u/Interesting-Gold-425

The Dark Mirrors of MDZS: Parallels Between Jiang Cheng & Su She and Wei Wuxian & Wen Zhuliu

Hey everyone,
I’ve been thinking a lot about the character foils in Mo Dao Zu Shi, and I noticed some really striking, dark similarities between two sets of characters that we don't usually group together. MXTX loves using foils, and these connections really highlight how easily good intentions or tragic flaws can warp a person.
1. Jiang Cheng and Su She: Consumed by Jealousy and Unacknowledged Debts
When you look closely, Jiang Cheng and Su She are two sides of the same coin. Their entire lives and motivations are driven by deep-seated inferiority complexes and jealousy toward a superior peer.
The Objects of Jealousy: Su She spends his life bitter and envious of Lan Wangji, trying desperately to mimic him while resenting his effortless perfection. Jiang Cheng, similarly, spends his life in the shadow of Wei Wuxian, forever feeling inadequate as a sect leader because he can never match WWX's natural genius.

The Life Debts Repaid in Blood: Both owed immense life debts to their benefactors, and both repaid those debts with betrayal and blood.
Su She owed his life to Wei Wuxian after the Water Ghoul incident at Biling Lake.

Jiang Cheng owed his life (and core) to the Wen Siblings (Wen Ning and Wen Qing). He also owed a massive debt to WWX. Even if JC didn't know about the golden core transfer until the very end, in his own POV at the time, he believed WWX sacrificed his own chance to meet Baoshan Sanren so JC could get his core restored.

The Ultimate Betrayal: Neither of them ever truly acknowledged these massive spiritual and physical debts. Instead, they both had a direct hand in orchestrating the downfall and deaths of the very people who saved them.

Note: I acknowledge that Jiang Cheng originally got captured by the Wens to save Wei Wuxian. It was a massive sacrifice. However, that one good act does not erase the years of injustice, persecution, and hostility he later directed at his own shixiong.
2. Wei Wuxian and Wen Zhuliu: Fierce Loyalty to a Fault
This parallel is a bit more uncomfortable but highly fascinating. In their own eyes, both Wei Wuxian and Wen Zhuliu are men bound by a profound sense of debt to their respective sect leaders—a loyalty that automatically extended to the next generation.
Protecting the Offspring:
Wen Zhuliu owed a life debt to Wen Ruohan. Because of this, he compromised his own morality to protect and serve Wen Chao, executing horrific orders just to keep his master's spoiled, cruel son safe.

Wei Wuxian felt an unpayable debt of gratitude to Jiang Fengmian for taking him off the streets. To repay this, WWX gave up his golden core, his reputation, and ultimately his life to protect Jiang Cheng and the Jiang sect.

The Core Melter vs. The Yiling Patriarch: Both became feared, monstrous figures in the cultivation world primarily because they acted as the ultimate shields for their chosen sides. They both chose a path of absolute devotion over conventional morality, though WWX did it to protect the innocent, while Zhuliu did it out of rigid, blind obligation.

What are your thoughts?
Do you think Wen Zhuliu serves as a warning of what Wei Wuxian could have become if the Jiangs had been as villainous as the Wens? And does Jiang Cheng's behavior toward WWX make him closer to Su She than he’d ever care to admit?
Would love to hear your thoughts and any extra parallels you might see!

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u/Interesting-Gold-425 — 15 hours ago

I wrote my first fanfic on ao3

Title: Imagine Discovering Your Students Are Literal Legends

Summary: The cultivation world reveres Hanguang-jun and the Yiling Laozu as ancient legends—two cultivation gods whose tragic love story ended in bloodshed and death thousands of years ago.
During the Cloud Recesses lectures, Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian lock eyes for the first time... and suddenly remember that they are those very legends, reborn at last.
While WangXian quietly resumes their marriage as if no time has passed, everyone around them is left wondering why the famously stoic Second Jade of Lan and the Yunmeng troublemaker are acting like soulmates who have loved each other for a thousand lifetimes.

- can you guys give me review?? Be honest please.

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u/Interesting-Gold-425 — 3 days ago

Fics with this trope??

WWX truly dies.
Is naturally reincarnated as a baby.
Lives an entirely new childhood.
Regains his memories years later (rather than immediately).
Reunites with LWJ.
Gets a happy WangXian ending.

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u/Interesting-Gold-425 — 4 days ago
▲ 29 r/MDZSFanfictions+1 crossposts

Are there a fanfic like this??

Where instead of being summon to mxy body, wwx gets reincarnated after dying. And regain his previous life memories after certain period of time.
Wangxian happy ending too.

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u/Interesting-Gold-425 — 4 days ago

Misunderstanding between wwx and jc

I can never understand how some people convert everything jc do to wwx in his both life as misunderstanding. There was no misunderstanding , jc knew what he was doing and wwx knew what he was doing. I really think after all that happened it really is healthy to no reconcile wwx and jc. They were totally different person. In morals , character, talent, and everything. I strongly believe if wwx and jc didn’t grow up together wwx wouldn’t have liked jc even as a friend.

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u/Interesting-Gold-425 — 23 days ago

Sharing fanfics

https://archiveofourown.org/works/26961298
My Next Life as a Bunny
shorimochi
Summary:
During the thirteen years of his death, Wei Wuxian did not just cease to nothing. He is in fact, reincarnated...
 
...into a bunny. Not just any bunny, but bunny-shaped food.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/58358035
Hanguang-Jun and His Beloved Pet Rabbit
96qutie
Summary:
A gentle touch stroked his back, and Wei Ying stiffened in surprise. He looked up to find pale-gold eyes staring down at him intensely.
He gulped.
“Are you hurt?” The young cultivator asked in a soft voice, as if he expected an answer— even though he was already prodding Wei Ying’s ears and legs to see for himself. When he didn’t find evidence of injury he seemed to relax. “Are you frightened?”
If Wei Ying were human, he would have blushed and tried to crack a joke to hide it. As a rabbit, he could only kick his feet like a shy toddler.
“Wangji? I heard a commotion. Is everything alright?”
With the swiftness of a child being caught up past their bedtime, Wei Ying was shoved inside a billowing sleeve.
“Mn.”

https://archiveofourown.org/works/81649951
time after time
glitteringmoonlight
Summary:
Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian had been on a simple trip when they had heard about people going missing in the town they stopped at. During the course of the investigation, they had realized that the culprits had mistakenly formed a time travel array. Somehow, the ensuing fight had resulted in them winding up in the array just as it was activated on its own.
Or, 3 potential points in the past wangxian could have landed at during the war and the 1 time they landed even earlier

http://archiveofourown.org/works/16635728
a stone to break your soul, a song to save it
rikke
Summary:
When the entire cultivation world turns against Wei Wuxian, Jiang Cheng comes up with a plan to save him and arranges a marriage between his brother and the Second Jade of Lan,

https://archiveofourown.org/works/24130894
Transcend
covalentbonds
Summary:
A fox spirit curses Wei Wuxian and he transforms into a rabbit. This story isn't about that.
“I cannot believe that the previous generation gathered and instead of collectively proposing to him by laying on his feet..they decided to fight him!” A Baling Ouyang disciple said, disgruntled, by the sheer tragedy.
“....He was a demonic cultivator with multiple sins to his—
“The only sin he's committed is that face.” He interrupted, somehow managing to be both love sick and defensive.
(Or, Wei Wuxian gets his original body back and everyone is thirsty)

https://archiveofourown.org/works/48370636
The Line Between Good and Evil
Dandesamm
Summary:
Right after the celebration of the successful siege against Yiling Laozu Wei Wuxian, suddenly time reverses. Back to the Sunshot Campaign.
Cultivation World: "....." Uh.Oh
Wei Wuxian: "Ha-Ha"
 
You go play your own Sunshot Campaign Game*, but I, Wei Wuxian, will quit!*
 
Lan Wangji: "Seconded. Hanguang-Jun shall also delete his account."

https://archiveofourown.org/works/63636949
Revenge of Yiling Laozu
Muggle_Diary
Summary:
At death, Wei Ying comes to realize that everything he did was futile. He offered kindness and love to the world and all he received in return was hate and isolation. When the opportunity comes, he goes back in time and takes revenge on the world

https://archiveofourown.org/works/72741786
Mirror of future
Limiliti_1407
Summary:
A Mdzs reaction fic. The parent generation reacts to the bleak future, forcing them to make some decisions that changed the future.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/45212008
Truth Will Out (when caught on video) - End_OTW_Racism!
KizuKatana
Summary:
A night-hunt goes wrong, and Wei Wuxian is scapegoated for the death of the Jiang Sect Leader and the destroyed core of the Jiang Sect Heir. As punishment, his core is taken and given to Jiang Cheng, and he is stripped of his cultivation credentials and expelled from the sect.
What everyone forgot was that Wei Wuxian was wearing the standard issue body camera that each cultivator wore on training missions and high-risk night-hunts. Struggling to make ends meet, Wei Wuxian finds his way to Caiyi Town with the doctor who performed the surgery, a partial core still secretly in place. His application to work at Cloud Recesses is summarily rejected by the hard-edged Second Jade of Lan after an unfortunate initial encounter.
But things change when someone hacks into the Jiang systems and releases the footage of what happened.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/17896520
Atlas
etymologyplayground
Summary:
"Eh! 'Little brother,' what!" Wei WuXian says, mock-outraged. "I'm thirty-five!" (Sort of. He was born thirty-five years ago, anyway.) "You must be, what, twenty-five tops?"
"Nooo," Xie Lian says, smiling. "I'm eight hundred years old."
"You don't look a day over four hundred," Wei WuXian says. "Seriously, how old are you?"
"Seriously, I'm eight hundred years old," Xie Lian tells him.
--
Lan WangJi had a lot of time to pray to different gods while Wei WuXian was dead. One of them was Hua Cheng.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/28082238
a tide in two seas
occultings (microcomets)
Summary:
A midnight train, two unexpected encounters, and a rift in spacetime.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/28015296
blackwater woods
Reverie (cl410)
Summary:
The problem, Wei Ying reflected, was that, regardless of his ratty robes and threadbare shoes, Lan Zhan was just too damn pretty to be overlooked.
It made traveling unnoticed impossible. Worse, Lan Zhan didn’t even notice. He only cast an icy glare at those who wandered too close, forever mistrustful of strangers who dared approach him-- or worse, approach Wei Ying. He acted as though he expected someone to snatch Wei Ying right off the street.
To be fair, it had happened once or twice. 

https://archiveofourown.org/works/39199467
Honesty is the Best Policy (But it Scares the Living Hell Out of Me)
Elpie (Horribibble)
Summary:
The rules are clear, and also written directly onto the cliff face.
You genuinely cannot miss them.
So Wangji says, “You are the most beautiful person I have ever seen, but I am required to punish you.”
And then realizes exactly what it is that seems to have gone wrong.
-
Or right, when you consider the cosmic implications of running into your soulmate at sixteen years old and immediately threatening to have them spanked for breaking the rules.
(An AU in which you cannot lie in the presence of your soulmate. And this may or may not give Wei Ying hives.)

https://archiveofourown.org/works/34530556
The Best I Can
Zephyr (ZephyrAndTheSilverfish)
Summary:
‘Have you heard? Hanguang-jun cut ties with the Lan Sect. Stole a child and ran off into the night.’
In which Wei Wuxian is horribly confused by the world he comes back to and can’t help but be drawn to Lan Wangji once more. Lan Jingyi, for his part, is deeply disappointed by the world he grew up in and just wants to see his best friend again.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/59282266

Wei Ying just wants to be with his husband!

Acristina084

Summary:

It has to be Nie Huaisang, he thinks. What the hell is he doing this time...? Or Maybe it's not Nie Huaisang, but he can't help but feel like he is. Wei Wuxian thinks he should throw his sword on Nie Huaisang's shoulder as soon as I manage to find him, let's see if he still finds it fun to get him out of his husband's arms.

O

Sect leaders perform an invocation ritual during the campaign to bring down the sun, and thus attract a powerful immortal to help them win the war against the Wen.

The immortal they summon is not exactly the expected one since he is not even someone of his time but things finally end well... for most.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/55217905

I lost my heart, can I have yours?

Acristina084

Summary:

Wei Ying begins her first day at the University. With a sigh, he reminds himself that life is not easy, he has always known it and although the beginning of his first class strongly emphasizes the hard world in which he finds himself, the end of the day does not turn out to be so bad, not when Lan Laoshi is there for him.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/47222140

What reason is there to live?

Acristina084

Summary:

Sometimes I have visions of a cheerful and singing person, a free spirit that fills my heart with a feeling too beautiful, too warm; I feel that my soul trembles at the thought of her, as if her soul called mine, as if the universe claimed our union... Maybe in another life, maybe in another universe my soul was not alone, maybe it wasn't just me. There's something I'm missing... Two halves of the same being.

Then everything fades and I find myself again in the middle of this war with a thousand people who follow me, support me but, even so I feel... Alone, empty.

There's something I'm missing, someone.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/34842550
Never Again
Hauntcats
Summary:
Wen Qing finds herself back in the past right when she is removing Wei Ying's core. She changes her mind and changes the future.
 
Or Wen Qing and Wei Ying take no prisoners.
(Not Jiang Cheng friendly - if you don't like that, please don't read it.)

https://archiveofourown.org/works/59157619
An Unforeseen Shift
Remma3760
Summary:
Wei Wuxian found a resentful sword deep in the bowels of a famed beast. He took it. That turned out to be fortunate since, it would seem, the sword had more than one purpose. That sword was the key to their escape from certain death trapped in the cave of the Xuanwu of Slaughter.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/53807113

Ceasefire

Acristina084

Summary:

―You are so cold, Er-gege, you hurt the heart of this poor man... Ah! The question...― his breathing becomes irregular ―the point is that I always thought you hated me. And I was frustrated to know that Ah! Gods... All my attempts to establish a friendship with you had been in vain... At least until that... - a trembling sigh - until a moment ago.

O

In which Lan WangJi does something impulsive and everything changes from there... For worse or for good.

If you all have some good fanfic then drop the link🥰

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u/Interesting-Gold-425 — 29 days ago

Does everyone forget that wwx indirectly rejected lwj in xuanyu turtle cave??

Why does everyone act like lwj not proposing to wwx early is crime?? Do no one remember that in xuanyu cave wwx said something like “ don’t worry I dont like men in that way”. How can lwj propose after that. For our wifi it was not much important words but for lwj who have already written wangxian for him and completely aware that he is in love with this man and that man told him “he don’t like men” isn’t that is indirect rejection for lwj??

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u/Interesting-Gold-425 — 2 months ago

I just had a thought. Wwx was lwj’s first priority and only choice but is it same for wwx??
If war didn’t happen and everyone at lotus pier is still alive, would wwx still choose lwj or after the war if wen remnants were leave alone like the agreement would wwx then choose lwj or even during burial mounds settlement days if cultivation world leave them alone then would he choose him?? TBH I am a bit confused.

I am saying “choose” not “love”. It is already hinted in novel that he does have feelings for lwj in his first life.

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u/Interesting-Gold-425 — 2 months ago
▲ 15 r/MDZSFanfictions+2 crossposts

Fanfic author write a fanfic for ke please 🥹🥹

a fic where lwj is heavily injured and wwx in hasten writing teleportation talisman to arrive infirmary faster, but accidentally time travel them both to carp tower where Jin jixun is forcing lan brothers to drink. there wwx shows everyone their future.

bonus: wwx is pregnant at that time too. just a month or two along.

if you can write please write. ✍️

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u/Interesting-Gold-425 — 8 days ago