The Ben vs. Inadu Plot Hole: The Writers Absolutely Forgot About Historical Geography
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The Ben vs. Inadu Plot Hole: The Writers Absolutely Forgot About Historical Geography

I was recently thinking about the origin of magic in the TVDU, and I realized that Season 4 of Legaciescreated one of the biggest, most undeniable plot holes in the entire franchise regarding Inadu (The Hollow) from The Originals.
Let’s look at the official timeline established by the writers:
The Peopling of the Americas: In the real world, the ancestors of Native Americans crossed into the New World somewhere between 23,000 and 14,000 years ago. After that, they were completely isolated from Eurasia for millennia.
Ben’s Gift (3000 BC): In Legacies, we learn that Ben (Prometheus) stole the magic from the Gods and gifted it to a specific village near the Caucasus Mountains around 3000 BC. This means magic was a localized, finite gift that originated in the Old World only about 5,000 years ago.
Inadu’s Tribe (500 AD): In The Originals Season 4, it is explicitly stated that Inadu was born into a powerful, prosperous tribe of Native American witches in 500 AD.
So here is the massive logical paradox: How on earth did Native Americans become witches if they were already isolated in the New World thousands of years BEFORE Ben even gave magic to humans in Europe/Asia?
By the time Ben handed out magic on the Caucasus, the ancestors of Inadu’s tribe had been living in North America for at least 10,000 years without any contact with the Old World. They couldn’t have just walked over to Ben’s village to grab some magic!
When the writers created Inadu in 2017, they treated magic as a natural, global force of the Earth. But when they wrote Ben’s backstory in 2022, they completely forgot to check the historical geography of their own universe.
Unless we headcanon that a bunch of ancient Eurasian witches pulled off a secret transatlantic voyage in 2000 BC to mingle with Native American tribes, this is just a massive, lazy writing oversight.
What are your thoughts? Do you try to explain this with some wild lore theories, or do we just accept that Julie Plec and the writers’ room failed history class?

u/Good_Bullfrog742 — 4 days ago

What would happen if Dahlia had a son ?

I always thought about Original heretics and if I had written a fanfic about him I would have choose someone who is close to Esther and Mikaelson.
And that idea brought me to Dahlia.
Imagine Dahlia getting pregnant from Gemini Coven Leader in 970-71. A child would be born in 971 .
He’s Dahlia’s son ,first born son meaning he inherits that devastating power which is capable of destroying villages.But if the child inherits the siphoner genes. So he must be both empty and full of magic.Let’s name him Kael. Kael would possess his own raw power of a firstborn and siphoning ability like Kai when he merged with Luke.
Dahlia would despise him for being an abomination
If she links herself to him to draw power from him like with Freya ,he would simply siphon off the link between them. Dahlia would isolate him from Freya ,they wouldn’t know about each other’s existence. At the age of 15 Dahlia kicks him out.
He starts his own life without any help or experience only thing he knows is Dahlia’s spell books and magic.He starts to practice dark and sacrificial magic to draw power from deaths.he spends his life in Norway fighting with Covens who are hating him for dark magic and massacres. At the age of 30 he performs a spell which allows him to find his relatives so he finds his aunt Esther and Gemini Coven. But he chooses to go to Esther because her magic seems to him more like his own.He comes to Mystic Falls 3 days before Esther turns her children into OGs. After Henrik’s death at the night he comes to her and by using magic shows her his history.
Esther begs him to help her to find a way to protect her children. Kael becomes co-author of vampirism and becomes the first vampire.He erases Esther’s memories about his existence and runs away from Mystic Falls

u/Good_Bullfrog742 — 28 days ago
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Male Pre-Born

I've always wondered if there could be abominations like Alia Atreides? The fact is that men do not tolerate spice agony, so if a pregnant woman drinks the water of life, the male foetus will die, but Alia survived as a foetus, considering that she also did not know how to turn poison into a drug, that is, her mother Jessica acted as a filter. In our case, if the same thing happens to Alia, will the male foetus survive?

And also the water of life is deadly for men, but spice melange is not deadly, that is, if a mother sits on a spice diet while pregnant with a male foetus, then the child must survive and become pre-born

The question is whether there can be pre-born men except for Paul's son, Leto II because he inherited the genes of Kvisatz Haderach

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u/Good_Bullfrog742 — 2 months ago

Male pre-borns

I have always wondered if there could be a male Pre-born (an abomination) other than Leto II, since he possesses the genes of the Kwisatz Haderach.

I mean, if the Bene Gesserit sister of a pregnant boy takes the Water of Life and neutralizes the poison, turning it into a drug to expand consciousness. But as we know, the Water of Life kills every man who is not the Kwisatz Haderach. However, the mother will become a filter that neutralizes the poison, right?

But if the child still does not survive in this case, will he survive if the mother goes on a spice diet, like Chani did? Her children survived, but I don't know if they survived simply because they inherited the Kwisatz Haderach genes.

My question is: would a male fetus survive and become an pre-born(abomination) without the genes of the Kwisatz Haderach? And if he will survive, by which way (Water of Life or spice diet)?

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u/Good_Bullfrog742 — 3 months ago
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What will happen if we put The Hollow’s spirit into Original Heretic?

I always thought abt how siphoning would work on Inadu
The OG’s body is tolerable to contain all 4 pieces of The Hollow and adding to it siphoning ability is it possible to supress her soul by siphoning her magic
Cuz Hope was able to use Inadu’s powers in season 5
Meaning witches are able to use Inadu’s power but their body would die from infection
So if OGs’ bodies are so durable combined with siphoning ability and magical abilities would they become The Hollow’s nightmare or ender?

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u/Good_Bullfrog742 — 2 months ago