u/Impossible_Stand_104

Please inquirements from ornithologists on potential bird breeding project.

Hello, in the future I may be able to have access to materials and bird food much easier, and have thought to maybe do a long-term breeding project for birds, specifically button (king) quail, to try to make them less flighty and friendlier, and increase their hardiness in many different aspects. Please tell me if what I'm thinking of is possible, or parts of it, how long it would take, and what to expect if I do follow this.

Start with maybe 60 birds. Three groups, though groups may have different sections and not be all housed in the same enclosure.
Group A
Group B
Group C

In the first generation, after all birds hit adulthood, I would spend a few weeks getting to know the birds. I would tag each bird from each group with a number, and I would record what I noticed about each bird on a spreadsheet. I would then rate the birds. The birds get points for: Overall cuteness (5pt), friendlyness (10pt), flightyness (10pt) and extra points to any birds who get sick and recover, -points for any genetic issues like splayed leg, and the bird is automatically eliminated from breeding if it gets eggbound. This is just a draft and points might change and more variables might be added.

After rating each bird and finding the best options, I would take a few males from group A and a few females from group B and place each pair in their own enclosure, wait until each pair lays a decent amount of eggs, and incubate those eggs and hatch them. Then I would remove all the birds from group A and B (sell them to people or maybe have my own separate button quail colony from those removed) and sprinkle the newborn chicks evenly in the enclosures of A and B.

After they reach adulthood, I would again take a few weeks to record observations, but this time between groups B and C. After choosing my pairs I would again get some males from C and females from B and put them in their own enclosures, incubate eggs, and hatch them out, then remove all birds from B and C and put in the newborns. Then I would repeatedly do the same, alternating between breeding AB, BC, and CA.

A few questions:

  1. Are the traits I'm going to watch out for good, or are some impossible to domestically remove, and are there any I should add?
  2. Around how many generations would it take to see significant changes and have a line that could seriously become house pets in the near future?
  3. Is the alternation between breeding from AB BC and CA enough to prevent ANY visible or genetical inbreeding issues that could cause less hardiness or issues with birds without sacrificing loss of traits when bringing in new blood?
  4. Anything else you would like to say.

Thank you

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u/Impossible_Stand_104 — 2 days ago
▲ 3 r/quails

Come see

Have a look at my new youtube channel I'm making for quail. Also if anyone here is in California please have a look at my channel description for something that may interest you!
Sorry if this breaks rule 6, I'll remove if it does.

https://youtu.be/5YCiUoFwDiY

u/Impossible_Stand_104 — 3 days ago
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