold a very high image of themselves and think they have a huge potential in every aspect, sort of like a megalomaniac, but it could all be shattered (identity) by seeing how they REALLY perform. By not attempting to take action and not prove that theyre unable to meet this imaginary potential of theirs, they can preserve the belief that they could have succeeded, rather than risk shattering their self image. Which Enneagram type does this sound most like to you?
btw if you think this suits any specific subtypes, please let me know as well!

If parents have full agape, for example FEVL and LVEF
What types would they kids have?

if someone tells him to open up he denies it by saying “men don’t cry or show weakness.” and if his som is crying he says “get a grip loser.”

if a woman threatens him because if his abuse (he treats them as lower than he is) he pushes them and yells at them aggressively making threats

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I saw a post earlier about Afanasyev’s concept of high and low Will and how it deals with the idea of agency, low Will embodying determinism and high Will embodying the concept of free will. It explained that due to that, it is a misconception that all individuals with high Will embody the ideal traits necessary to succeed within a capitalist system. According to the post, low Will types have a more adaptive posture toward reality which might make them more likely to “succeed within a pre-existing framework.”

So I’m curious to see what others’ volition placements are and what that’s like for you guys.

For instance, I’m 4V and I enter college next semester, but in high school I can’t say I was that successful. I’m only going to a T40-T50 university in the US. I made friends easily and was top 5% of my graduating class, but I wasn’t much of a leader and had a hard time getting authority figures to like me, so I’m not sure how well I’ll hold up at a serious job in the future.

I consider myself to be a LVEF for now, and I'm sure about everything except 4F. I'm underweight and insecure of it, I'm insecure about a lot of things on my body in general. My mom forcefully sent me to gym for a month so I could "gain weight" but after the subscription ended I told her I didn't want to go anymore. I've went to voleyball for a while during high school because I liked playing, but quit after my friend did. I don't move a lot during the day and I to be honest only do so my mom doesn't scold me for it. I skip meals a lot, stay in bed almost all the time, and don't really like showering and find it too exhausting even though it's embarassing to admit. I'm not actively working on fixing my insecurities, like my weight, I don't count calories or anything like that. I mostly eat for the taste and consume fast food a lot despite being told not to by my doctors or the gym counselor. I have a few health issues and when I'm told to take a medicine everyday during certain hours for example, or use a healing cream on my skin, I struggle with making them habits and even if I do keep it up for a month or so, I eventually stop doing it and thinking about it (which is happening right now). I'm a picky eater, I don't eat something if I don't like the taste or the texture of it. If there's a food I have never tried and I don't like how it looks, smells, or even if I do but someone tells me "I don't think you'd like that" I don't eat it. I hate washing dishes because I find it gross, I say the sentence "I'm going to throw up" a lot and if I look at someone gagging or someone keeps talking about vomiting I end up throwing up (not often, but there are instances of it happening). I'm disgusted pretty easily. I'm physically weak and I don't really care to change that unless it messes with my lifestyle. If my parents did not constantly ask about my physical state and send me to doctors, I'd just like to forget about my health problems until they become too fatal to ignore. My teeth, for example, I hate going to dentists, and the last time I went to one, the plan was for many different sessions for each of my tooth (I had 4 teeth that needed to be fixed). After the first 2, I stopped going and never mentioned it again. My teeth still hurt like, once in two months, and I ignore the pain until it stops.

At first I thought I was LVFE, but I changed my mind quickly because even though everything above sounds like 3F, I feel like I'm a stronger 3E than I am a 3F. And I apologize if I sound stupid, or if I'm adding irrelevant facts, I'm new to this system and I might be wrong about a lot of things about it. That's why I'm asking for help in general.

I want to state reasons why I think I'm 3E now, and I might not be able to give enough examples since it feels too vulnerable, but here I go anyway. At first I thought I was 4E because of how stoic I am usually, or how I seem emotionless. My sister, and some of my classmates, and friends (in different stages of my life) have described me as robotic, and when I ask them to draw me in a joking way, they usually just draw this 😐 emoji. And to be honest, that's how I saw myself and even liked being called a robot sometimes. But as I grew up I realized I'm not as emotionally passive as I think I am. I just hate being emotional or vulnerable in general. I remember when one time a teacher asked me to stay after everyone left to talk to me about something bad I did, (aggressively lashing out at my classmates) and when she asked me if I notice my own behavior, when I tried to answer, I just burst out crying. Me crying around my teachers has happened a few more times, and it's always when I'm alone with them, never in a full class. I keep my feelings private, and I often have to ensure my friends that I'm having a good time with them despite looking bored because I can't openly show it and I don't know what the right way of doing that is. I question my feelings a lot, think about them too much even. I'm often distrustful of other's feelings, I think a lot about them and try to understand them at the least. When I watch things alone in my room, for example emotionally charged videos of people crying when good or bad things happen to them, I tear up watching them too, or simply when I'm watching a movie/show and a character I feel close to is crying, I somehow end up crying too. If I feel this urge while watching with others or in public, I try my best not to react at all or to make my tears go away as fast as possible without anyone seeing them. I don't want to be perceived as someone emotional.

I feel like this is too much of a pointless yap session but if someone professional (or someone simply just sharing an opinion) wanted to help I'd be happy. And just in case, I am a intp sp/sx 5(w6)84.

What are the most common LEVF correlations? I already know all of my typology and am super certain about it given I have done so much research into it and am very self reflective and introspective but I know many people would say my typing would be not possible all together and though I completely disagree with that, I want to know what would be considered to go with LEVF

I recently returned to typology, but I've always had doubts about my PY. Long story short, I used to identify with LEFV until recently.

I realized that I'm actually closer to being 2V and I used to confuse it with 4V because I am emotionally constipated and sometimes feel like I dont care about practically anything.

Now, I don't feel strong emotions, or if I do, it's very rare. However, I adapt very well to my social circles (in one I'm quiet, and in another I'm the one who talks the most). This would make me think that maybe I'm a 4E, however my other problem is that I've never felt identified with my physics, since I don't really care about material things, so I don't know which one I am.

Btw (before anyone says 3V), I identify with 2V because I'm very focused on the potential of others and try to help them realize it. I usually have a leadership role in my circles and I strive for diplomacy. Although I don't rule out the possibility, I don't identify with it for now.

Will:

Struggling to exert your will against people and the environment. Constantly second guessing yourself and not knowing what you actually desire and just not feeling strong will towards something. Dislike competition but desiring control and perfection. Prone to avoidance. Dislike towards social hierarchies. Seeing all people as equals but wanting everyone to be different yet unique. Gaining strong confidence when feeling betrayed or getting angry. Enjoying to be laid back and gaining reassurance from others but refusal to be a follower. Very individualistic. Disliking confidence and assertion in others but personally needing and lacking it. Preferring if others deal with will instead of you.

Physic:

Being disgusted and alienated from the real physical world because it seems underwhelming and inferior to your internal imagination. Caring a lot about aesthetics, decorating, food, comfort and other sensory pleasant stuff. Being very picky about food because you know in great detail what you like and why. Considering the aesthetics part of your identity. Hate using energy in the external world and maintenance but enjoying a low effort routine and safety.

Logic:

Being confident on your own ability to make sense out of things. Caring a lot about logical consistency through hypothetical and relative frameworks. Enjoying debating and involving other people into logical discussions. Enjoying to explore perspectives and play devil's advocate but still preferring to find the truth that makes sense to you and you can verify it. You make protocols and rules in order to solve indecision. You dislike social structure and discussions about productivity.

Emotion:

Being confident and perceptive to what you feel and why. You have a strong and emotional inner world but you're very detached from other people and the environment. You can also be sensitive to toxicity in the environment and can easily take offense. You are scared of how people will react towards you emotionally. Feeling uncomfortable to express yourself but enjoying talking about it through logic. You care about emotional validation and people who aren't too expressive but very polite and nurturing.

Is this an ELVF?

I see VFEL associated with gut types, but I wonder if SO or SX 6 would match.

I’m curious

What is your biggest fear?

I would say that my greatest fear is being all alone, of being nothing, of being of no use and of not being seen as I would like by others. I am also paradoxically afraid of my own anxiety.

What is your greatest desire?

To have power, to be admired and appreciated for my efforts but also to be seen as extraordinary, heroic and special.

What are you best at?

I would say that I am very good at understanding people, putting myself in their place, making a good impression on them. It was never particularly complicated except in periods of depression when I could be unpleasant for no reason. I often think about it afterwards but more for what I potentially lost than what I did and I'm a little ashamed of it.

How do you see yourself now?

I see myself as someone who made a lot of mistakes that cost him dearly but who evolved a lot and got what he wanted.

How do you see yourself in 5 years?

I see myself studying, having fun, having lots of friends and a girlfriend who loves me.

How do you express yourself?

I pay attention to how I express my emotions, I decide how to do it and why, I don't always find it necessary but I like doing it with my friends, I also really like simulating emotions and facial expressions. I really like humor and good atmospheres.

How do you feel about people close to you?

I like them, I get along well with them. I point out to my father that he is too direct with others and that my sister is aesthetically too demanding and too susceptible to criticism. My mother is also very emotional which I respect.

What do you think of foreigners? :

I don't have much to say, just that I don't like it when they don't smile when saying hello. I smile at them a lot but if I see that it doesn't matter I stop.

How do you make your decisions?

Based on what's useful, fun, or what other people will think. I want to have as much support and fun as possible.

How do you solve logical problems?

By deductive logic. I eliminate everything that is improbable and what remains, however improbable, is the truth.

How do you manage your emotions?

I'm pretty calm except when I can't do something which annoys me. I repress my anxiety a lot which sometimes makes me feel sick.

What moves you in life? What are you looking for?

A goal, again and again a goal. I want to change the world, make it better, fight for an ideal, be special and admirable. I also want to have fun doing it. I love intellectual stimulation.

What do you plan to accomplish in your life?

Big things. Arrest bad people and get close to powerful people to have power. Give people much more freedom and stop the contempt.

How do you want others to see you?

I want them to see me as intelligent, admirable, good and exceptional.

Describe how you experience these emotions: anger, shame and fear?

Anger. I repress it a lot, I don't particularly show it. Either I cry or I don't show anything and just smile to hide cold anger. I once coldly threatened someone.

Shame. I feel ashamed when others are embarrassed, otherwise I don't think I've ever been ashamed of any of my actions. I try as much as possible to be honest about my true motivations for something, I have always found it funny when people rationalize their actions and lie to themselves but I don't tell them.

Anxiety. The emotion to which I feel most connected since my childhood. I have always been afraid of not being liked, of not knowing how to improvise, of lacking skills, of knowledge, of knowing how to talk to people even though I am good at it, the fear of missing opportunities, of having missed something.

What is beauty? What is love?

Authenticity, good manners, knowing how to love people.

What are your most important values?

That power must be shared equitably and fairly.

Do you have any spiritual or religious beliefs? Why do you have (or don’t you have) these beliefs?

I am a deist. I believe in a being who surpasses us all and who looks at us and as I said I have always felt invested with a kind of mission, I admit that it is also an excuse to be able to have the admiration of others and to be exceptional.

What is your opinion on war and the armed forces? What does power mean to you?

I think they should be given the power to execute the most dangerous criminals, murderers of innocent people, pedophiles, etc. Wars have been happening since the dawn of time and no one can change that. They fight for power, for their pathetic egos and sometimes out of simple bloodlust or contempt for a type of individual. Power is an exciting thing when you have it, it can show itself in various ways. I think that society must benefit from this power and my talents.

What topics have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? For what ?

Society and hatred. This is a topic that comes up again and again for one reason or another.

Are you interested in topics related to health and medicine? Are you paying attention to your body?

Not really, I only care about being well perceived.

How do you feel about daily household chores?

I don't like them but when it's dirty it smells bad and I don't want to be frowned upon.

Books or films that you liked? Read/seen recently or not? What made you cry? What made you smile? For what ?

I really liked John Wick for their action scenes and the Daredevil series for its dark themes and understandable motivations.

Where do you feel harmony with the environment / a sense of belonging?

In all honesty I miss it a lot.

Assessment and behavior?

I would say I'm social but solitary, I'm not particularly shy. I like interacting with others, laughing with them, understanding them, asking them questions.

What do others think are your weak points?

Stubborn.

What do you dislike about yourself?

I am stubborn and anxious.

What do people think are your strengths?

I am charismatic, adaptable, flexible, far from rigid and I do not judge.

What do you like about yourself?

I get along with most people.

In what areas of your life would you like help?

I just wish I had more encouragement, that's all.

Have you ever felt like you're stuck in a routine? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to this situation.

No, never I always felt like every day was different. That's the beauty of life.

What do you think about romance/sex?

I find it charming and exciting. I would love to have a partner.

What qualities do you look for in a partner?

Listening, kindness and understanding.

If you were raising a child, what would be your biggest concerns, what steps would you take and why?

I would like my child to have a better childhood than mine and for that I would simply ask him how he would describe his emotions during the day so that I can then adapt to them.

A friend makes a statement that contradicts your current beliefs. What are your reactions, internal and external?

I don't pay attention and pretend to agree. I also try to understand his point of view and not judge him.

Describe your relationship with the company.

I find it incredibly unfair and dismissive of certain groups of people because they are different. I would like to change that especially since the majority of them do it involuntarily except in a few cases.

How do you view humanity as a whole? What do you think is a widespread social problem? Name one.

Cowardly, selfish, manipulative, naive and in denial. The most common problem is seeing ourselves in others, thinking that they have a similar point of view to ours, this is not the case. To talk to someone and convince them, you have to put yourself in their shoes.

How would you describe your upbringing? Was there anything religious or a particular influence? How did you react to it?

I was quite calm with my parents despite their arguments because of my father's impulsive nature. I never had a religious education but for several years I have felt invested with a mission, perhaps by a divinity or something spiritual, I don't know if it's real either but I feel it like that.

What do you do for work or what career do you have? Do you like it? Are you proud of it?

I am currently at the end of middle school. I'm quite proud of my accomplishments, I have friends who love me, a close-knit family, I finally feel like myself. I think I'm quite proud yes.

If you spent a weekend alone, how would you feel? Alone ? GOOD ?

I would handle it well I think as I would be in my head or doing sport, although I would probably be a bit bored with no one to chat with.

What activities do you prefer? Do you like sports or something else?

I really like writing stories, watching the facial expressions of actors in films and series. I like badminton and athletics. Before I didn't like group sport, now I love it. I don't like watching sport, I prefer to play it. I don't like football and basketball.

How curious are you? Do you have more ideas than you can realize? What are your curiosities? What are your ideas? Are they environmental or conceptual? Could you explain better?

I love concepts centered on human beings, on psychology, on emotions. I have lots of ideas, those that I consider realistic enough, I execute them, the others, I write them. My ideas are quite conceptual I would say, nothing particularly concrete. I wish I was better at explaining but according to others I am, I guess that's the case.

Would you like to take a management position? Do you think you would be able to do it? What would be your leadership style?

Yes, I would really like to lead a team, I think I would be capable of it. I would be quite playful with them and I would tell them to take their time but internally I would be wary because I don't trust easily.

Are you coordinated? Why do you have this feeling or lack of empathy? Do you like working with your hands in any way? Describe your activity.

I never minded being ordered around but I admit I never particularly liked the rules because I broke them when my goals didn't allow me to follow them but I respect order and I think it's necessary but a little chaos doesn't hurt anyone, most of the time anyway.

Are you an artistic person? If so, describe your art. If you are not particularly artistic but appreciate art, describe the art forms you enjoy. Explain your answer.

I don't care much about paintings and paintings but I really like writing which is for me a very great and difficult art. I would say that I am artistic in the sense that I write a lot, I love writing and imagining. For paintings or drawing I'm very bad though.

What is your opinion on the past, present and future? How do you approach them?

I think it's good to focus on the present but the future is just as important because we have to know how to create a future where we will be peaceful and we can be happy. I don't think we should focus too much on the present, what's done is done even if I tend to think a lot about the past all the same but more out of nostalgia than guilt.

How do you react when other people ask you for help with something (anything)? If you decide to help them, why are you doing it?

I help him most of the time because I want to be seen well by this person but I will not help him if it is bad and it could reach the ears of others, in these cases I find an excuse not to do it.

Do you need logical consistency in your life?

I like to understand and know why this or that thing happened so I would say a little. I don't really know if I need it all the time though.

How important is efficiency and productivity to you?

This is what matters most when you have important goals.

Do you control others, even indirectly? How and why do you do it?

I would say that I do it indirectly by behaving the way he would want me to behave in order to have a good reputation and to gain praise.

What are your hobbies? Why do you like them?

I like writing because it allows us to imagine and think in advance, I also like reading about the human's mind because ain because it’s fun and useful.

What is your learning style? Which learning environments do you find most difficult?

I learn by making cards that explain something as simply as possible so that I understand. I don’t think I have a learning environment that particularly bothers me.

Why do you enjoy/struggle with these learning styles? Do you prefer lessons that appeal to memorization, logic, creativity or your physical sense?

I like history, English and French lessons but I also really like math because it makes you think.

Are you good at strategizing? Do you easily break down projects into manageable tasks? Or do you tend to improvise as you go along?

I would say that I am good at planning plans because it can be spread over months sometimes I even have a specific plan for years that is in progress. I don't mind improvising if in the end something doesn't appeal to me, but I won't give up if it's already too late. I'm stubborn.

What are your aspirations in life, professionally and personally?

Have lots of friends, influence, power and a girlfriend.

What are the highlights of your life like?

I am particularly euphoric, joyful and smiling.

How are the difficult times in your life going?

I'm depressed, lonely and moody.

Are you attached to reality? Do you dream often or are you attentive to your surroundings? If you dream, are you aware of what is happening around you?

I would say that I am attached to reality when I interact with others, I like to daydream but it is rare that I am detached from what I see although I miss a lot of details due to sheer lack of attention or boredom.

Imagine yourself alone in an empty room, with nothing to do and no one to talk to. What are you thinking about?

I think about life, about society, about my childhood, about what brought me here and now.

How long does it take you to make an important decision? Do you change your mind after taking it?

I pick it up pretty quickly, I generally don't come back to it unless the situation requires it.

How long does it take you to process your emotions? How important are emotions in your life?

I know them almost immediately, I ignore them if they make me look bad or I express them to my friends if it's an internal suffering.

Have you ever agreed with others just to please them and keep the conversation going? How often ? For what ?

Most of the time, but sometimes I get angry with them and unintentionally try to make them feel guilty.

Do you often break the rules?

It happens to me if I find something unfair.

Do you think authority needs to be questioned or does it know better? If you break the rules, why?

I think the current authority should be questioned because of the disregard for citizens, justice and equality. I want to destroy this society to rebuild it in a fairer way and to be appreciated for it.

I've been reading the Syntax of Love, and in it ELFV is described as having a "tendency towards masochism," yet sx7 is widely considered an archetype of ELFV.

What I'm struggling to reconcile is that Enneagram 7 is generally characterized by an avoidance of pain and deprivation. How is ELFV's masochism understood in relation to sx7?

Okay first of all to be clear, I’m still trying to figure out if I’m 3E or 3V. I’m aware that they’re both very different but I kinda stopped reading SoL midway and I don’t really know what other sources I can rely on. As far as I’m aware 3V kind of just affects all of your positions bu in a way making you insecure right? But that doesn’t sound like me at all. (Just to clarify, I’m a FLVE or FLEV) I’m pretty confident in most things so I’m not really sure which one I am. And yes I also know that insecurity it not the only aspect when it comes to 3V, I feel like I could just see both Emotion and Will within my 3rd and 4th position (I don’t really think both will and emotions are my priority) which I think is the main reason why I’m confused? Maybe I just need to read about them again, so could someone send me a link for this or simply tell me about 3V/4V and 3E/4E?