Possibly enmeshed? Graduation situation
Me (F24) and my husband (M26) have been married for two years. We married early because my dad was choosing medically assisted death and we wanted him at our wedding before he was gone. His family has never really liked us, and at one point my husband used to tell me things like, “they’re not like that,” and “they like you I don’t know why you’re creating problems.”
He had an eye opener when during my dad’s funeral his mom said that she needed him more than I did at that time, and since then he’s heavily distanced from his family.
He graduated from university this Sunday, and invited his family, me, and his boss and their family (we’re really close with them). We let them know while the ceremony starts at 6, seating starts at 4:30, the drive can be up to 2 hours to we suggest they leave at 2 and maybe we can use the extra time for pictures.
It’s a big event full of many people so seating does in fact matter. My BIL said to that, “I’m not leaving at 2 for an event at 6.” Sure, fine, we said that’s ok we’re leaving early because graduates need to get there early anyways.
We left on time, took pictures, got in line. By the time they got there I had saved seats and my husband was with the graduates trying to get things going. I get asked if he’s wearing his pin.
For context his mom got him a pin to put on his tassel, it has a picture of his deceased dad. His dad passed away 4 years ago. We forgot it at home, it wasn’t like an oversight or anything my cat had kidney failure and we were rushing the morning of Sunday to get her to the vet before we left. She got hospitalized, we didn’t even want to go to the grad at that point, but still did. Whatever he could grab that he knew he would need (cap and gown) is all he really grabbed and we left.
So I told them we must have forgotten with everything going on this morning. Both MIL and BIL start going about how unappreciative he is of gifts, how that was his dad and he doesn’t care, yada yada. I firmly say “he forgot, there’s no reason to make a big deal out of it, we are dealing with a possibly dying cat.”
BIL gives me a look and says “you don’t need to say that,” and starts patting MIL shoulder and rubbing her knee and saying it’s okay to her quietly.
Ceremony starts and MIL says she bought him stuff to wear around his neck and asks when he can come grab it. I message him and he says he’s in the grad lineup and he can’t really leave unless he’s wanting to go very last. I let them know and BIL gives me another weird and mean look.
BIL later asks me how my cat is doing, I said I don’t really know. He tells me I shouldn’t be spending so much time and money on a cat and just to put that one down and buy another one. I give him another very firm answer of “that’s a life and that’s my cat.”
Last Sunday we went for his honours ceremony (just me and him), and we invited his friends for dinner afterwards because they’re his closest friends. Someone from the medal ceremony recognizes me and asks me how he’s doing and asks if he remembered his medal. His family did not know about this because he only had one ticket to the medal ceremony and he wanted to prioritize me, and he knew they would freak out if they found out.
Freak out they did, BIL started whining about “I see how it is,” and “I see my place in his life.” I said he had one ticket, and in his wife. “No like his brother isn’t important.”
Mid ceremony he asks if I brought a camera and I say no, I’m using my phone. He asks why I would forget that, and I say well because of my cat but regardless it didn’t matter because professional pictures are being taken of him and he doesn’t like pictures anyway. I thought that was the end of that (we will get back to that later)
Then MIL and his grandparents get up after he gets his diploma and say they’re in physical pain so they’ll wait for him in the car. I say okay. BIL asks me if I have plans afterwards, I tell him “not really but we haven’t eaten even a little today so we might be grabbing food, if we have time maybe a restaurant.” Said nothing about us not being able to take pictures, or them not being allowed to join us.
They leave before the ceremony even ends. It’s 8PM when they leave, 8:30 I message to let them know an usherer just told us the ceremony ends at 9. They’ve already left, but that was my attempt at letting them know they have to wait a little longer.
When the ceremony is done we just grab McDonald’s on the way home, we get home around 11 because of the drive. The second we get home MIL snaps at my husband and says “you hurt us, we aren’t important to you and we know that. You went to dinner without us, you don’t want pictures with us, and you threw away your dad pin. The least you could have done is say hi!”
BIL is gone, it’s just me and my husband and MIL. he tries to explain he has no idea what that’s all about because he hasn’t even had a chance to talk to anyone today, she keeps cutting him off so I tell her “you wanted him to say hi to you in midst of over 10 thousand people while he was graduating?”
She snaps at me, calls me a smartass says I ruined the whole mood and snapped at BIL all day, yada yada. We fight, when she realizes she has no basis for what she’s saying but I do she starts crying and saying “I’m grieving and you’re hurting me!”, and “you wouldn’t know what I’m going through” (my dad died less than a year ago so I snap and have to leave)
An hour later I go down to apologize for yelling and calling her self centred. She apologizes for personal insults and explains she was grieving and BIL was feeding her with information. We don’t believe her because she takes no accountability, not really, just blames it on BIL. But hey it’s progress, at least we aren’t fighting.
The next day my husbands best friend shares messages he’s received from BIL where BIL says my husband is a douche and didn’t care about family.
Says:
And they made plans after without telling any of our family or inviting us
For example I found out he invited yall to dinner last week for the medal ceremony and didn't invite any of us or anything
My mom bought him balloons got him a special custom pin with my dad on it for him to wear and he didn't even take it with him
He wasn't even willing to take pictures with me or anything
He always puts friends over family and blames everything on us
(And more, it’s a lot)
So now to an extent we believe MIL, but the thing is this behaviour from SIL and BIL always stem from MIL initially being upset.
SIL is in another state and pregnant so we couldn’t really include her, but the other day when MIL asked me to fix her IPad I saw suspicious messages from her about how I must have purposely told my husband that we’d get there early so only I got pictures with him, and MIL agreed.
I’m just so done with them, this happens regularly over smaller stuff but I thought they could put their feelings aside for a big day such as a graduation. Instead they made it so incredibly shitty for them and the worst part is if he were still in the enmeshment then they would have made me see like the villain but because he’s not he is now. He would technically be happier and more peaceful in it.
I don’t even know if this is truly an enmeshment but a pattern I’ve seen is MIL gets upset at one of the kids and all the kids get upset at that one of the kids and often make up lies to have more “grounds” for being upset. It’s usually my husband, sometimes it’s SIL, rarely it’s BIL.
And spouses get dragged in always. Unless it’s BIL, because he only has a girlfriend I guess.
The worst part is my husband is the youngest, the rest are all pushing thirty or over thirty. You’d expect less childish behaviour from them.
Recently we’ve also noticed that all three of them come up with stories that don’t exist, and if you play into them they add on to it. So for example MIL said a month ago, that when my husband was down in his room he was telling her everyone he invited (but her) and then walked away and she had to beg to be invited. I was standing right there in the hallway. He asked if she wanted to go because he wanted her there, and she said yes.
I played along with it and said he actually was going to ask you with a golden ticket and flowers which is why he left, to go grab them. And she started crying and saying she wish she knew, and that he just seemed like he wasn’t going to invite her at all. And she’s glad he still sees her as someone he gives flowers to and it’s not just me.
I don’t get why she played along because I added on to her lie, surely she knew I lied. Didn’t seem like it though.
Anyways, would love to hear thoughts and opinions since everyone around us is making us the bad guy.