u/IJustWantToClipBolts

Most important stroke types--syntax (Australia) - machine learning project

Hi badminton fans,

I'm working on a machine learning project to develop a badminton auto-grader.

As part of the project I need to define the stroke categories that the model will consider. The only problem is I don't know much at all about badminton.

Could anybody help me to identify the stroke types considered 'significant'? This would be even more helpful if you're Australian, since I imagine terminology varies a little globally.

I've looked around a little and see huge variety in stroke categories recognised in datasets and training manuals.

If anybody could help me to identify which strokes are the most important definitions within my options here, including which can be sensibly combined without anyone feeling like the feedback becomes useless, that would be great!

For reference, I've been working off the ShuttleSet dataset, which contains these stroke categories:

net_shot return_net smash
clear lob wrist_smash
drive driven_flight back_court_drive
drop passive_drop defensive_return_lob
push rush defensive_return_drive
cross_court_net_shot short_service long_service

More specifically, I've been using a couple of collapsed variants of this dataset that identify strokes a bit more broadly:

ShuttleSet 14 strokes:

'net_shot', 'return_net', 'smash', 'wrist_smash',
'lob', 'clear', 'drive', 'drop',
'passive_drop', 'push', 'rush', 'cross_court_net_shot',
'short_service', 'long_service','net_shot', 'return_net', 'smash', 'wrist_smash',
'lob', 'clear', 'drive', 'drop',
'passive_drop', 'push', 'rush', 'cross_court_net_shot',
'short_service', 'long_service',

and ShuttleSet 12 strokes:

'net_shot', 'return_net', 'smash', 'lob',
'clear', 'drive', 'drop', 'push',
'rush', 'cross_court_net_shot', 'short_service', 'long_service','net_shot', 'return_net', 'smash', 'lob',
'clear', 'drive', 'drop', 'push',
'rush', 'cross_court_net_shot', 'short_service', 'long_service',

I could possibly use shots from another dataset, VideoBadminton, which describes the following:

Short Serve Cross Court Flight Lift
Tap Smash Block Drop Shot
Push Shot Transitional Slice Cut
Rush Shot Defensive Clear Defensive Drive
Clear Long Serve Smash
Flat Shot Rear Court Flat Drive Short Flat Shot

Again, if anybody could help, I'd very much appreciate it.

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u/IJustWantToClipBolts — 3 days ago

Trail shoe like Escalante Racer/Inov8 TrailFly for rocky hardpack?

Hi all,

I'd really appreciate some help finding a trail shoe.

I've got the Escalante Racer 2 as my road shoe and find it brilliant. Now I'm looking for something with the same fit (wide toe box, secure mid-foot/heel) for trails.

I ran in the Inov8 TrailFly Speed for a while, which felt nearly identical, if a teensy bit narrow. But our trails here have a lot of rocky hardpack, and the minimal cushioning gave me a forefoot injury from the repeated rocky impacts. It's an 18/22mm shoe with a rock plate.

I've previously tried Lone Peaks (2021) but disliked them. I found the rubber not great for our trails, and the mid-foot quite sloppy. I think the rubber has changed since then? No idea about the fit.

Topo's TerraVenture looks like it'd work, but they're all sold out here.

Does anyone have any suggestions a new shoe I could try? I figure I need >25mm-ish with a rock plate. But that wide toe/snug mid-foot combo is hard to find.

Thanks.

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u/IJustWantToClipBolts — 22 days ago

Trail shoe like Escalante Racer for rocky hardpack?

Hi all,

I'd really appreciate some help finding a trail shoe.

I've got the Escalante Racer 2 as my road shoe and find it brilliant. Now I'm looking for something with the same fit (wide toe box, secure mid-foot/heel) for trails.

I ran in the Inov8 TrailFly Speed for a while, which felt nearly identical, if a teensy bit narrow. But our trails here have a lot of rocky hardpack, and the minimal cushioning gave me a forefoot injury from the repeated rocky impacts. It's an 18/22mm shoe with a rock plate.

I've previously tried Lone Peaks (2021) but disliked them. I found the rubber not great for our trails, and the mid-foot quite sloppy. I think the rubber has changed since then? No idea about the fit.

Topo's TerraVenture looks like it'd work, but they're all sold out here.

Does anyone have any suggestions a new shoe I could try? I figure I need >25mm-ish with a rock plate. But that wide toe/snug mid-foot combo is hard to find.

Thanks.

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u/IJustWantToClipBolts — 22 days ago