After a few rounds of revision including consulting multiple violists and feedback from here, here's my final revised version of the first movement of my viola concerto! (Listed my edit process in case anyone is interested, because it worked really well for me)

So primarily there were two rounds of edits, the first one after I posted the movement the other day in which I focused only on:

  • Reducing reliance of tempo alterations (replacing with metric modulation), this was decided after I tried to conduct along and found it impossible to keep up with my own alterations lol. So like 80% of those were cut in favor of the conservative option
  • Making sure runs are melodic and functional (achieves the texture but also has a logical sequence that isn't just broken triads)

After that I received the most common feedback that it wandered too much with too little payoff, so this one was where I think is applicable across anything:

  • Make a copy of the file, and double every phrase by 2 by inserting measures and focusing on using variance in the doublings. (yes it will get repetitive but dont worry that is addressed)
  • After doubling, increase the density of any layer (rhythmic, orchestration, etc) by 50%
  • Now take away 51%, at this point it should become apparent what needs to go and what needs to stay. One of the most memorable quotes I ever came across while studying is "The best possible studies in rhythm are the songs of Schubert [..] But let it be remembered that they are all the outcomes of spontaneous invention; if they had been hunted for or manufactured, sincerity would not be so patent upon every page. Genuine rhythmical invention, like melodic, comes to the composer because it must, not because he makes it." (pg27 of C.V.Stanford's Musical Composition, 1911). I think one of my biggest "lessons" as of late has been reinterpreting this passage as a valid commentary on the editing process instead of solely the discovery. Idk why I felt the need to elaborate there but it's been on my mind lately

Probably my next step will be to reduce to piano accomp. after the whole thing is finished and let that also play a factor in what stays and what goes in the original. I have a soft spot for the viola so this project is one I am planning to spend a long time polishing, hope you like it so far!

u/HaifaJenner123 — 7 days ago
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First movement for a viola concerto I wrote using both western & arabic scales/modes!

u/HaifaJenner123 — 9 days ago

I don't know how to write a post-1900 era concerto for the viola. Here's a first movement for a concerto I am writing

(That's totally fine with me btw I just am joking lol i am not conventionally very tonal anyways). Recently I've begun framing long-form works such as the concerto, symphony, sonata, etc as a sort of collection of essays in which I "prove" my "thesis" in a variety of ways - so that's a basic summary of where I'm thinking now in terms of musical organization

u/HaifaJenner123 — 10 days ago
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Please for the love of god, let me convince you to read “Behind Bars: The Definitive Guide to Musical Notation” by Elaine Gould.

I find that there are a shockingly high amount of composers who post scores with such rudimentary mistakes that it brings into question the ability to read music.

Now, I swear I am not a paid advertiser, but please consider using it for the following:

  1. We are work with a creative medium. Having a mutual agreement and understanding of certain conventions makes discussions a whole lot more productive. I am talking basic organization and structural units. To me, going outside the conventions requires strong reasoning.
  2. “How do I compose for an instrument I don’t play?”Lucky for you, there’s an added bonus in learning how to notate extended techniques as well as conventions, hundreds of pages on this.
  3. It helps transitioning software by making you aware of the biggest limitations.

It seriously is a frustration of mine to see people react defensively to recommendations from this book. Please, just read it and consult often… Why waste time making up crazy justifications for stuff that has logical conventions, idk

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u/HaifaJenner123 — 13 days ago

Somewhat reentering a minimalist/motivic-based era of my style, here's the first movement of a Piano Sonata I am writing!

Hope you enjoy!

u/HaifaJenner123 — 13 days ago
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Symphony Nr. 10 in f minor - IV: Lento - Allegro energico (Mohamed Diab). FINALLY happy with this movement lol.

Following up on my Symphony that I posted the first movement for a month ago (btw thank you again everyone for your support!!) After about 4 redos of the finale i am finally pleased with how it turned out lol. Hope you enjoy!

u/HaifaJenner123 — 13 days ago

what is the most insignificant thing that people actually fight/argue about in your country? bonus points if everyone knows it’s a non issue too.

i’m talking like stuff that is so dumb that it’s funny but still manages to cause heated debates, like the chicken burger vs sandwich thing.

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u/HaifaJenner123 — 1 month ago

So, I have a goal of making sure my country has made its presence in the classical world which is why I write a lot of folk-inspired music. In the latest installment of this is the first 3 movements from a symphonic suite I have been working on this past week. [Score PDF + WAV]

I usually would explain my pieces contextually, but I actually want to let the music speak for itself here. I am not totally convinced I have met the final personality for the last movement so that one is a bit up in the air. I'm curious to see what thoughts are because I had a very specific goal and context in mind but I am interested if that came across. Note, this is still a work in progress so please forgive any small engraving errors!

Score - Egyptian Dances Suite

Audio (.wav)

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u/HaifaJenner123 — 2 months ago

how long does your country spend studying ancient history or eras of antiquity in its curriculum?

as you can probably predict, we spend a lot of time especially when young on studying ancient egypt - i had one full year of history lessons dedicated to it plus some other years too mixed in with other things. it’s been many years since for me but my brothers all did the same too

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u/HaifaJenner123 — 2 months ago

Egyptian Dances Suite: III. In The Bazaar (Based on the sounds of Khan Al-Khalili in Old Cairo)

Recently, I took a walk during the middle of the night through the old market district and just recorded the sounds that I heard. Wasn’t sure what I was going to do with that so I decided this was a good opportunity to use the inspiration. It’s meant to be somewhat of a living experience that expands and contracts together. Hope you enjoy!

u/HaifaJenner123 — 2 months ago

Egyptian Dances: II. At The Corniche (Alexandrian Waltz)

one of my favorite things about alexandrian regional music is its propensity for being tongue-in-cheek. it’s very playful and lighthearted, and tends to feature vamps where rhythm is altered in simplistic ways that still command the attention. so that’s what i did here, the first mvmt melody is reassembled in a vague waltz before an attaca into the final dance. hope you enjoy!

u/HaifaJenner123 — 2 months ago

Back to the 1 orchestral piece per day grind, this time practicing workflow & percussive style specifically - The objective is to just write whatever comes to mind in exactly one hour & anything left is a lesson in prioritizing time management for next day

so we didn’t get 100% of the notes on the page but there is in fact an ending so i would consider this a successful round.. what i mean by workflow is i want to eliminate redundant steps that i have out of laziness (brass glissandi i have a habit of not checking what’s actually possible - i didn’t allow myself to check here i had to think of if i was actually playing it as my only option…hopefully they’re wrong because that is something i do need to commit to memory but stuff like that is what im looking for in this case). also, by percussive i mean im trying to translate every aspect of traditional egyptian (well, modern egyptian rly but folk) music to western classical in the same way that hindemith, khachaturian (armenian but same foundation), etc did. literally the recurring theme with all examples in existing repertory is that the percussion either sounds nothing like it’s supposed to mimic or it’s too literal and ends up being a cheap gimmick - so, this is hopefully going to reveal some ideas under pressure as the only “unconventional” aspect i will allow myself is an altered snare, no darabukeh/tablas/etc

btw if anyone wants to try this method out too, i do it basically every year.. the first half this year was freestyle kinda but this second half i am creating prompts for each day so i dont mind sharing them (also maybe some collaboration in the brainstorm dept cos i only have 2 months worth right now haha)

a little abt this piece, it’s mostly original but the opening few bars and all others in 6/8 are an adaptation of a song we had to sing every day during military service - the rest of the piece is a march that emulates the sound of our military band (which, im not gonna insult my country but if you haven’t heard them, search “egyptian military band performs xyz anthem….”, its a rather mid-20th century soviet sound but uhh in our case its not due to the fault of the instruments lol)

u/HaifaJenner123 — 2 months ago

is there an easier way to do the circled cross-stave? (see inside)

so, the circled one took me like 10 mins to figure out a way to make the cross-stave include the stem as well in both directions (ended up just making a duplicate voice of the first three notes in RH, making them all invisible except for that A flat -> beaming across to the bass stave -> switching the stem direction). (i also tried just duplicating that one note in isolation but it doesnt connect to both if i do that, the problem specifically is the stem..which isnt common in cross-beaming but in this piece it is needed a few more times).

u/HaifaJenner123 — 2 months ago

what have been your proudest moments or milestones as a composer?

i’ve had a few, but i just completed my tenth symphony, which rounds out the amount of planned ones i had in the works (one every 2 years on average is what i’ve done). honestly though, i’m more impressed with the discipline i taught myself this year. context i have degrees in violin & composition but after college i ended up down the section violinist & conductor for youth ensembles route for quite a few years. so basically from like 24-28 i only wrote a few things each year for my personal library (not counting pop/small commissions/etc). i’m 33 now, so i have hopefully many decades to still work, but i am at least content with what my repertoire consists of and that is good enough for me.

this year i made it a mission to write at least one 90-second miniature piece per day - it was kinda shit at first but holy smokes was it the best thing i ever did. i’ve basically learned the concept of “just write. write anything” 5/6 different ways now and in multiple languages across different decades.. and each time it has revealed an incredibly large piece of the overall puzzle. currently, my “inner playback” isn’t even actual “music” anymore, but rather like sort of energies..however that could also be new SSRI i started, so who knows actually. but it’s cool for now.

and not only that, but i’ve also grown to really appreciate what others have to say through their art. i discovered that i actually find more inspiration from reading novels than i previously thought, i enjoy reading composers explain their “quirks” and just in general have overall really improved my social skills just by actively trying to not feed negativity. something that i seriously neglected in the past. i don’t even take offense to negative criticism, it’s appreciated actually because an opinion means a mark was at least left imo.

this sort of went on a tangent, but i genuinely have noticed that the atmosphere on this sub & r/Composition has turned rather positive in the past year (at least in my experience commenting). sure there’s the “you shouldn’t be writing at this level yet” which is sometimes necessary to hear. maybe not so harshly, like yeah if you’re having trouble filling up 8 out of 20 staves that may be a sign to go down a few levels but i’ve found people are at least explaining why lol. but like…idk, there has been a rather noticeable shift towards community and i hope that trend continues because there are some really awesome people and perspectives here!

anyways tldr im proud that i actually stuck to a specific goal with fully tangible milestones, it works - trust me. especially well if you explain each one to at least one person in under 5 sentences. try it if you’re in a rut. but what are some milestones or proud moments for you? doesn’t even have to be performances, i’m in a celebratory mood & want to celebrate others’ achievements as well!

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u/HaifaJenner123 — 2 months ago

I’m back with the fourth movement of my symphony i posted last week. We’re almost to the finish line except for closing it out - also, does anyone do editing/consults? see inside (paid ofc)

after the whole thing is finished, i want to send it to a few composers who are ideally wind players so i can pay for detailed critiques. if anyone is interested send me a dm with your hourly rates, and i’ll attach the full score in a comment here so you can see roughly what we’re working with. i plan on the editing stage lasting a few months so that side is not a rush. anyways, hope you enjoy! i decided to lean more into the arabic side of things for this mvmt.

u/HaifaJenner123 — 2 months ago

Update on my post abt my symphony - the first movement draft is complete & honestly turned out rly cool i think.

i follow a somewhat formulaic approach when it comes to first movements of symphonies in particular - i like to deconstruct the main rhythmic motifs in a manner similar to how respighi/prokofiev/hindemith tend to frame their opening movements. for me rhythm is my primary consideration so i like to end in sort of “cliffhangers” that get resolved by the pickup to the following movement.. thus, since i pretty much exhausted every option/variation of the opening 3 notes, the pickup to 2nd is the last time it occurs until the final reprise … hope you enjoy!

u/HaifaJenner123 — 2 months ago

Inspired by a recent conversation on here about violinists/pianists writing for the other instrument, I composed a cycle of "Preludes of Approximate Tonalities for Solo Piano" - It follows a circular structure where the inverse order also works in a similar path/modulation.

There was a thread here recently where the discussion centered around violinists writing for piano and vice versa, which inspired me to write this collection. It is "approximate" in the sense that I superimpose both major/minor as well as several other elements on top of each other, such as the 3/4 against 4/4 in prelude #2 or the 5/4 in a 3/4 feeling in #4. Hope you enjoy!

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u/HaifaJenner123 — 3 months ago