How Do You Translate a Fight When The Attack is Done Using Chinese Writing?
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How Do You Translate a Fight When The Attack is Done Using Chinese Writing?

Hi everyone! I am GTea and I translate The Overlord of Puluo on Wuxiaworld. I just thought it would be interesting to share about this translation problem I encountered. You can skip the background info and go straight to how this localization was done. I think this would be interesting if you are learning Mandarin.

Background Info: The novel has like a thousand cultivation paths, but Martial Arts and Literary Cultivation are considered two of the mainstream paths. Literary Cultivation is seen as a respectable, proper path that major families would want their children to follow. I understood why Martial Cultivators were powerful, but it was hard to understand why Literary Cultivators were the preferred path. It turns out Literary Cultivators can literally weaponize written language.

A lot of the Literary Cultivator abilities in this chapter depend on how written Chinese works. In the raws, individual Chinese characters can manifest and attack on their own. They can split into strokes, break apart into smaller character components, or have individual strokes pulled out and used as weapons. The problem is that English words are built completely differently, so translating those mechanics literally would make some of the fights very difficult to follow.

SOLUTION:

After some creative juice, I solved this issue by localizing the wordplay instead. I tried to preserve the original meaning, the four-part structure of the phrases, and which part of each phrase attacked which person. However, the English words don't always correspond one-to-one with the Chinese characters because the two writing systems work very differently.

The Chinese version builds these attacks out of characters, strokes, and character components, so I recreated that idea using words, letters, letter shapes, and compound words in English.

Roughly, this is how I mapped the localization:

  • More strokes or greater visual complexity in a Chinese character = more letters in the English word
  • Individual strokes separating from a character = individual letters breaking away from a word
  • The shape or direction of a Chinese stroke = the shape of an English letter
  • A Chinese character splitting into smaller characters = an English word splitting into smaller words
  • One Chinese character acting independently = one complete English word acting as an attack unit
  • Four Chinese characters in an expression = four independently acting English words
  • Differences in the power of manifested words = capitalization and visual emphasis

For example, when 量 (liang) pulls out a vertical stroke as a weapon or removes a horizontal stroke as a projectile, the English version can have part of a letter separate or change shape instead. The stem of a "Y" can stand in for a 竖, basically a vertical stroke (丨), while another part of a letter can represent a 横, a horizontal stroke (一), or another type of stroke.

The trickiest cases were Chinese characters that could split into smaller components that were also characters themselves.

EXAMPLE: The word tree (树) can be split into three characters -> 木 + 又 + 寸

In English, I localized that as: HOPHORNBEAM -> HOP + HORN + BEAM

This is why "Hophornbeam" was chosen so specifically. I needed a word that could break into several smaller words, just as the Chinese character could break into smaller character components.

Similarly, when one Chinese character acted independently, I used one complete English word as an attack unit. EXAMPLE: STRENGTH could stand in for 力 (li, meaning "strength"), even if the full English phrase was not a word-for-word translation of the Chinese expression.

There were also four-character expressions such as 自不量力 (zi bu liang li), meaning roughly "overestimating one's own strength," and 蚍蜉撼树 (pi fu han shu), referring to someone weak trying to challenge someone far stronger. Because both expressions contain four Chinese characters, I tried to preserve four independently acting units in English as well.

Capitalization was another tool I added specifically for the English version. Chinese does not have uppercase and lowercase letters, so this was not in the raws. I used ALL CAPS as a visual way to show when the Literary Cultivator was putting greater force into a manifested word.

TLDR:

So the Chinese version of Literary Cultivator attacks uses characters, strokes, and character components, while the English version uses words, letters, letter shapes, capitalization, and compound words to recreate the same kind of effect.

This definitely required a bit of creative juice. It was one of those cases where I was not just translating the meaning, but to rebuild the mechanics of the original writing system in English. I was proud of the result, so I thought I would share it with anyone who's interested to learn about localization.

Link to the chapter in which this localization was done. 

Let me know what you think about it!

u/GraceT333 — 11 days ago

I made a Hall of Memers for the novel I translate. Am I doing too much?

Hi! For anyone who does not know, I translate The Overlord of Puluo, and recently I made a Reddit post retelling parts of the novel through memes. One reader DeathBoatman joined in and contributed so many PULUO memes that I thought, "Why not make a Hall of Memers to save all his memes!?"

The idea is to give readers who make a lot of PULUO memes their own little profile in the Hall of Memers, along with a collection of the memes they have made. I thought it would be a good way to show appreciation. As shown in the example below, I would design their little profile with my little Ipad and would put the collection of memes together for each reader that submit memes. I love art and it's simple design! I also created a google form for readers to submit memes and be in the Hall of Memers too!

https://www.wuxiaworld.com/page/the-overlord-of-puluo/hall-of-memers

https://preview.redd.it/mkvmntltg9kh1.png?width=926&format=png&auto=webp&s=a7cd6e26d9b4418120b4d0fee371af38bff46ba0

I told Charon about it and he sent me a new meme! I was going to post it yesterday but he says it has to be done today so that the timeline is accurate hahaha!

Timeline to creation of Hall of Memers for PULUO!

I announced the Hall of Memers in the novel earlier, but I did not really get any replies there, so I wanted to ask! I posted this in our forum and I thought I would repost this in Reddit to get more feedback.

For now, Charon Hades remains the only one in the Hall as Memer #001. Maybe the Hall will be just for him (Which I am super happy about), but I am still curious what you guys think. Was this actually a good idea for a novel announcement, or am I doing too much? I also worry that readers might find announcements like this annoying, so I decided to ask here and in the forum instead of doing another announcement.

Anyway, if you guys happen to come across this post, leave me a comment and let me know what you think? I would like to know whether this is something readers find fun, or if I have just gotten a little too carried away with it. Is this the wrong way to use novel announcement?

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u/GraceT333 — 2 months ago

Retelling a Novel Using Only Memes

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u/GraceT333 — 2 months ago
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Retelling a Novel Using Only Memes

Hi all! My name is GTea and I translate The Overlord of Puluo with my friend LD! You can check out this intro video if you are curious about our history and past novels I translated. We were asked to make some memes for the novel we translate, and it got me thinking about how I would explain this novel to my friends using nothing but memes. So here we go! The memes follow the story in order, so come along as I retell the The Overlord of Puluo, one meme at a time!

Spoiler alert?!?

MC: \"I am not crazy. The doc says I am not.\"

How the MC arrived at PULUO and became a cultivator

Cultivation path: Wanderlust or Homebound?

MC just chilling in his Pocket Dwelling while everything else is burning

Cultivation ability: MC hiding in plain sight

GRAMOPHONE SINGING and MC's reaction

KILL LA KILL BURN LA BURN LIFE IN PULUO IS GREAT

WANDER WANDER WANDER WORLD IS BIG MC'S DISCOVERY CHANNEL

Becoming landowners? Doing business with friends?

MC and his many aliases

What's up with the Inner Province and Outer Province? Sage? Something is off.

And that's me sharing what the novel is about in memes! Here's a cookie 🍪 for you for making it to the end! NOMNOMNOM

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u/GraceT333 — 2 months ago

After 300+ chapters of The Overlord of Puluo, I still have no idea what’s happening

I have read a lot of cultivation novels over the years, and I realized that most cultivation systems eventually start to blur together. A while ago, I started translating The Overlord of Puluo (PULUO). It was one of the novels mentioned in this post discussing Chinese webnovel genres under Fantasy (Qihuan), and it was also reviewed in this other post.  

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Before this, I was translating Young Noble Be Monster Slaying, and honestly, translating that felt like going on fun monster-hunting adventures with very lovable characters. I love even the evil characters.

YNS does have mysteries, but the story still feels more like a traditional xianxia novel. The cultivation framework is familiar in a good way. Sects, immortal cultivation, tournaments, missions, monster hunts… it uses those classic elements really well. The chemistry and banter are also great, so it’s just a very fun novel to read.

The Overlord of Puluo, on the other hand, feels very different from YNS and many other cultivation novels I have read. Recently, while translating and reading it, I have found myself constantly stopping just to think, "What the hell is happening?" I am confused, but I want to read more because what the hell is happening?

The worldbuilding itself feels incredibly unique, and the cultivation paths are strangely tied to people’s lifestyles and ways of thinking. There are Wanderlust Cultivators, Homebound Cultivators, Gourmandism Cultivators, Love Cultivators, Calculation Cultivators, and many others. Each path changes how people live, travel, fight, and even see the world around them. 

YNS was a comedy novel. PULUO has comedy too, but the comedy feels completely different from YNS. YNS comedy feels playful and adventurous. PULUO’s comedy feels chaotic, bizarre, and sometimes like the world is barely holding itself together. A lot of the humor comes from how absurd the setting itself is. What I really like is that even after reading more than 300 chapters, I still feel like I don’t fully understand the world yet. There’s always this feeling that something bigger is hidden underneath everything. 

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So far, my rough ratings for PULUO would probably be:

Character rating: 7/10
The characters in Puluo feel stranger, and more unpredictable rather than simply charming. Aside from the MC, I really can't predict who's important and who might die in the next few chapters. I think the first novel I translated, Young Noble Be Monster Slaying (YNS), has stronger characters chemistry overall. The YNS characters feel more immediately alive and lovable.

Worldbuilding rating: 10/10
The world in PULUO is very unique. It’s one of the few novels where the world constantly gives the feeling that something is “off,” with peculiar territories, strange creatures, and weird rules that make even ordinary places feel mysterious and unpredictable. What I also really like is that the world feels massive while still remaining very detailed. Even after hundreds of chapters, it still feels like there is so much left to explore. The cultivation paths are also deeply tied to lifestyles and mentalities rather than simply combat abilities. Wanderlust Cultivators, Dream Cultivators, Homebound Cultivators, and other cultivation paths genuinely shape how characters think and live. There are lands filled with peculiar people, lands of medicine, lands where people rarely leave their homes, lands known for incredible craftsmen, and many other strange territories. Honestly, it sometimes feels a bit like reading The Magic Faraway Tree. The MC’s actions constantly lead him into ever-changing, surreal lands that can be delightful, peculiar, or dangerous.

Plot rating so far: 8/10

What I really like about the plot is how it slowly grows bigger and bigger without feeling forced. The story starts with Li Banfeng getting caught in a murder setup, but later expands into strange territories, weird cultivation paths, powerful factions, dream worlds, and the mysteries of the Inner Provinces.

The mystery is probably the strongest part for me. The story constantly feels like something is "off," but it rarely explains everything immediately. A lot of the fun comes from slowly learning how the world works together with the MC. I also like that many small details introduced early on become important much later in the story. It makes the world feel planned instead of random. The story also keeps changing settings and problems, so it rarely feels repetitive. One arc might focus on survival, another on business wars, another on strange villages or dream-related mysteries. There’s also a major mystery in the story that I am still waiting to fully understand. But even while trying to figure that out, the journey itself still feels interesting because there is always something unpredictable happening. The only downside is that I am really not sure what the MC's goal is as of now.

And that's the end of my review for PULUO. If you are reading it right now, let me know if you agree with my thoughts so far. And if you haven't read it yet, hope you liked this review!

u/GraceT333 — 5 months ago