u/Fuzznation2012

People often criticize heroes for being too much like paragons, but then when a piece of media shows them having human flaws or even just acting like a human would in the moment, they get angry and pissy. I'll use Wonder Woman and Superman in young justice as examples as they seem to be the two who I've seen the most complaints about when it comes to the topic.

In season 1, Wonder Woman was criticized by fans for getting angry at Batman for knowing Captain Marvel was a kid without telling anyone, which also made her air out her displeasure with batman bringing robin into the world of crime fighting at the age of nine in front of the whole league. As a kid I did see it as a mic drop moment for Batman when he made that clever comeback, but as an adult I begone to see things differently. If your familiar with Wonder Woman's history, the one thing she values most is TRUST AND TRANSPERANCY and she can justifiably get mad when she feels that trust is broken. In the tower of babel storyline she voted batman out of the league because she could no longer trust him after his contingency plan, In Justice League the animated series she wanted Hawkgirl out of the league after finding out she had been a spy the whole time. There other moments but the scene in Young Justice lines up pretty well with how she's been written over the years, and even then she wasn't even mad that Billy was a kid but the fact that he didn't tell anyone about it, and knowing batman knew about it only lines up with the other grievances she has with him as trust and honesty are things she values most. Batman is notorious for constantly keeping secrets from the league , even things that they have the right to know (Not about himself, just things that do need to be brought up with the league).

With Superman, people where angry that supes didn't immediately accept Superboy as a son or brother or whatever but instead Supes was justifiably uncomfortable being around someone who was the result of having his DNA stolen and experimented with, and worse, mixed with the DNA of his greatest foe. I bet if superman were a woman people would have found his behavior around conner understandable as supes was essentially violated. Hell it's not like he told conner to go fuck himself or something, he was just not ready to deal with him at that time as he was still trying process everything. Not to mention he is justifiably jaded after years of dealing with Luthor. This one confuses me as certain internet folks criticize Superman for being a Boy Scout, then get angry when he doesn't act like the boy scout they've been told he is.

Both these characters portrayed very Human emotions, and honestly I know many us would have acted way worse if we were in their shoes. This topic is a pet peeve of mince because people cant make up there minds. Do they want flawed characters or not.

I'm just sitting at home right now waiting for a few friends to come over figured I'd pop on here and share something I've been doing for a while. I used to be part of the more anti-woke crowd circa 2010s before leaving all that in the 2020s. I wasn't a bigot by any means (I myself am a minority) but looking back the reason I was in those spaces was because I was terminally online and spent most of my days arguing with twitter leftists and consuming anti-woke, anti-feminist propaganda. I was a bord teenage and I do regret circling those spaces once I realized how malicious they were.

I wanted to make this post because I feel many often look at the more extreme version of these groups as the whole but often miss the more insidious nature of anti-woke subreddits. The subreddit I frequented were of course kotakuinaction and mauler(I would have gone with critical drinker but that sub is so batshit insane I stop going there for my own mental health). One of the reasons I was sucked into the anti-woke sphere in my teens was because of the arguments I would get into with users on tumblr and twitter. There was this trend where people (mainly certain journalist and internet users) would shit on anything I enjoyed that they personally didn't like and say it was problematic to enjoy it, which led to fear that said thing would change, not because the writer wanted to please these woke users but because said woke users where getting into the industry and where now writing the reboots of these properties I loved and changing them to fit their current standards and calling anyone who didn't like it a bigot, and some of that did happen.

Of course all what I thought back then is nonsense now but that is how many like me at the time felt and why they were so susceptible into joining gamergate. Because outside of the anti-woke propaganda, there are a large vast of young people go to media as an escape and that don't know how to handle the change in said media well. So they may go looking for answers to learn, only to end up with insults, slander and name calling from a minority of online leftists. I believe many aren't really bigots but also do not understand how ingrained bigotry is rooted in our society, so it takes time for them to change their ways of thinking. It Doesn't help that years of euro-centric beauty standards and heteronormative writing in media makes it hard for them to see others as the norm. One thing I notice on these subreddits is that a movie could have the biggest anti-capitalist, anti-trump messages ever and they would still love it, but if there is a black person in it, its woke. If there is a gay person in it, its woke, if a woman has a lead role in an action story, its woke. The exceptions being movies from their childhood, young white women and or east-Asian women(sorry I meant South Korean and Japanese women, China doesn't count to them) that fits there personal beauty standards (or doesn't say anything perceived as feminist). The far-right took their general ignorance and turned it into full blown bigotry. However, That does not absolve them from criticism and they do deserve smackdowns nor do you owe them forgiveness.

I also understand that most of the aggression from those online leftists spaces from the past came from years of trying to talk to these folks in good faith, only to have their good faith weaponized against them. This also includes years of dealing with racism, homophobia, or simple wanting to make friends and relationships only to be met with apathy or indifference from the people you admire because of who you are. As for solution for these users on these subreddits? ITs not my or your concern, the only thing for them is to get offline and touch grass, but in this current climate I know to easier said than done.

Movies premise from the daily wire website.

"When radical Islamic terrorists hijack a liberal college's pro-Palestine encampment to enforce barbaric Sharia law on students and execute infidels in a makeshift caliphate, a ragtag band of red-blooded students, a security guard tired of 'Uncle Tom' smears, and a Delta Force vet must arm up to save their clueless peers and keep America from surrendering to the enemy on its own soil."

I normally get a cash assistance deposit twice every month, but now the HRA website is saying I'm not getting my usual cash deposit in the next two days and my rent assistance deposit is only $8, I usually get $107.

This is worrying me because I'm behind my rent due to being off work(I work as a Sub teacher and school is closed for the summer). My case isn't closed, it is still active. and I haven't got any letter or e-notice saying why I'm not getting my usual deposit.

I will add my case was closed then opened again in February, I got CA but no snap, but after a fair hearing I got my snap back for all the months I didn't get it, it me not getting my second deposit related to this?

I want to make one thing clear, this not about the movie or the main character's action. I'm not pulling an alex meyers were I defend the main character and claim he did nothing wrong. He is a villain. The point of this post is about the discourse surrounding the movie itself.

Movies like Obsession are part of a growing trend where male loneliness is automatically framed as dangerous, creepy, or evil. The issue isn’t just the villain himself. The issue is the message people attach to regular men watching it.

The internet keeps acting like any socially awkward or emotionally desperate man is one bad day away from becoming a psychopath. That’s where the misandry comes in. Male vulnerability is constantly rewritten as a threat instead of a human problem.

If a woman in a movie is obsessive, emotional, clingy, or unstable, people usually romanticize it or call it “complex.” But when a male character struggles with rejection or loneliness, suddenly everybody starts throwing around words like “incel,” “predator,” and “future abuser.”

That double standard is exactly why a lot of men are irritated with this movie discourse. It feels less like people are criticizing toxic behavior and more like they are mocking male emotional weakness itself.

And the worst part is that the internet now treats awkwardness like a moral crime. A man can literally just be lonely, isolated, inexperienced with women, and socially weird, and people immediately start psychoanalyzing him as dangerous.

That creates paranoia around normal male behavior. Men start feeling like they have to censor their emotions or hide their loneliness because society already assumes the worst about them.

I also think these conversations erase the reality that many men are emotionally neglected in real life. A lot of men grow up without support systems, without emotional guidance, and without people who genuinely care about their mental health. But instead of compassion, they get jokes and insults.

And no, before somebody twists my words, I’m not defending obsession, stalking, or controlling behavior. Obviously those things are wrong. My issue is with how quickly people expand those labels onto regular male struggles.

The movie itself is not the problem. The online reaction is the bigger issue. Social media turned the film into another excuse to collectively dunk on lonely men.

You can already see it in the memes. People aren’t separating dangerous men from awkward men anymore. Everything gets merged together into one giant “incel” stereotype.

That type of rhetoric eventually creates social alienation. When men feel constantly demonized for normal emotions, they either emotionally shut down or become resentful. Neither outcome is healthy for society.

Ironically, the same people claiming to care about mental health often show zero empathy once the struggling person is male. That contradiction is why so many men reject these conversations completely.

At the end of the day, Obsession could have been a nuanced discussion about loneliness, boundaries, selfishness and emotional instability. Instead, a lot of the discourse around it just became another round of “men bad” commentary disguised as social analysis.