I hate to say this as a day 1 widow player. The rework is good.

The widow mains sub is the saddest out of all the characters subs. No matter what they’re never happy and they just verbally harass anyone that disagrees with their opinion. Or better yet disagrees with the factual statistics, along with the best widow players in the world. This was on a post about someone quitting the game over the rework that made her better. There’s constantly people saying it’s a nerf, when all of did was lower her skill expression. Black widow was my first lord in season 0 and the reason i started playing this game. I now have 40 hours on her with a 56% average accuracy pre rework and post rework. But yet, there’s people saying “if you’re good now with the rework, your aim was just bad before”. This is a completely illogical cope. This sub is completely divided and nobody gets along in any of the posts, and it makes me sad as a black widow player to see all the ego. The entire sub is full of people that don’t even play the game anymore because they never even gave the rework a chance. Yes it’s better for lower skill players, but that means it’s even better for high skill players. This is overall healthier for the game, yet they quit, and they still make posts and comments about the game after they quit. “I put over 200 hours on the character so that means it’s a nerf” another illogical cope I’ve seen. You all should be getting way more kills and be happy that she’s not the staple of throwing anymore. If you can’t make the new widow work, that’s the real skill issue because she’s a lot easier. But if you made the old widow work I know for a fact you can make the new one work. Not everyone has the courage to relearn the character, and most people delete the game just because of one character. You guys are the exact problem with this game. Your video game egos are very concerning, just because a character isn’t as hard to play anymore doesn’t mean you should delete the game, and complain about it months later after you already stopped playing the game.

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u/GullibleHousing3381 — 4 days ago

The hood team up is only op in lower elo

All these clips I’m seeing of people shredding a group in a tight corridor keep saying “this is op and it needs a nerf”

The team up is absolutely not op, maybe if the enemies are Helen Keller and don’t have eyes and ears. As someone that has almost 300 hours on Magik and has gotten to eternity with her, playing with this team up in quick match versus high celestial and eternity has a huge difference. Smart people will notice it and move out of the circle and away from the many demons you place.

I’ve used the team up in plenty of games by now to know people are blowing it way out of proportion, sure people have a 63% winrate overall with it, that’s because of casual enemies. Compared to the strange team up, it’s actually extremely impractical. You can disk, strange team up, then demon on a giant group of enemies, and use another demon on the supports in it if that wasn’t enough.

All of us can have our own opinions, but it’s just simply not true that this team up is actually op. In qp sure, in grandmaster and below, sure. But against real players that are listening and paying close attention, it’s not as useful as strange team up in most situations.

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u/GullibleHousing3381 — 11 days ago
▲ 35 r/thingmains+1 crossposts

“Well well who have we here”

Sorry about the bad quality i edited this multiple times to try and make it better to no avail

u/GullibleHousing3381 — 2 months ago