Trail team L, XL and XXL

I had the previous Trail (now perf edition) in L and XL. The team edition offers more glide as expected. More agility at the same size (L vs L), a different agility at same surface (Team XXL vs Perf XL) i.e. it feels more agile sometimes but I can still feel it's really big at other times. The lift per area is definitely higher than previous version (Team XXL vs Perf XL), I'm not 100% sure it exactly as high when you compare the same size (L vs L), it's really high though : I'm 100kg and at my second session I did 7/8 successful beach start on the team L (easy spot, but I'm not even sure I was that high with the Perf XL last year on the same spot). I was at more than 50% success dead starting the team L from a concrete dock. I managed to launch the team L from the BLISS into waves, less than 50% launch success rate, but really fun to surf : agile and allowing me to reconnect for long durations, I plan on trying it in surf foil and I expect it to be an upgrade on the Veloce V3 XXL.

I did my best wake thief ever on the team L. I'm a beginner at that and only ever get few attempts (3-4 last year, only one this year)

It is still not a long distance front wing, I made 3 attempts at lasting on the team XXL and failed to beat my PR on the Perf XL (110s).

Hyper Trail XL

I wasn't planning on buying this one, but when they put it in my hands in the shop, it looked so nice, I changed my order and switch the Ypra Surf Carve L to the HT XL.

I was impressed to be able to beach start and dead start it even if at low success rates.

Beach start of the Trail team L and Hyper Trail XL

Dead start of the Trail team L and Hyper Trail XL

Good glide, feels fast to pump and fun to turn, better on every aspect than the Veloce V3 XXL even launch accessibility and agility.

Tried it in wing in very light wind. I was with the Xiggy 6'11". After the success at beach start I was hoping for really early take offs, but in the end I was not impressed by how early I could pump on foil, maybe the Xiggy is limiting me there. It was flat water, tacks are made easy, it's more agile than a Veloce V3 XXL despite the 4cm additional wingspan and feels like it's be faster if you take it in enough wind to push it. I'm not recommending to buy it for winging, but if you have it, it's a good possible usage.

Veloce FreeFly team edition L and XL

I had the Veloce V3 (now perf edition) in L, XL and XXL. I only tried the FF winging on flat water or a mix of very small swell + chops from different directions. I tried them with a Veloce DW lower XL stab at 0° on tail M which is also supposed to add extra glide over the Veloce L 0° tail M I wave using with the Veloce V3.

Just after the first take off and the first jibe + tack I was nearly disappointed because I couldn't feel the theoretical extra glide but at the end of the session I was totally euphoric about it. The FF as a much lower minimal speed, recovers much better from, it's (a lot) more rigid, really forgiving and much more agile than the previous Veloce overall. It's not as good rail to rail as the Fluid V3, but at least as forgiving on every little mistakes and imprecisions, recovering better from low speed than Fluid or Veloce V3. There is not the "I need to anticipate each change in my turns to stay in control of the foil" that made the Veloce V3 more advanced level than the others. On the glide side, as I said, I can't feel it's more than Veloce V3 on flat water, but when surfing the messy chop I had, I was doing way better, at first I though "here's the better glide", but it's probably also a combinaison with how easy the FF is overall. The FF is so easy that I'm pretty sure it's easier to learn jibes and tacks on it than on the Curve V3 and maybe even the X-Over for the jibes, the only thing that will prevent me to recommending it to a flying beginner will be learning to switch feet.

The FF is not naturally as fast as the Veloce V3, if I don't push it at all I can ride it at a lower average speed. Pushing it feels like it's much faster, in between the Ypra Surf V3 and Veloce V3, maybe closer to the Ypra Surf, I failed to get numbers to confirm the feeling though 😢

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u/Hecubha — 4 days ago

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inflating 1500L at 12 PSI ?

Hi,

I'll have soon this giant thing : 1500L, 2 inflation plugs, that I would need to pump at least to 12 (15 even better) PSI on a regular basis. So I figured I'd need to buy 2 electric pumps to pump 750L each. I made some web research and spotted the Outdoor Master Shark 3 claiming it may be able to pump each half of it in 8-10 minutes.

Then I found out about this sub reddit, I suppose you are the experts at electric pumps.

Do you know if the ORCA PRO would be faster than the Shark 3 ? do you know any faster model ?

I don't really need it to be on batterie, I don't mind plugging them to the car or to a portable battery delivering 220V.

Thanks in advance

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u/Hecubha — 1 month ago

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Quick test of the Droid SP

For the past few days, I've had a test wing pack that GONG lent me. This pack includes a 4.5m² Droid SP CZ 2026. I previously had the 5.5m² Droid Aramid Triple Ripstop 2026, which I enjoyed in very light winds, but I kept the Neutra for my program: 12 knots minimum, surfing, rarely jumping, and almost never speed.

So far, I've only been able to use it twice.

The first time, the wind was onshore, 25-30 knots, no waves but a very tight, choppy surface, giving the impression of a very messed up body of water. I'm not sure I would have gone out in those conditions if it wasn't to test the wing; if I had decided to go anyway, I would have gone with the 3.5m² Neutra Aramid 2026. I went out on a Cruzader Diamond 6'0 and an Ypra Surf XL. In these conditions, I was definitely overpowered; the first run felt more like a rodeo than sailing. Then I started to adapt. Actually, it was manageable; you just have to not let yourself be intimidated and really lean into the harness. Then it was nice and stable and wanted to pull. It was fast, but I didn't dare push the foil too hard; the chop wasn't easy to handle. First jump, I catapulted myself (well, yeah, it's not often I go that fast) and it pulled me upwards. Since I don't jump often, I wasn't feeling very confident up there. I grabbed onto the wing and landed with all the grace of a jellyfish washed up on the beach. For the following jumps, I learned my lesson: I pushed less hard, allowed myself to be pulled by the wing, and managed to land cleanly about half the time. The next session was surfing, even with the foil but less wind, so in Neutra 5.5: I felt like I was dragging.

Second session, this time with just enough wind, so I take the Xiggy 6'11". The wind is offshore between 10 and almost 20 knots, the water is very clean, almost no waves, a few visible gusts, and some whitecaps under the strongest gusts. Second time trying to go fast on flat water with the Ypra Surf, first time in similar wind conditions with the Neutra 5.5. I reached a maximum of 24 knots over 10 seconds, but with the feeling of fighting with the foil. This time I move the foil forward one point; I might try even more forward next time, but it gave me a super balanced foil. Add the wing, which is super stable and fast: in this borderline wind, I never felt like I was really pushing the foil, just trying to let it glide. I reach 25 knots over 10 seconds in total comfort.

At the end of the session, I manage to catch a handful of micro-waves. Surfing in a headwind like this, I can definitely feel it drags more than my Neutras, but it still follows quite well in freefly. It feels more present in the hand, so it's clearly not the one I'd recommend for someone like me who has a very surf-oriented riding style, but it won't stop you from freeflying occasionally if your main goal is to go fast on flat water; you'll just use a smaller size for wave sessions.

While I normally only swear by surfing, it's pretty fun because this wing makes me want to do another flat session in 20-25 knots and see how much better I can do :-D

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u/Hecubha — 3 months ago

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I wrote this in French and added and English translation below.

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u/Hecubha — 4 months ago