Isabella of France was almost certainly blonde
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Isabella of France was almost certainly blonde

Kathryn Warner has, over the years, made several quite categorical remarks about our ability to reconstruct Isabella of France's appearance. In 2013, she stated that "(n)o source records Isabella’s appearance, other than that she was very beautiful... We have no idea whether her hair was blonde or black or chestnut brown or auburn, whether she was slender or plump, short or tall, pale-skinned or darker, whether she had blue or green or hazel or brown eyes." Having looked at the available evidence, however, I've concluded that this degree of agnosticism is unwarranted. We actually are able to reconstruct, with a fair degree of certainty, aspects of her appearance, and one of those aspects is her hair colour. There are two main pieces of evidence I wish to present in this regard:

1. Isabella is explicitly referred to as being blonde in at least one English source dating from her lifetime.

And it is a very famous source indeed, one you would have almost certainly encountered before if you have explored the historiography of Edward II's life and reign before: the Lament. The relevant description occurs in the eighth stanza:

Parti m'ount un ju saunz joie;

de tel tristour my qoer se pleint

De cele est qe trover quidoye

fyn loialté, vers moi se feint.

Dieux! come bien amay la bloye;

mais ore est l'estencele esteint

fyn amour; pur ceo ma joie

s'en est alee, come est de meint. *

The fifth line reads, quite clearly, as "Oh God, how much did I love the blonde one!" Those who are familiar only with Paul Studer's translation of the poem, in which the relevant word is rendered simply as "fair", might assume it simply means "fair" in the sense of "beautiful" or "comely." Not so. La bloye is, unambigously, a reference to hair colour. When used as a noun-phrase, the Anglo-Norman dictionary explicitly translates bloi as "blond-haired person." It is true that blond hair, or crine bloie, was an element of courtly descriptio, one of the set of conventional features with which the domnas of courtly love poetry or the heroines of chivalric romances were described with as a matter of course. But there is an obvious difference between giving a fictional female character a specific hair colour in line with contemporary beauty standards and describing a famous living individual, who the reader is supposed to be able to identify, with a hair colour she did not have. If Isabella had had an unflattering hair colour, the author could simply have not made any mention to it at all. The Chronique métrique of Geoffrey of Paris describes Isabella as being “la plus belle des belles", so, to me, the most parsimonious explanation of the poem's phrase is that Isabella was indeed blonde, and this was one of the ways in which her appearance aligned with the beauty standards of the day.

There's an additional point to be made about the language of the poem itself. Anglo-Norman courtly love poetry would have had a readership that skewed heavily towards the societal elite. The people of England outside of the orbit of court still overwhelmingly spoke English. A substantial portion of the people who could even read this poem would have also seen Isabella in person on public occaisons. It remains, of course, possible this description was a mere idealisation with no relation to her actual appearance, but I really do not find that particularly probable.

2. Her father was explicitly described as blond too, and Geoffrey of Paris draws a direct connection between Isabella and her father's good looks

Philip IV is explicitly described, in an anonymous royal chronicle written c. 1342, when he was definitely still in living memory, as having been flavus, rubicundus et candidus et decorus; which Elizabeth A. R. Brown translates as “golden-blond, ruddy, fair, and seemly." While this may not seem all that relevant to Isabella, given that genetic inheritance is not deterministic, we do have a contemporary source that gives a fairly strong indication that Isabella did indeed resemble her father, and it is, once again, the Chronique métrique. Right after describing the dramatic incident in which Edward II saved Isabella's life after a fire broke out in their silken pavillion in Pontoise, Geoffrey of Paris, apropos of nothing, writes:

La noble et sage dame Ysabiau,

Son père des biax le plus biau;

Si est bien droite égalité,

Que bel engendroit grant beauté.

Which I would translate as:

"The noble and wise lady Isabeau,

her father, the fairest of the fair;

It is only right and proper,

that so fair a man should beget such beauty."

Notice that Geoffrey is using the grammatically masculine version of the same phrase he used previously for Isabella: the fairest of the fair. This is Geoffrey stating, in no uncertain terms, that Isabella got her good looks from her father. If her father was blond, as we have fairly good reason to believe, we have a good reason for taking the description of her in the Lament at face value. As much as it bums me out, as a Raven-haired Isabella headcanoner, I see no reason to doubt the preponderance of evidence here.

*As a side note, Studer translates the relevant line as "Fair Isabel I dearly loved" based on the version of the poem found in Longleat Manuscript 26, in which the line reads "beux tant amay la bloye." I have instead used the version of the poem found in the Royal manuscripts, in which the line reads as above. Studer and Aspin take "beux" as being a hypocorism of "Isabeaux" and translate it as "Isabel" on that basis. I, however, concur with Smallwood's critcism of this choice: "Studer's emendation from MS Beux or Deux relied chiefly on romantic appeal, and R's line must be preferred. It has never been shown that Beux was a known pet-form of Isabel."

u/AnantaPurima — 1 day ago
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On This Day in 1274: King Edward I was crowned King of England

Edward had technically been king since his father Henry III died in 1272, but he was away on crusade and did not return to England until August 1274. He was anointed and crowned by Archbishop Robert Kilwardby, with Alexander III of Scotland and many of the English nobility present.

The coronation marked the beginning of a long, turbulent, and memorable reign. Edward would go on to conquer Wales and wage decades of war against Scotland, earning the nickname “Hammer of the Scots.”

Eleanor of Castile was also crowned Queen of England on the same day as her husband.

Shattered skeleton in Scottish castle is first confirmed death from trebuchet

A Science.org article by Andrew Curry details the archeological dig which unearthed an unfortunate victim of Edward I's Scottish ambitions. The whole thing is worth reading.

It begins:

>For one 20-something defender of Scotland’s Stirling Castle, death came from above—and arrived very, very quickly. Known to archaeologists as Skeleton 150, the man was killed more than 700 years ago by a massive blow that shattered his skeleton in dozens of places before pinning him to the ground.

>In a presentation at the biannual European meeting of the Paleopathology Association in Berlin last week, University of Bradford bioarchaeologist Jo Buckberry called the skeleton the first confirmed evidence of trebuchet trauma in the archaeological record. “The breaks indicate a very large area of impact and devastation,” she says. “It’s likely the individual was killed by a siege engine.”

The image comes from the Science.org article and is by artist Bob Marshall.

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u/HoneybeeXYZ — 3 days ago

That time a twenty-something Piers Gaveston got guardianship over Sir Roger Mortimer, and everyone was chill about it.

I just find it a strange bit of trivia that Piers Gaveston, who was barely grown himself, probably only about 21, was granted guardianship of Sir Roger Mortimer. Yes, that Sir Roger Mortimer, who would go on to overthrow Piers's BFF Edward II.

And by all accounts, it seems like Roger and Piers got along fine.

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u/HoneybeeXYZ — 3 days ago

Edward II Silver Penny

Well, for all the mysteries surrounding Edward II, one thing is sure, he had luxurious wavy locks. It also appears he's wearing some sort of royal robe with a maybe ermine collar? It also doesn't look like he has a beard in this image.

If anyone knows of a clearer example of this coin, let me know.

Source: Hammered British Coins

u/HoneybeeXYZ — 6 days ago
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Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon

Just when you thought you couldn't get any campier. 🤣 I love it ❤️

u/HoneybeeXYZ — 6 days ago
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What could Richard III have done in 1483 that wouldn’t lead to either his death and disgrace or the end of the Plantagenet dynasty?

The way I see things, you’re cooked either way. If you do nothing, the Woodvilles rush Prince Edward to London and get him crowned, and from there they control the body of the King and can put whatever decree they want in front of him and can get it signed. You know they don’t like you, and they know you don’t like them, so they can use any perceived slight by you against them to declare you a traitor and strip you of your lands.

If you try and control Prince Edward yourself, by doing what Richard did historically by intercepting him at Stony Stratford and arresting the boy’s uncles, he’ll always remember that, and it’s only a few years till he reaches his majority. He lived with his maternal uncles and kind and barely even knows you. Same as before, you lose your head.

That leaves the third option of taking the crown yourself, and I really don’t see a better option than that

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u/CrestlessYeoman — 4 days ago
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TIL Isabella of France, Queen of England overthrew her husband Edward II after a famously bad marriage. This was mostly due to his close male companions he favored over her.

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u/BlueWestt — 4 days ago

Madame Alexander's Catherine of Aragon doll, 1950s

So, they weren't going for accuracy, it seems but this is supposed to be their Catherine of Aragon.

u/HoneybeeXYZ — 7 days ago
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King Consort?

I'm asking here because you guys seem super knowledgeable about the BRF and I like reading the responses here

QEII was of course queen through her father's bloodline and married Prince Philip. Was he not called King Consort because he was already an actual titled prince unlike Camilla who is common born and not actually the queen but the Queen Consort? I know he was also a duke as well but I always wondered if that is why he was never called King Consort because he was already nobly born and an actual prince to boot.

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u/HoneybeeXYZ — 8 days ago

1950s era Madame Alexander Doll of Anne Boleyn

I assume that Madame Alexander did all six wives in the 1950s, but this is the only one I could find with a quick search. It's an American company and thus they do lots more American dolls but if I can find more royal consorts, I'll post them.

u/HoneybeeXYZ — 9 days ago
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Behold a Medieval Film that Understands Color! Ivanhoe (1952) Original Trailer [FHD]

Ivanhoe is a fictitious story based on the novel by Sir Walter Scott, and it takes place earlier than Edward II's era, but pursuant to our ongoing conversation about the lack of color in Medieval films, take a look at the trailer. To my untrained eye, it looks like they did use synthetic dyes to make the costumes but it's still far more accurate in terms of color than more recent Medieval films like "The King" and the upcoming "The Uprising."

Hairstyles and makeup? Not so much. Those are pure 1952.

Back in 1952, brightly colored films were in fashion thanks to Technicolor, which like IMAX and 4D cinema today, was a technology used to pry people out of their homes, away from their televisions and into cinemas.

The movie itself is pure fifties melodrama, and it rightfully got middling reviews. But oh the color!

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u/HoneybeeXYZ — 9 days ago

On this Day in 1315, The Great Famine has begun. While staying at St. Albans (August 10-12), Edward II's household had trouble obtaining bread.

The Great Famine was a rare disaster in Edward II's reign, as it was not of his own making, and it seems he did try and do what little he could to help his people during the crisis. That said, he had a large household to feed. Edward would indicate several times over the years that he was aware that his, and the large, hungry households of his fellow lords, put undue pressure on local food supplies.

According to the abbey chronicler at St. Albans, Edward's stay area found his own household staff struggling to buy bread.

Photo: St. Alban's Cathedral and Abbey, wikicommons.

u/HoneybeeXYZ — 10 days ago
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1983 Anne Pelham Puppets Collector Series King Henry VIII & his Wives

u/Crumbusted — 10 days ago
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Was Richard III really as evil as history has portrayed him?

Richard III has one of the most controversial reputations of any medieval English king. Was he genuinely a ruthless usurper responsible for the Princes in the Tower or did the Tudor dynasty have good reason to portray him as a villain? What do you think the evidence actually tells us?

u/HoneybeeXYZ — 11 days ago

Who would you cast as Edward II, Isabella, Piers, Hugh the Younger, Eleanor or Roger Mortimer in big budget film or series?

Over on our sister sub r/RoyalConsorts there's a thread discussing everyone's favorite pop culture portrayals of consorts. There's so many great choices, but when it comes to the E2 era our choices are limited.

So, instead, who would you LIKE to see play one of our players?

Pictured is my current pick for Edward II, Scottish actor Jack Lowden from Slow Horses.

u/HoneybeeXYZ — 11 days ago

What's your favorite onscreen portrayal of a Consort?

Pictured Geneviève Bujold in Anne of a Thousand Days (1969)

u/HoneybeeXYZ — 12 days ago