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Damon taking Elena for granted

So I’m at the end of season 5. I have watched the whole thing but I was a teenager and now I’m an adult with very different opinions than my teenage self.

I’m not a Delena lover and the main reason is because Damon wanted Elena from the start and he finally gets her and is constantly breaking up with her and icing her out because they don’t work blah blah blah.

So why be with her in the first place?

He’s known her for a few years now and knew that he’s not good for her get he still pursued her and now he has her he’s being so inconsistent whilst Elena is left chasing after him.

Like if you’ve wanted this girl for years and you finally get her you do everything you can to just be with her and be happy.

Stefan and Elena never had those problems it was pretty much smooth sailing, they were ready for each other and good for each other so this is why Delena makes no sense for me. I think it should have been a moment of passion but then Elena should have found her way back to Stefan. That’s what makes sense to me. Delena just doesn’t seem right.

Let me know what you think

EDIT:
I’ve just remembered the doppelgänger prophecy which is just more proof that Delena should not have worked. It was always supposed to be Stefan and Elena the universe said so.

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u/Drownedgluten11 — 2 hours ago

Am I the only one confused when ppl say TO is better than TVD

I have watched both TVD and TO. I am not saying the originals is bad but compared to TVD it honestly doesn’t come close for me at all. Even the originals storyline in TVD is better than any storyline in the originals. It took me a while to even get through TO because it was bland. My favorite storyline was when Esther, kol, and fine were in other bodies and maybe the first sire lines aswell. I think TO was boring cuz they were over 1000 years and their always and forever and always choosing family made them unbearable. I wish we saw more of a lavish lifestyle aswell and more through the ages.

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u/Uwanttobeme-37 — 6 hours ago
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Does the Original's soul need to die for the sireline to die?

So in tvd when Alaric killed Klaus Klaus's soul was saved by Bonnie and placed in Tyler to save the sireline. However when the Hollow killed Elijah Elijah's sireline died despite his soul being saved by Freya and placed in a pendant. Plothole or do you think it's something about Elijah's soul being damaged?

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u/GuiltyEmergency6364 — 7 hours ago

major plot hole in S5

I was rewatching TVD and was on the Silas story arc, when I noticed this one major plot hole that I haven’t seen anyone else talk about.

A lot of supernatural characters passed away and came back up until season 5, like Alaric, Lexi(temporarily), Jeremy. But none of them seemed to mention that they passed through an “anchor” or that they saw a woman (Amara) while passing onto the other side.

After the Silas arc we saw how Tessa (Qetsiyah) talked to Bonnie and explained to her how being an anchor to the other side works, and also saw how Katherine interacted with her before trying to pass on to the other side. So obviously the de*d person trying to pass on can talk to or AT LEAST see the anchor before they touch her.

How come Alaric, Lexi, Jeremy etc never mentioned Amara when they were temporarily back and knew the whole thing that was going on? If anything they would’ve mentioned it in a casual conversation how they had to pass through this one girl who was another doppelgänger like Elena or Katherine?

This just isn’t making sense to me. This is such a major detail I don’t get how the writers seemed to miss.

u/pjm130 — 10 hours ago

Let's do something interesting! Tell me y'all's favourite m|m or f|f pairings/ships/headcanons in TVD. Rare pairs included! 😁

If the show doesn't have LGBTQ+ relationships, than we'll just make some ourselves ok? 🤭 Also don't be worried for replies like 'this doesn't make sense' or 'you ship anything' ignore them. Just tell me your favourite ships/rare pairs (characters who never even interacted but you think would fit well together) I don't care how UNHINGED they are, if you like them than that's all that matters :)

Here are some of my favourites :

  1. Klaus and Stefan - My NUMBER 1 favourite ship. Klaus was so obsessed with Stefan he literally waited for decades to meet him again so he can have him by his side again I mean come on 💀 I would take them over Klaroline and Steroline any day.

  2. Damon and Elijah - Ok listen 💀 I just like the idea of both Damon and Stefan having themselves a Mikaelson boyfriend 💀 Plus I'm someone who GENUINELY wanted Damon to be canonically bisexual and I just think they look sexy together 😭

  3. Elena and Rebekah - They're my biggest 'hear me out' ship ever 😭 I kinda wanted to see Elena with a girl even if it's for short term. They would make an interesting enemies to lovers plus Rebekah is canonically bisexual. The writers never gave them a chance to even be close friends which I think was the biggest missed opportunity!

  4. Bonnie and Nora - If there's a pairing I genuinely wanted canon, it was them. I would just love to see Bonnie in a relationship with a woman (specifically a witch or a heretic) and they were adorable! Another wasted opportunity imo.

I'm excited af to know your favourite ships :)

u/Ok-Permission-3014 — 15 hours ago

The Sleeping Beauty Spell was Kind of Silly

When they say goodbye to Elena at the end of season 6, they are all compelling themselves into her consciousness.

So why wasn’t it canonically an option to just talk to her everyday that way? I know logistically it was because Nina was leaving, but that’s why the sleeping beauty spell is silly because there was a way for Elena to be in everybody’s lives.

Yeah it’s inconvenient but Damon could’ve still been with her in some shape or form. I know they set up that they had to lock her in the crypt with a spell to protect her from vampires wanting the cure, but the cure and the five/silas were a secret to nearly every vampire, so why would it be suddenly public knowledge after being off the table.

In some ways, I do like the path they took because it gave an end goal for Damon to take the cure at the end of the series, but I think if I were to rewrite it, I’d have Kai lock her in a prison world and then the prison world goes blip after he turns himself into a heretic.

Then the rest of the series is trying to get her back but they get distracted by the heretics, sirens, devil, etc.

Or i’d film scenes of Nina before she left reacting to the cast and just write in a reason for her to stay silent when they all talk to her every 5 episodes or so.

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u/nic_nack1995 — 9 hours ago

What do you think of this whole situation that led to Abby Bennett being turned into a vampire?

This was in Season 3 when Elena's life was on the line. And because of that, Stefan and Damon betrayed Bonnie; Stefan distracted Bonnie while Damon turned Abby into a vampire. They did that so the Mikaelsons can stay alive and not worry about killing Elena before dying.

I always hated that moment because Bonnie couldn't catch a break. However, blaming Elena for this mess never made sense to me. I think this is one of the stupidest situations regardless. 🙄

What do you think of the situation as a whole?

u/maeeeeeeev — 16 hours ago

Alaric’s background?

Damon had Sheriff Forbes run a background check on Alaric and she said it came up clean. But Meredith Fell does a background check when Alaric is being possessed by the ring and she finds all this stuff. Am i missing something? or is this another plot hole lol.

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u/peachiipinkk — 14 hours ago

Are there any major plot issues?

Possibly a stupid question for a 7-season series but is there any major plot issues that caught you attention during your initial watch or rewatch.

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u/AboveAverage33 — 21 hours ago

5 Strongest Vampires In TVDU? Thoughts?

These are the top 5 vampires in TVDU.... ANY Disagreements OR ANYONE I FORGOT?? Let me know in the comments.

u/Ill-Swan3949 — 1 day ago

Season Four should’ve been the ending.

With the big build up of Silas throughout the fourth season, I believe it should’ve been the ending to the show or at-least play a big part in an explosive way next season instead of Silas just being a “doppelgänger” of sorts. The twist in the season finale was a “wtf” but the execution felt like Paul Wesley just wanted to do something fun for once nothing with any impact.

Season Four was the last season that had major impact on anything.

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u/AboveAverage33 — 21 hours ago

Elena and Damon don't fit as end game imo.

I can see Elena being with Damon like because of the sire bond, or when she turned her humanity off, but it just doesn't make sense when you REALLY think about it. He was so evil. Look what he did to Caroline, to Jeremy, to Lexi. Killing Jeremy just because Elena rejected him is straight up ABUSIVE behavior. How could Elena ever forgive that? Yeah sure, he kinda became a sweetheart later on. It still doesn't excuse his behavior. Especially after Elena becomes human again. Plus Damon said he loved being a vampire and that being a human sounded miserable and when you think about it, how did he survive as a human? He was so used to compelling everyone, using violence and anger to get his way, and he was a bit of a lush. People tend to overlook these things because he's "so hot." I could see them having a brief fling, but I think it would have made more sense if Elena got with another human at the end, Damon stayed a vampire, and they went their separate ways but that's just my personal opinion.

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u/Historical-Cat6229 — 1 day ago
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Would Freya be able to reverse Alaric’s Original vampirism in the same way she did Lucien’s?

Esther’s grimoire states that “only the witch who cast the spell can undo it”. However, lore regarding ancestral magic shows that a direct blood relative sharing the same magical signature can bypass this law, IF they possess the power to do so.

In season 3 of the Originals, Freya reverses Lucien’s Upgraded status by stealing power from the ancestral realm. Her blood was used as a binding agent in place of doppelgänger blood. Esther needed the draw from the “entire Bennet bloodline made manifest living and dead” plus a full moon to reverse her immortality spell on her children.

Vincent performed the spell(channeled by the ancestors)by reverse engineering Esther’s spell for Lucien, but instead of using Tatia’s or Elena’s doppelgänger blood they used Freya’s. Freya as a firstborn Mikaelson witch possess a unique, potent mystical resonance. The fact her blood was used as a catalyst means her bloodlines tie to the spell itself. Therefore Freya can logically and canonically reverse the Original spell.

Even though she is undoubtedly powerful, she can’t just waive her hands and snap it. She’s undoing a 1,000 year old spell that has grown in power tied to eternals forces of nature like sun and white oak. That takes a lot of magic.

-Entire dead covens
-Celestial events
-Full power of the ancestral well?

Thoughts and Questions? Anyone?

u/No-Kaleidoscope2859 — 1 day ago

Caroline/Stefan. Cringey?

I'll never forget in the first season when Caroline was really flirty with Stefan and he shut her down and said "it's never going to happen." Ever since then he really kinda stuck by that. Him and Caroline were friends and then in Season 6 she starts letting herself fall for him again and he keeps pushing her away and she seems to get mad at him that he won't reciprocate her feelings. So then he gets to feeling bad and it seems like he tries really hard to force himself to have romantic feelings for her. It just never made sense to me and it's super cringe to watch what seems like a very forced relationship. Am I alone in this?

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u/Historical-Cat6229 — 1 day ago

If you had to picked, what moment or moments of Damon action that you disagree with most? (This is not character bashing, just curious which to you was the worst)

To me he had way too many, but if I had to chose a few, I would say what he did to Caroline, when he killed Jeremy after Elena rejected him or when he killed Aaron because he was upset when Katherine acting like Elena and dump him and how he was killing multiple for revenge.

u/gloomydreamer666 — 1 day ago