u/Grimlok565

SIVA is making me lose it

IM LOSING MY FUCKING MIND WHY IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND!?!?!?

So from rise of iron to right now I did a massive lore dive on siva, because of 2 reasons.

  1. Why is it dead.

  2. How is it dead.

And NOTHINGS lining up for 1 and no one seems to remember any of its lore and go "well we did this and that in rise of iron"

Ok, so ishtar collective and destinypedia both from siva logs explicitly state this here:

SIVA doesn't expire, degrade, or forget. It can remain dormant even on long voyages. ~SIVA.MEM.WB0044

Nearly any problem a deep-space colonist could have, SIVA can fix. ~SIVA.MEM.WB0055

And how long do the effects of SIVA last? ~SIVA.MEM.CL0066

Well, SIVA requires no external power source, so…forever. ~SIVA.MEM.WB0077

Just give it a directive, and it won't stop until it gets a new directive. ~SIVA.MEM.WB0088

Ok Coolio, so it doesnr degrade, it runs on an infinite power of its own and last forever, and wont stop until given a new directive or possibly is overridden to stop. SIVA is also listed and stated to self repair and SELF REPLICATE by consuming existing matter around it to break it down and make it into siva.

Holy shit HOW IS IT DEAD IN CURRENT TIME THEN!?!?!

Theres a massive gap from 2016 to ash and iron, that doesnt explicitly or even SLIGHTLY state that "oh yes we altered the directive" or "we did this" and worse over is people say "we took out the replication chamber" but that is a broken and dumb argument because guess what THE SPLICERS IN ASH ANS IRON ARE RECENTLY DEAD so the siva in them was also recently dead otherwise they'd have a bunch of useless limbs and dumb shit on them that doesnt work.

So how are people so ready to try and throw siva out the window when there is no lore that explains how it died, bungie just goes "yeah fuck it, sivas dead" and then thats it???

Then comes the narrative issue "it doesnt fit anymore" Its a TOOL, it can be used as a TOOL or simply as a way to create a subfaction of eliksni and nothing more, it can simply exist as that, a sub faction that comes around every now and then. And bungie has brought everything back from D1 BUT SIVA!!!

Then came ash and iron and you mean to tell me they cant RIP A REPLICATION CHAMBER from an alt timeline when she did so with the red legion???

Am I crazy??? Did I miss something????​

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u/Grimlok565 — 1 day ago
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Siva questions

I'll be honest, I never got siva hate or the "it was done in rise of iron let it go" when bungie from pre-launch and concept art showed it was going to have a place in destiny 2 vanilla before being cut and forgotten then killed, and i still to this day dont understand why bungie internally left it in the past but not anything else from rise of iron.

Ill go further to say for some reason anything from rise of iron period was neglected and was almost purposely ignored, but siva especially.

With it all ending in Ash and Iron as a giant "please shut the fuck up we dont care that you guys want siva and iron lord shit from 9 to 10 years ago, its gone"

Maybe im crazy but there was more than enough reason or places to reintroduce siva and let it exist in the world and not take away from the light and dark saga.

u/Grimlok565 — 12 days ago