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Deck greenhouse questions/concerns

Sorry for the novel. I tried about a million times to shorten this, but I wanted to explain what we’re doing before it gets ripped apart. Honestly, that’s kind of what I’m hoping for so we don’t make any huge, unfixable mistakes.

My dad and I are building a roughly 5’x10’x7’ greenhouse off the back of the house for his lemon and grapefruit trees over the winter. He was a home builder his whole life, so I trust him completely when it comes to construction. The problem is that I know very little about greenhouses, and he probably knows even less, so I’m looking for some outside opinions before we get too far.

The roof will be a single sheet of 16mm “triple wall” polycarbonate. The pitch is pretty shallow, so I’m wondering how well it will handle snow/ice. The sides will be insulated glass doors two double doors and one single door. His idea, which could either be brilliant or a complete nightmare.

The deck underneath is mostly new. The 2x10 joists are about 40 years old but in surprisingly great shape. He added supports every 2 feet, replaced the 4x4s with 6x6s, added additional 4x4 supports, and bolted it into the house in a bunch of places.

We actually sit/walk underneath this area, so we’ve tried to beef it up as much as possible. I can post pictures of that if needed, although I’m guessing structural questions are probably better suited for r/decks.

We’re planning to insulate underneath with foam board. On top of the Trex we were thinking Tyvek or another impermeable layer, then a rubber/vinyl mat. I’m also wondering if the floor should have a slight pitch toward a drain to deal with condensation/watering.

The big questions I’m hoping people can help with:
How realistic is it to overwinter lemon/grapefruit trees in a greenhouse in Zone 7? The deck faces southwest and gets a ton of sun, and being attached to the house should help with heat retention, but I’m assuming supplemental heat and possibly lighting will still be necessary.

How do we balance ventilation/humidity control with trying to retain heat in the winter? We’ll have an exhaust fan, and the doors have screens, so summer seems easier.

Should we add a drain in the floor?

How strong is 16mm triple-wall polycarbonate for a roof, particularly with snow? Is our pitch too shallow?

Would wrapping the outside with another layer of plastic or some other insulation actually help?

Any obvious greenhouse-specific problems with the materials/design that I’m missing?

One thing I’m particularly concerned about is the dryer vent. It’s a gas dryer, and my dad thinks venting it near/into the greenhouse will help heat it. I’m pretty sure intentionally putting a gas dryer exhaust into a tiny enclosed room is a terrible idea because of CO and moisture, not to mention the heat/fire concerns. He seems less concerned than I am. 😂 There will at least be a smoke/CO detector, but I’m pushing for the dryer to be properly vented somewhere else and using a safe dedicated heat source if we need supplemental heat.

Basically, I realize there are probably about 47 ways this thing could become a death trap, so I’d rather find them now while we can still change things.
My dad wants to keep his citrus trees in here all winter, and I’m trying to figure out what we need to do to make that realistically possible.

Any advice, criticism, or “absolutely do NOT do that” comments are welcome.

My dad has been growing in ground trees so I think he will be able to keep them pruned to fit but the size and other concerns I have make me think, it better suited as a greenhouse for keeping cold tolerant plants through winter, maybe it will be warm enough for some other vegetables but I just think it’s too small and ill prepared to keep citrus trees and he will have to keep driving my mom crazy by keeping them inside. At least she got creative last year and in lieu a Christmas tree lit and decorated the lemon trees.

Thanks for reading this far and I’d appreciate some constructive criticism

u/IAmGreenman71 — 10 days ago

Question about these 2 plants zone 6b south east PA

I’m pretty sure the first is “love in a mist” not totally sure about the other. I have lots of these seed pods from the dried up plants, I’m guessing that’s the love in the mist(nigella seeds) I’m curious if I could encourage their spread, I know they are non native. The second ones leaves don’t look like the first, it has a medium pinkish flower

u/IAmGreenman71 — 2 months ago

Pull Back by RVRFXmusic

Found this not too long ago and I figured I’d share. They do music equipment demos on their YouTube too but they write a short song to show them off. They are on Spotify under RVRFX with full length songs as well.

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u/IAmGreenman71 — 2 months ago

Ominous spiky plant has a cucumber looking flower?

I’m in south east PA zone 6 It’s about 16” tall popped up a few weeks ago but never noticed the vicious looking spikes today. It is where I kept ducks last year, I grew lots of squash (I thought it was related to this loofa gourd I had a lot of last year) and cucumbers all of which I gave to my ducks so I figured it would be something edible but I know squash can cross pollinate into weird things.

u/IAmGreenman71 — 2 months ago

I know many states across the Mid and north west of the country were in droughts due to decrecer precipitation and ice melt, will this help? Or is it a drop in the bucket? How is the country faring drought wise? I’m in the north east and it seems wayyy dry here and the weather has been anything but normal. What can we expect this summer if we had an April that had 90 degree days?

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u/IAmGreenman71 — 6 months ago