u/IcyBalance8028

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Best moves that didn't make the show?

One that comes to mind for me is Todd telling Denise early on that at the final 4, no matter who won immunity, they would tie the vote and allow whoever wasn’t immune to make fire. He said Courtney would get taken regardless.

The reason I like this move so much is because he didn't approach her with the best deal in the world. If he told her she was guaranteed a spot in the top 3 and he would take her regardless, it would sound too good to be true and therefore not be believable. Coming up with a lie that isn't ideal but is still good enough to accept is a great way to convince people you are telling the truth.

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u/IcyBalance8028 — 1 day ago

Best moves that are never talked about?

Here are some that come to mind for me:

  • Drew nominating Diane at the final 6 of BB5. He did this to make it appear to the house that their showmance was over so that they would not be viewed as a pair. He deliberately does not give her a heads up so she will have a genuine emotional reaction to this. I think this is a really key move because Cowboy would have been evicted at 5 if the nominees stayed the same. I can't imagine a world in which Karen and Nakomis would be okay with keeping Drew next to Cowboy if they believed he was still working with Diane.
  • Kaela taking the credit for Olivia staying next to Jesse in BBCan6. At the start of the game, Kaela, Derek, and Jesse were basically on top of the house. During Hamza's HOH in week 3, Jesse and Olivia were nominated next to each other. Initially the plan was to evict Olivia, but the vote started to flip. When Kaela realizes the votes are flipping, she runs straight to Olivia and Ali and makes it seem like this was her doing. In reality, she had no part in the vote flipping, but she knew it was happening and it was better to benefit from the move than try to stop it. The people who were actually involved in making the flip happen were too busy gathering the numbers, giving Kaela the opportunity to swoop in and reap the rewards.
  • Adam completely destroying Ryan's game from final 5 onwards in BB9. First, he votes to save Natalie, and tells her that on her way out, locking in her jury vote. He made Ryan do the dirty work. Then at final 4, Ryan leaves him off the block, thinking Adam will evict Sheila. However, Adam takes out Sharon. Then Adam throws the final HOH to Ryan, making him have to be the one to take out Sheila.
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u/IcyBalance8028 — 3 days ago

Who would Amy have taken to the final two if she made it to the final 3?

I always thought Amy was taking Jason to the finals, though I don't know why. I've just seen it repeated a lot. However, I was watching Peridiam's videos on Danielle Reyes' BB3 game today and he said Amy stated she would have taken Danielle. Does anyone know the actual answer and can a source be provided? Thanks.

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u/IcyBalance8028 — 11 days ago

When each winner had the game won

  • Ashley: when she won the final HOH. Morgan was taking her if she had won and I think Morgan wins.
  • Chelsie: final 3. Both Cam and MJ were taking her and she beats both.
  • Jag: final 3. Both Bowie Jane and Matt were taking him to the end and he beats both. I can't imagine Felicia would have taken him to the end.
  • Taylor: when Monte won the final HOH. Turner would have taken Monte.
  • Xavier: after part 2 of the final HOH. Big D was extremely rude to Azah and she decided she was going to take Xavier because of that. He would have beaten her.
  • Cody: final 3. Both Nicole and Enzo would have taken him and he beats both.
  • Jackson: when Holly won part 2 of the final HOH.
  • Kaycee: this is a tricky one. Scottie originally said his jury vote came down to who won the final HOH, but he has changed his story since then. If we believe that was his real reason, it was when she won the final HOH. If we don't, she won when she won part 2 of the final HOH.
  • Josh: this is another tricky one. Christmas wanted Paul and Josh to be the final two. If she hypothetically won the final HOH, she would have taken Paul despite what she said on the BB22 feeds. So Josh won when he won part 2.
  • Nicole: this is another tricky one. Nicole would have beaten James in a jury vote. Da'Vonne said that James would have won but when the actual jury members were asked, it turned out that Nicole would have won 7-2. Da'Vonne also said Nicole had a chance at beating Cody in 22 which the other jurors also debunked, so I believe she just has bad reads on the jury like she does on the game. Nicole may have beaten Corey in a jury vote but I don't think so, so I think she won once he was evicted and she was in the final 3.
  • Steve: when he won the final HOH.
  • Derrick: possibly by the final 5. Frankie did say after his eviction in an interview that he would have taken Derrick to the end. In that interview he also says he was protecting Donny, so it seems to me that he was lying to be liked because they were his fellow Team America members. I don't know for sure. By the final 4, everyone was taking Derrick. Victoria said in an interview post-season that she would have cut Derrick because she felt betrayed once The Hitmen was revealed, but I don't believe that. I think she said that knowing in hindsight that it was stupid to take Derrick as he won. So I think Derrick won at the final 4, possibly 5.
  • Andy: when he won part 2 of the final HOH.
  • Ian: when he won part 2 of the final HOH.
  • Rachel: when Porsche won part 2 of the final HOH.
  • Hayden: final 3.
  • Jordan: I'm really not sure. Kevin was taking Jordan to the end so he had the big move of cutting Natalie, but I am not sure he beats her. Hopefully someone can help with this one.
  • Dan: when Memphis won part of the final HOH.
  • Adam: final 3.
  • Dick: when he won the final HOH.
  • Mike: when he won part 2 of the final HOH. Unless Erika was planning on cutting him. Someone can fact check me on this.
  • Maggie: when Ivette won the final HOH.
  • Drew: does he beat Diane? I don't know. At least by the time Cowboy won part 2, possibly sooner.
  • Jun: when she won part 2 of the final HOH.
  • Lisa: when she won the final HOH.
  • Will: when Nicole won the final HOH. It gets forgotten, but Will believed he was losing the jury vote regardless and planned on taking Monica.

For the Canadian winners:

  • Bayleigh: when she won part 2 of the final HOH.
  • Ty: when he won part 2 of the final HOH.
  • Kevin: some time after part 2 of the final HOH when he convinced Josh to take him.
  • Tychon: I've heard some stuff about the jury voting for whoever won the final HOH between him and Breydon. If that is the case, he won when he won that. If not, he won when he won part 2. He believes Tera would have beaten him.
  • Dane: when he won the final HOH.
  • Paras: Paras believes winning the final HOH was crucial to her win. Personally I think she won when Kaela won part 2.
  • Kevin: when he won the final HOH.
  • Nick and Phil: when Kelsey won part 2 of the final HOH.
  • Sarah: when Godfrey won the final HOH.
  • Jon: when he won the final HOH.
  • Jillian: when Topaz put the wrong key in.

For the spin-off winners:

  • Nicole: when she won the final challenge.
  • Miesha: when she won the final HOH.
  • Tamar: I'm actually not sure.
  • Marissa: when she won the final HOH.
  • Morgan: when she won the challenge against Justin at final 4.
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u/IcyBalance8028 — 20 days ago

Times where the jury voted for the less liked person to win?

I can definitely think of a lot of examples where individual jurors didn‘t vote for the person they liked the most, but have there been any times where a winner was less liked than the other finalist(s) and also won?

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u/IcyBalance8028 — 1 month ago

Stephenie says things in her exit press that very strongly indicate how players do in the game going forward. I personally wouldn’t listen or read anything from her if you haven’t already.

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u/IcyBalance8028 — 2 months ago