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Thank you for your help! Mental fatigue questionnaire study update — how the scale was put together and what this round is doing
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Thank you for your help! Mental fatigue questionnaire study update — how the scale was put together and what this round is doing

Last month I posted here recruiting for my PhD study developing an acute and chronic scale measuring mental fatigue in sport. First off, I want to say a big thank you to everyone who took the time to fill it out. The responses have been brilliant and a few of the comments made me see the problem through a different lens, especially as my background is in climbing and weightlifting so seeing it from a runners perspective was really helpful. A few people also asked how the questionnaire was put together and what this round is doing, and I should have laid that out from the start. Full references are in a separate comment below.

Where the items came from

The scale is being developed following Boateng et al.'s (2018) framework for scale development, which is a detailed primer explaining how to develop and validate scales in behavioural and health science. The starting point was a wide search of the literature. I pulled items from two main sources: 16 measures of mental fatigue and mental load used in the general adult population (identified through Diaz-Garcia et al.'s 2021 systematic review), and 19 measures used in sport-specific contexts (identified through my own systematic scoping review of mental fatigue and mental load measurement tools in sport. I am looking to publish this soon). On top of that I added items developed from my readings of six papers that describe how athletes experience mental fatigue and what drives it (Van Cutsem et al., 2017; Martin et al., 2018; Pattyn et al., 2018; Russell et al., 2019; Gantois et al., 2020; Habay et al., 2021). That gave me a pool of 462 items.

Those 462 items went through a deductive thematic analysis (Braun & Clarke, 2006) at the latent level to identify the underlying domains, which reduced the pool to 105 items. During a team review with my supervisors, it became clear there were two distinct constructs that needed separating: acute mental fatigue (the momentary state right now, before or after a session) and chronic mental fatigue (the longer pattern that builds over weeks and months). The five themes that came out of the analysis were inputs contributing to mental fatigue, motivation, perception of effort, decisional balance, and the influence of mental fatigue on behaviour.

Expert review with subject matter experts

The next step was getting six subject matter experts to review every item. The panel was deliberately mixed: researchers in mental fatigue, an exercise physiologist, a cognition specialist, someone with scale development expertise, a professional coach, and an athlete as end-users. Putting athletes on the panel was important, because items that make perfect sense to experts can land badly when you try to use them in a training context. Each item was rated on appropriateness, representativeness, and clarity using Hardesty and Bearden's (2004) sum-score decision rule, and items that didn't make the cut got removed. Some items were reworded based on expert feedback (for example, "tiredness" was changed to "fatigue" across several items to keep the construct clean). That process left 43 items for acute and 51 for chronic, which is what's currently being distributed.

What this round is doing

This round is about dimensionality and item reduction phase. The data from everyone who fills it in goes into an exploratory factor analysis, which takes that wide item pool and works out which items group together and load cleanly onto meaningful factors, then cuts the ones that don't. The finalised scale is a much shorter and captures the underlying structure without the redundancy. The goal is well under 20 items total across both acute and chronic. Although I am at the mercy of the analysis as to what the final number will be.

As such the current length isn't an accident. Starting wide and cutting based on real participant data is the only way to do this properly. But I'm fully aware that it makes the experience heavier than the final tool will be, and that's a trade-off I'm asking participants to accept to achieve high rigour.

I received feedback that some items felt unclear or hard to map onto their own experience. I want to be upfront that this is useful information. Items that don't sit naturally with athletes tend to be exactly the ones that don't load cleanly in factor analysis. So, they should be removed through this process naturally.

What comes after

Once the analysis is complete and the scale is reduced, there's one more round after this focused on validation, looking at concurrent validity (does the new scale correlate with established measures of mental fatigue) and test-retest reliability (does it produce stable results across time). I'll be writing this round up as a paper either way, and I'll come back here with a summary including which items survived and what the final scale looks like. Happy to answer questions in the comments on the methodology or mental fatigue research in general too.

For anyone who hasn't filled it in yet, the link is below. It takes 10-15 minutes to complete and will help us get 1 step closer to understanding how work impacts the sport we love.

https://derby.questionpro.eu/t/AB3vCJoZB3waVr

Cheers.

Cam

u/Same_Row_761 — 4 hours ago

How to prevent weight loss?

Don't know if this is the right subreddit for this, but here we go:

I’m a 20 year old male, 5'12" (around 6'0" / 183 cm). I used to weigh about 90 kg (198 lbs) when I started playing badminton a year ago, and now I’m down to around 58 kg (128 lbs). I’m trying to gain weight back to at least 75 kg (165 lbs), but I feel stuck and keep getting told I look very thin.

I play badminton regularly in extreme heat in Pakistan, where temperatures reach around 40°C (104°F), so I sweat a lot during training. My water intake is good, I drink around 5 to 6 liters daily.

I’ve already tried increasing my intake with things like banana shakes, boiled potatoes, and eggs every day. I did gain about 4 kg (9 lbs), but now I’m stuck at around 62 kg no matter how much I try to eat.

Looking for advice on a diet or strategy that can help me consistently gain weight and reach at least 75 kg.

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u/Impossible_Truth_239 — 11 hours ago

Why does BWF insist on 'KPH' rather than km/h?

Anyone else annoyed when the smash speed comes up and it shows the units as kph?

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u/aWiaWiaWi — 14 hours ago

How to manage the angle?

I recently bought an astrox attack 9 and at first,i loved the racket but now after 2 weeks,the racket is feeling overhyped and nanoray light 18i seemed to suit my style much better.

Anyways,whenever I smash I try to squeeze as hard as I can and rotate my wrist while holding the handshake grip but my smash always ends up in a drive or clear resulting in the shuttle going out.

I was able to make a better and consistent angle with a head light racket but is it mainly my technique that has to be improved?

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u/Elegant-Season5658 — 1 day ago

Mentally struggling with physical training

So I'm currently a professional junior player (16f) and I just struggle to run for my physicals. My strength is actually my power + fitness and I train on court physicals really really well and can do tough hour long biking sessions mentally fine. However when it comes to running, I just can't and I'm stuck at a pace that I shouldn't be tired doing at all, how do I get over this mental barrier?

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u/Corrupted_Gamez — 1 day ago

Apacs Z Ziggler Reborn Review

Having previously owned the Z Ziggler Limited Edition, the first thing I noticed was how much easier the Reborn is to use.
The Limited Edition had a slimmer shaft, which made it feel quicker but also less forgiving. Timing had to be spot on to get the best out of it. The Reborn feels more user-friendly. It has a more solid, stable feel and doesn’t punish slight mishits as much, making it easier to generate consistent power.
The racket is still fast through the air, so drives, defence and front-court play feel effortless, but I found it much easier to access power from the rear court compared with the Limited Edition.

I played badminton again and man table tennis is way better

No rage bait but table tennis is way more fun

Don’t need to exert yourself but still need good technique

I guess if you want a good workout or play doubles…..badminton is good but it gave me a massive headache

Can use different spin shots in table tennis ….while badminton is only smash and net shots

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u/hydraides — 1 day ago
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Interesting badminton physics: Shuttlecock velocity decay after smash and slice shots

Came across this paper on shuttle aerodynamics:
Shuttlecock velocity decay after smash and slice shots in badminton
Eric Collet, 2026
https://doi.org/10.1088/1402-4896/ae5361
A few interesting takeaways:

  • Shuttle loses about half its speed every ~3.35 m.
  • Some court distances for reference:
    • Back line to Net: ~7 m
    • Short service line to Net: ~2 m
    • Back line to Own short service line: ~5 m
    • Back line to Opponent's short service line: ~9 m
    • Back line to Opponent's back line: ~13 m
  • A 500 km/h smash from the back line is already around 250 ~125 km/h at the net, and about 125 ~30 km/h by the opponent's back line.
  • Attack: Shows the importance of taking the shuttle early. 
    • A huge smash from the back court is effectively similar to hitting a smash about half as fast from around mid court. Taking it even farther forward (around the service line) is effectively much faster again because the shuttle hasn't had time to bleed off as much speed.
  • Defense: Shows the importance of deep lifts.
    • Increasing the shuttle's flight from 10 m to 11.5 m increases the defender's reaction time from about 440 ms to 660 ms (~50% more time). Only 1.5 m farther, but a huge difference.
  • Slices (right-handed players): Normal slice gives the shuttle its natural counter-clockwise spin. Reverse slice initially spins it the opposite way. As the shuttle returns to its natural spin, some forward kinetic energy is transferred into rotation. As a result, reverse slices slow down more than normal slices, in addition to the deception.

Interesting seeing actual numbers behind common coaching advice like lift deeper, take the shuttle early, contact the shuttle as high and as far forward as possible etc. The paper also goes into the physics in much more detail, with some interesting graphs on shuttle speed decay, time of flight, slice vs. reverse slice, and feather vs. plastic shuttlecocks.
Edit: corrected some calculation mistakes I made

u/estavrionto — 2 days ago

Beginner mistake: a smash has to be powerful with steep angle.

When I play against intermediate level players, when they lose a point to my smash, they go: your smash is bad, it's not steep, I should be able to defend it. But then they keep on losing points to the same "bad" smash and become annoyed.

I think the most common misunderstanding from intermediate level players is that a smash has to always be 100% powered with a steep angle, but there're more than 1 version of "smash", higher level players don't just grind their teeth and go all-in on a smash, they often target difficult-to-defend areas, such as: body, right hip, racket shoulder, etc., these are much harder to defend compared to a straight forward smash.

Have you had the same experience? Keep losing to a "bad" smash? I'm actually very bad at defending smash that goes slightly above my right shoulder (racket shoulder), do you have any advice?

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u/linhhoang_o00o — 3 days ago

Whats your key to Consistency,patience and good shot quality?

I’ve always wondered what people go through to get their consistency/patience and goodshot quality, Share your experience here

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u/SpaceEasy4599 — 2 days ago

R/badminton's Shuttle-less Initiative

In light of recent development with Sony going discless, we at r/badminton now announce our shuttle-less initiative.

Instead of physical shuttles, players are now expected to bring augmented VR glasses along with a marked baton that is linked to their glasses. If the baton has haptic feedback, even better.

The court and nets will be marked with passive markers to aid the glasses' recognition of their placement. Ideally the software has linked everyone's VR glasses together and can simulate a shuttle in the VR space.

BWF, this might be a good time to start a partnership with AR glasses companies like Xreal This will present benefits in a number of ways, namely

  • a reduction in the number of birds killed each year for their feathers, W for animal lovers around the world
  • less racket breaking, as there is no racket to hit
  • Customize your racket the way you want it in the virtual space, no need to buy multiples of different looking ones
  • no more having to worry about string breaking
  • no more getting hit by your partner's racket if you accidentally wander into his swinging area, a baton will hopefully hurt less than a carbon fiber racket.
  • hopefully there will be more integration with apps able to analyze your stroke and accuracy fully in the virtual space.
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u/KKS_Hayashi — 3 days ago

Dating Badminton culture

I see a lot of couples who play badminton together. In my group of 16 players we have 2 couples. We play once a week and the games are usually light hearted and fun. No one takes it serious. Until recently where one of couples have started fighting with each other on the court. To the point where last week a guy threw his racket and it broke. I wonder if it actually affects their relationship? For the other players and for myself it’s very awkward and we don’t even know what to say. What do you guys think?

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u/Slow_Hovercraft14 — 3 days ago

Looking for badminton or tennis players in Brampton! 🏸🎾

Hey everyone!

I’m looking to get more active and would love to find people to play badminton or tennis with!
I live in Downtown Brampton and don’t mind driving 15–20 minutes for a good place to play.

I’m usually free Fridays and Saturdays.

A little about my experience:

Badminton: I’d say I’m around an intermediate level and would love to play regularly.
Tennis: I’ve never played before, but I’ve always wanted to learn. If anyone is patient enough to teach a complete beginner or is also just starting out, I’d love to join!

I’m looking for:

Friendly people who enjoy playing for fun, fitness, and improving
Singles or doubles
Regular games if we click

I’d also appreciate recommendations for:

Good badminton or tennis courts near downtown Brampton
Drop-in sessions, clubs, or leagues
WhatsApp, Discord, Facebook, or Meetup groups where people organize games.

If you’re interested or know someone who is, feel free to comment or send me a DM. Looking forward to meeting new people and getting into these sports!

Thanks! 😊

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u/krishasingh — 2 days ago

Feedback for my clears

Been playing since few months now, used to hold pan handle earlier hopefully it's fixed now 😂.

I have posted earlier too and got a lot of feedback for proper grip, pronation and a lot of things.

I feel better now just want opinions of you guys.

One thing I can still feel still lacking is hitting the shuttle a bit more up and keeping my elbow more up probably.

u/Anshu_Noah — 3 days ago

Most important stroke types--syntax (Australia) - machine learning project

Hi badminton fans,

I'm working on a machine learning project to develop a badminton auto-grader.

As part of the project I need to define the stroke categories that the model will consider. The only problem is I don't know much at all about badminton.

Could anybody help me to identify the stroke types considered 'significant'? This would be even more helpful if you're Australian, since I imagine terminology varies a little globally.

I've looked around a little and see huge variety in stroke categories recognised in datasets and training manuals.

If anybody could help me to identify which strokes are the most important definitions within my options here, including which can be sensibly combined without anyone feeling like the feedback becomes useless, that would be great!

For reference, I've been working off the ShuttleSet dataset, which contains these stroke categories:

net_shot return_net smash
clear lob wrist_smash
drive driven_flight back_court_drive
drop passive_drop defensive_return_lob
push rush defensive_return_drive
cross_court_net_shot short_service long_service

More specifically, I've been using a couple of collapsed variants of this dataset that identify strokes a bit more broadly:

ShuttleSet 14 strokes:

'net_shot', 'return_net', 'smash', 'wrist_smash',
'lob', 'clear', 'drive', 'drop',
'passive_drop', 'push', 'rush', 'cross_court_net_shot',
'short_service', 'long_service','net_shot', 'return_net', 'smash', 'wrist_smash',
'lob', 'clear', 'drive', 'drop',
'passive_drop', 'push', 'rush', 'cross_court_net_shot',
'short_service', 'long_service',

and ShuttleSet 12 strokes:

'net_shot', 'return_net', 'smash', 'lob',
'clear', 'drive', 'drop', 'push',
'rush', 'cross_court_net_shot', 'short_service', 'long_service','net_shot', 'return_net', 'smash', 'lob',
'clear', 'drive', 'drop', 'push',
'rush', 'cross_court_net_shot', 'short_service', 'long_service',

I could possibly use shots from another dataset, VideoBadminton, which describes the following:

Short Serve Cross Court Flight Lift
Tap Smash Block Drop Shot
Push Shot Transitional Slice Cut
Rush Shot Defensive Clear Defensive Drive
Clear Long Serve Smash
Flat Shot Rear Court Flat Drive Short Flat Shot

Again, if anybody could help, I'd very much appreciate it.

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u/IJustWantToClipBolts — 3 days ago

Weird sponge after restringing

I went to restring my racket and the guy added these two tiny little sponge pieces at the stem. The string is tightly holding onto it but I'm not sure if it will come off after a while. I am guessing this helps with tension but I'm not sure why and what it's for. What should I do with it?

u/Playful-Figure-1459 — 4 days ago

Smash technique tips for a beginner please

I've watched a lot of Youtube videos but can't seem to grasp the technique.

I think I'm supposed to 'whip' the head of the racket round so that after the trophy position, the head keeps rotating so it's behind my arm? When I try this the movement seems to complex and I end up slicing or mis-hitting.

My follow through I guess is wrong too, because it looks different to the pros. I just struggle to keep the face flat during follow-through unless I do the follow-through seen in the video.

u/mattyy1234 — 4 days ago

Need help with rotation in doubles

I'm having trouble positioning myself on the court, especially when I move to the front. Like idk where to position myself, because I can't see where my partner is unless I turn around. So I don't know if I'm supposed to stay at the front or go back to the sides.

I feel like I can coordinate a lot better when I am at the back, but not when I am at the front. Any tips or advice would be appreciated.

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u/miichan_v — 4 days ago

Don't sleep on the small stuff, your racket isn't the only thing that matters

Three years into badminton, and if I could go back and tell beginner-me one thing, it would be this: stop obsessing over the racket and pay equal attention to everything else in your kit.

Like, I spent my first year reading endless threads comparing rackets, completely ignoring my accessories, and it actually held my game back more than I realized.

Grip tape is the obvious one nobody talks about enough. Am still working on figuring the perfect one for me but it's cheap to replace constantly, so there's no excuse to play on a slick handle.

String tension matters too. I used to just trust whatever the shop set and never thought to track it myself until a coach said my shuttle control was inconsistent because my tension had drifted over months of play.

Then there are the accessories that feel like optional extras, until you need them, extra pairs of socks, proper wristbands that actually wick sweat during long rallies, a separate shoe bag to protect everything from the court grime.

Now I always have backups of small accessories so I’m never scrambling before a session running out at the worst times. I am thinking of buying this in bulk and have been checking out Alibaba and other places to see if I might save a bit.

None of this stuff is as fun as obsessing over a new racket, but honestly it adds up more than I expected. What's something small in your setup that ends up mattering way more than you’d expect?

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u/South4South — 5 days ago