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Juan hololive recently released his own tierlist regrading who is the best predator in Hololive. while I have been a fan fo Juan for a long time, his takes here are kinda controversial to say the least. while there are some points I agree with there are some I cannot so I made this post as a counter argument to Juan and launch a discussion regarding Juan takes.

lets start with the tierlist.As you can see from the second image is Juan Tierlist I screenshot from the video and it sucks ass. This text post would be structured by order from most ranking I agree with to most problematic. so let's start with the least controversial.

1: Liz and ceci in average

I really have nothing to say here. This is the best spot to put both of them I have no objections. Liz and ceci are not as active as some holomems but they have quite good records against other holomems like Liz 17-8 over nerissa and ceci 9279-56 over Gigi are high feats but due to having only these to work with I understand their placements.

2: kronii in BUMASS

there is nothing to say here

3: Kiara is the GOAT tier

well this is a point that most of you don't agree with. Kiara has been quite inactive over the past few months while she did gain some victims in the Maldives and Korea other than that that's really about it while some whole members especially Gigi have been completely dominating the other girls in hololive Kiara has yet to make any big movements recently or has fumble hard like getting seduce with gigi.

and sure Kiara has been the most dominant in predator rankings almost for 5 years from 2020 to 2025 Kiara just doesn't have enough feats or victims to match the other holomems as the landscape has become much more competitive compared to those few years with the rise of strong molesters like nerissa and Gigi. Kiara was part of the goat debate but now it seems like the Phoenix is losing her flame. Honestly I would put at the top of Pro 🍇ist

4: Cali and shiori at pro 🍇.

I would put shiori first then Cali. Cali might have the longevity but shiori has the higher feats and molest rates compared to Cali. For instance shiori has a winning matchup with nerissa Gigi and Liz while cali really doesn't have much besides a winning rate against Kiara while having losing matchups with Gigi, shiori and nerissa. but Cali is still above average

5: nerissa in they ain't fucking my ass tier

okay so some of you guys will not agree with me but I believe nerissa is overated as hell. sure she married every holomem but nerissa always positioned self as the submissive one. getting her ass beaten, played or pregenated with But nerissa is not as low as this. nerissa has a lot of amazing feats like managing to seduce Cali and Liz while dominating other holomems like laplus so putting her near bum level is an over exaggeration. I would put nerissa at the lowest end of pro🍇 or the highest in average.

6: fuwawa in they ain't fucking my ass tier

okay this placements pisses me off.while being pretty quiet don't let it be a sign of weakness. Fuwawa is no joke. she has a strong dominant side and has been dominating mococo non stop. everytime she is shown weakness. she fully exploit it and takes full control. fuwawa is in definition a Dommy oneesan she just does not show it. this is often overlooked in fuwawa since she does not how this side of her. but once she did you going to have a rough time. fuwawa deserves to be in pro level at the minimum.

7. Raora

here is the truth: this is such a bullshit placement. well sure she has the least amount of whole member matchup she is considered wildly considered underrated when the community Aurora has to basically is by all accounts a Dommy mommy. she has a whole basement filed with chatinos. constantly fuck. break and skinned them while cuckolding their jetpacks Infront of them. she is by all accounts the definition of a pro 🍇 and she should be at least high pro 🍇 tier.

8. Gigi in bum tier

I have to say this Gigi deserves to be goat debate. this is coming from someone who has slandered her , call her a bum but this past few months as really open my eyes on how much potential she has. but the fact that Juan put Gigi at bum tier at the first 2 mins of the video is just infuriating.Gigi has a winning match up on everyone accept ceci, shiori and raora and has major wins on everyone besides the 3 mention so she should be at minimum pro tier right? well yes but to Juan. but there is some sense to it. for those who don't know Gigi actually tired to 🍇 Juan during riptide 2026 but she manage to fumble it and got rekt by Juan so this is a clear sign of survivorship bias. Gigi has a major fumbles rate the highest among every holomem so it makes sense why Juan would call her a bum. he hast felt the full power of Gigi. if Gigi and Juan had a 1v1 Gigi would win no doubt. Gigi would easily be in pro or even goat level

that's all for today I know I rant a lot but this is just something I need to get off my back. I thank you for taking the time to read this. and I hope you get something out of this cause currently it's 1 am for me as of I am writing and I got a big exam tmr so yeah I will end it here. thank you for reading this schizo rant

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