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U.S. Bank reported “Checking Account Fraud” to EWS after legitimate ACH — $4,010 also still not returned

Looking for advice from anyone familiar with ACH, bank risk departments, or Early Warning Services.

I sent my daughter $4,010 from my Chase business account to her U.S. Bank personal account through an authorized ACH transfer. The money was mine and was intended for her. There was a name mismatch in the ACH information, because it was sent as an "external transfer" which triggered U.S. Bank’s risk review.

U.S. Bank ultimately closed her accounts and returned all her other funds, but withheld the $4,010.

Chase attempted to recover it and had me sign an indemnification agreement, but the recovery was unsuccessful.

We filed CFPB and OCC complaints. On July 29, U.S. Bank finally stated in writing:

“Since we were unable to verify the remaining funds of $4,010, we are in the process of returning these funds to the originating financial institution.”

They said the bank-to-bank process can take months. Chase still hasn't received the money, and it's almost 4 months.

We also obtained my daughter’s Early Warning Services report and discovered U.S. Bank reported “Checking Account Fraud.”

There was no unauthorized transaction. I initiated the ACH, owned the funds and intended them for my daughter. She has now disputed the fraud reporting directly with EWS, and that dispute is still pending. U.S. Bank separately told the CFPB that it considers its EWS reporting accurate but did not explain what supposedly constituted fraud.

My questions:

  1. Can returning an ACH to the originating bank legitimately take months after the receiving bank says the return is already “in process”?
  2. Should there eventually be an ACH trace/reference number Chase can use to locate the return?
  3. Has anyone successfully disputed a “Checking Account Fraud” EWS entry arising from an authorized transaction/name mismatch?
  4. What would a bank normally need to substantiate that type of EWS fraud reporting?

I understand U.S. Bank can make its own decision about whether to maintain an account. My concern is where the $4,010 is and why a legitimate, authorized transaction resulted in a “Checking Account Fraud” EWS report.

Would especially appreciate input from anyone with experience in ACH/deposit operations, bank fraud/risk, or EWS disputes.

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u/Internal_Air4096 — 1 day ago
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U.S. Bank closed my daughter’s accounts after legitimate ACH, still hasn’t returned $4,010, and reported “Checking Account Fraud” to EWS

My daughter has been dealing with an unbelievable situation with U.S. Bank for 3.5 months, and I’m posting because I’ve now found several other people on Reddit with surprisingly similar experiences. I’m hoping someone who has been through this can tell me how it ultimately ended.

I sent my daughter $4,010 from my Chase account using Chase’s external ACH transfer feature. The transfer was completely legitimate and authorized by me and was intended for my daughter.

The problem appears to have started because the ACH arrived at U.S. Bank with sender/name information that did not match the name on my daughter’s account. From everything we have been able to determine, this name mismatch triggered U.S. Bank’s risk review.

U.S. Bank froze her accounts and ultimately decided to close both her personal and business accounts.

We spent countless hours calling U.S. Bank trying to explain that this was simply a legitimate transfer from a father to his daughter. Different representatives gave us different explanations, and the customer-facing representatives seemed to have very little access to whatever the risk/back-office department was actually doing.

Eventually, U.S. Bank returned the other money in the accounts by cashier’s checks — approximately $26,000 from the business account and $275 of other funds from the personal account.

But they did not return the $4,010 ACH.

Her final U.S. Bank statement shows the $4,010 being removed from the account, but the money did not come to us and did not return to my Chase account.

We filed complaints with both the CFPB and OCC.

I also contacted Chase as the originating bank and tried to get the ACH recalled/returned. Chase eventually had me go into a branch and sign an indemnification/recovery form in an attempt to recover the $4,010.

About a month later, the Chase branch manager told me the request had been rejected and that there was nothing further the branch could do.

Then things became even more confusing.

I spoke with U.S. Bank’s Risk Department and was told that the $4,010 had not been returned because U.S. Bank was waiting for Chase to respond to paperwork they had sent.

I have contacted Chase multiple times, and nobody I have spoken with there has been able to identify any outstanding paperwork or request from U.S. Bank.

We then obtained my daughter’s Early Warning Services (EWS) consumer report.

That is when we discovered that U.S. Bank had reported her with the contribution reason:

“Checking Account Fraud.”

This was shocking to us.

There was no fraud. The $4,010 was my money. I authorized the transfer. It was intended for my daughter. Neither of us has ever claimed the transaction was unauthorized, and there was no stolen money involved.

As far as we can determine, the entire situation originated from the name information associated with the ACH not matching the name on the receiving account.

We have now formally disputed the “Checking Account Fraud” reporting directly with Early Warning Services. That dispute is still pending and EWS has not yet given us a decision.

Separately, we filed a new CFPB complaint against U.S. Bank specifically raising the EWS reporting and the unresolved $4,010, and we provided supporting documentation including the EWS report and the final U.S. Bank statement.

U.S. Bank has now responded to that CFPB complaint.

Regarding the EWS reporting, U.S. Bank said it reviewed the issue and determined that the information it reported was accurate.

However, they did not explain what fraud supposedly occurred or what factual basis justified reporting my daughter for “Checking Account Fraud.”

Regarding the $4,010, U.S. Bank finally made a much more specific statement in writing. They said that because they were unable to verify the remaining $4,010, they are:

“in the process of returning these funds to the originating financial institution.”

They also stated that this is a bank-to-bank process that can take months to complete.

So that is where we are now.

3.5 Months after this began:

U.S. Bank says in writing that it is returning the $4,010 to Chase, but Chase still has not received it.

Our OCC complaint also still shows “Review in Process.”

And we are still waiting for EWS to decide the separate dispute over U.S. Bank’s “Checking Account Fraud” reporting.

Since this happened, I have found several other Reddit posts describing U.S. Bank customers having legitimate deposits flagged, accounts closed, and funds held for weeks or months while branches and customer service were unable to get clear answers from the risk/back-office department.

That is why I’m posting here.

Has anyone experienced this specifically with a legitimate ACH transfer or check deposit?

If U.S. Bank said it was returning your money to the originating bank, how long did the bank-to-bank return actually take?

I’m especially interested in hearing from anyone who was reported by U.S. Bank to Early Warning Services as “Checking Account Fraud.”

Did you dispute it with EWS? Did EWS remove or correct it? If so, what finally worked?

I have kept the U.S. Bank letters, statements, Chase documentation, CFPB responses, OCC complaint information and EWS report. I am also considering speaking with a consumer/FCRA attorney because I am particularly concerned about the long-term consequences to my daughter of being reported for “Checking Account Fraud” when there was no fraudulent transaction.

If anyone has gone through something similar with U.S. Bank, I would really appreciate hearing how your case ended, how long it took to get your money back, and what happened with any EWS reporting afterward.

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u/Internal_Air4096 — 10 days ago