Question About Indigenous Knowledge

I am in the field of Natural Resources, and something that comes up frequently in studying and discussion of plants, ecosystems, agriculture, and humans' interactions with the earth, is the knowledge that Indigenous peoples had and still have about these topics. I understand that there is obviously a stereotype that takes these ideas too far, but there are certainly practices and knowledge about the natural world that are far more sustainable than many of the current practices in the US. Some examples just to be clear about what I am talking about would include: techniques of agriculture and controlled burns, what plants grow well together, and the Forestry techniques of the Menominee. Additionally, while not related to sustainability, knowledge about foraging and how to prepare various plants as food such as syrup from maple trees, making sumac into a lemonade-like drink, and even popping corn.

My question is how should those like myself who are not Indigenous people approach these sorts of traditional knowledge? I see many people who are passionate about the natural world/foraging/gardening/etc. embrace and utilize many of these ideas, but given that many of these ideas are very tied to Indigenous cultures and sometimes spirituality (like with some of the food examples I provided), I wanted to inquire about how these should be approached. Should they be used as long as their source is acknowledged, should they be left alone to the cultures that created these practices? I would appreciate any replies and resources on this topic

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u/Infinite_Owl25 — 11 days ago
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Allegations against Queer Theory founding authors/response to viral video

There is a video from a lecture by Derrick Jensen which claims to demonstrate that founding authors of Queer Theory supported pedophilia. The video was popular online several years ago. I would appreciate a rebuttal or whether any of the information is true for any of his points, either specifically or as a whole. Below I will link the videos I am referencing as well as some of the claims.

Edit: Fixed formatting and wording on the post

Here is a video from the lecture itself https://youtu.be/Cb3-tlyuhVo?si=Q5hrCXNw-KVdEGEL

Here is a video from a popular far-right channel agreeing with this argument (there's added commentary which can be ignored, but there are some quotations in the video which are added to what is said in the original) https://youtu.be/70AArSfwTLw?si=2LMWv3jh2vjy_z9S

Main claims:

(I have transcribed the quotes based upon how they were read and the subtitles, so there may be inaccuracies. I also typed this on my phone so there may be general typing errors.)

Michel Foucault

Jensen claims that Foucault "argued for the eradication of age of consent laws, as in down to infants". The second video I linked brings up the 1977 petition to the French parliament, which I am assuming is what Jensen is referencing.

Gayle Rubin

Jensen claims that "50%" of the "Founding document" of Queer Theory (which I am assuming is Thinking Sex, as Wikipedia presents it as one of the most important works to Queer Theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayle_Rubin) is a defense of pedophilia. He goes on to provide a quote "Like communists and homosexuals in the 1950's, boy lovers are so stigmatized that it is difficult to find defenders of their civil liberties, let alone for their erotic orientation", and he also says that Gayle Rubin "compared pedophilia to a preference for spicy food". The second video I linked above also gives a quote from a Newsmax article which states "UC-Santa Cruz Professor Gayle Rubin calls the government’s crackdown on child molesters “a savage and undeserved witch hunt.” Intolerance of pedophilia, she claims, has “more in common with ideologies of racism than with true ethics.”" (https://www.newsmax.com/pre-2008/academics-defend-pedophilia/2004/09/23/id/680642/)

Patrick Califia

Jensen provides a quotation, and the second video I linked above also adds a connection between Patrick Califia and NAMBLA (the North American Man/Boy Love Association, a group that supports pedophilia), as well as quoting this list of concerns about Patrick Califia speaking at a women's health conference (https://www.psucollegian.com/archives/speaker-didnt-coincide-with-women-and-health/article_fa6a710d-fcab-5e45-b9e3-b5cc0399e1d7.html) which states that Patrick Califia also wrote an erotic story which involved pedophilia.

Judith Butler

Jensen provides a quotation from Judith Butler regarding incest, and the second video I linked adds more quotes on the same topic.

Jensen also briefly references Allen Ginsberg and an audience member adds Hakim Bey to the list. According to Wikipedia both supported NAMBLA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Ginsberg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Lamborn_Wilson)

The second video I linked above also has a clip at the end which seems to reiterate the points about Michel Foucault and Patrick Califia.

u/Infinite_Owl25 — 12 days ago

Question About the Appropriation of Indigenous Cultures- the Native Hawaiian Word 'Wiki'

Appropriation of Indigenous cultures through names and imagery is obviously very prevalent, as evidenced by the post I just happened to see on this subreddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianCountry/comments/1u5jc32/random\_uses\_of\_native\_tribe\_names\_for\_products/) before making this post.

I wanted to ask about a particular example, which is the Native Hawaiian word Wiki. This isn't a name of a tribe like in the post linked above, but it is still an Indigenous word that is used very commonly on the Internet: Wikipedia, 'Wiki' as a general term for a database, subreddit Wikis like this subreddit has, etc.

How are usages of Indigenous words like this viewed by Indigenous people themselves?

As a note, I have made a similar post in r/NativeHawaiian , but I thought I would ask here has well

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u/Infinite_Owl25 — 2 months ago

Sacred Places and Burial Sites in Parks

For context, I am a white person who lives in Wisconsin and I am in the field of natural resources.

I frequently visit a number of parks across the state of Wisconsin; city parks, county parks, state parks, state wildlife areas, etc. (not any National Parks but the question would still apply). I have been thinking about the fact that a number of these types of locations are sacred sites and/or have historic burial sites located on their grounds from the Native American people who lived here in the past or currently. My question is what is the general sentiment among Native Americans about these locations now being recreational parks for the general public?

As an example, "Devil's Lake" is a state park in Wisconsin which according to what I've read holds spiritual significance for the Native Ho-Chunk people, and also contains effigy mounds, with the modern English name of the park being a very inaccurate name given to it by settlers (sources: https://devilslakewisconsin.com/learning-center/why-is-it-called-devils-lake/ https://dnr.wisconsin.gov/topic/parks/devilslake/history). This state park is now one of, if not the most visited state park in Wisconsin, where people hike, camp, and swim. I have hiked and swam there before but I am wondering if recreation at a site like this is disrespectful?

There are many outdoor locations that I think this is a relevant question for, and I am sure there are many buildings that were built on sacred sites or burial sites as well. I know that there are probably different opinions and different answers to my question, and I appreciate any replies.

I apologize if any of the words or phrasing I used were incorrect, please let me know if that is the case!

Edit: Changed the phrasing for a sentence

u/Infinite_Owl25 — 3 months ago

Discouraged About Boycotting

I want to start by acknowledging the fact that my difficulties in boycotting are nothing compared to the actual suffering that Palestinians are experiencing. I live in the US, so I strongly believe that I should use my situation to support Palestine and other people who are suffering however I can.

I have recently been frustrated by the fact that complicit companies are so difficult to avoid. There are obvious ways that it makes it more difficult to find products, like not being able to use large platforms like Amazon, eBay, or Facebook, but also there are entire categories of products which are essentially all complicit, like electronics. Many of the complicit companies also own large amounts of brands and products, which makes it very difficult to find products that aren't connected. It seems like generally the advice on this subreddit and on the BDS subreddit is to buy secondhand products, but most of the major secondhand platforms are complicit too, like eBay and Facebook as I mentioned above. Additionally, there are some people I have seen comment (on this subreddit and maybe the BDS subreddit as well, I do not remember), who say that even buying secondhand is problematic since it gives resale value to products from complicit companies.

I think one of the other things I have had difficulty with is whether the purpose of boycotting is specifically to create change, or if it is to avoid my own personal compliance. For example, in a previous post here (https://www.reddit.com/r/BoycottIsrael/comments/1rq8ayl/how_much_of_a_connection_should_we_be_concerned/) I asked about the fact that even libraries are still involved with buying products from complicit companies. I don't know what to do in situations like that, since my checking out items from the library probably has little to no effect on their giving money to companies like Blackstone​, but I also feel wrong doing so knowing that connection is there.

If anyone has advice on these topics, I would greatly appreciate it​.

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u/Infinite_Owl25 — 3 months ago

Personal Divestment

Many of the main companies that are popular to invest in are complicit in the genocide, as well as numerous other human rights violations. What is the best alternative? Are there specific investment funds or ways to invest that avoid these complicit companies?

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u/Infinite_Owl25 — 3 months ago
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What to do if you are unsure of a company

Books and materials for my college are most easily purchased through eCampus.com, since they have all of the products in one place. However I have not found anything about whether or not this is a safe company, as it is not on Disoccupied.com or Gaza.nu, and I cannot easily find anything about their investors or owners. All I can find is "Original investors of eCampus.com included Wendy's founder Dave Thomas, Long John Silver's founder James Patterson and George F. Valassis, creator of the free-standing insert which revolutionized the coupon industry." from their website (eCampus.com/about-us) and that "[Matt] Montgomery is one of a group of investors who purchased the company for $2.5 million in 2001" (https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/bookselling/article/68261-ecampus-continues-to-expand.html)

What should I do in a case like this where I am not sure about this company?

u/Infinite_Owl25 — 3 months ago
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Personal Divestment

Many of the main companies that are popular to invest in are complicit in the genocide, as well as numerous other human rights problems. What is the best alternative? Are there specific investment funds or ways to invest that avoid these complicit companies?

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u/Infinite_Owl25 — 3 months ago

I am looking for brands that sell basic clothing items (like plain t-shirts, shorts, pants, socks, underwear) that are inexpensive, if possible. It seems like every major clothing brand is connected to Israel, and I have only seen a few alternatives listed on sites like Disoccupied, most of which seem to be on the more expensive side.

The two brands that seemed like possibilities that were listed as safe alternatives by Disoccupied were Honest Basics and Pact, but it seems that Honest Basics does not ship to the US anymore, and I saw comments saying that Pact has inconsistent quality. I know that thrifting is usually the safest option, but some clothing items I would only want to buy new for the sake of hygiene.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thank you!

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u/Infinite_Owl25 — 4 months ago
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I am looking for brands that sell basic clothing items (like plain t-shirts, shorts, pants, socks, underwear) that are inexpensive, if possible. It seems like every major clothing brand is connected to Israel, and I have only seen a few alternatives listed on sites like Disoccupied, most of which seem to be on the more expensive side.

The two brands that seemed like possibilities that were listed as safe alternatives by Disoccupied were Honest Basics and Pact, but it seems that Honest Basics does not ship to the US anymore, and I saw comments saying that Pact has inconsistent quality. I know that thrifting is usually the safest option, but some clothing items I would only want to buy new for the sake of hygiene.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thank you!

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u/Infinite_Owl25 — 4 months ago