Estuve viendo recientemente las ideas de espinoza como la sustancio y el Deus dice Natura y me hizo preguntar si solo le cambiamos el nombre de dios a universo sus premisas axiomas y metafísica encaja con el ateismo o cual es su opinión de espinoza
Hi, I'm very young. I went to an Adventist school and started to 'believe'. I'm currently in secular therapy because I had hadephobia, but I have questions for this subreddit because I still have doubts about taking the next step. For example, how do you deal with debates against major figures like John Lennox or William Lane Craig? How are you so confident in your stance? How do you deal with 'True Christianity,' and why the name? How did you become atheists, why are you atheists, and what about the debates? If both sides constantly refute each other, it gets confusing. Sometimes I even ask myself if we actually deserve hell, and I keep wondering if our suffering is truly our own responsibility and if it's somehow justifiable. It’s terrifying because when I suffer and complain, they just dismiss me as being 'angry at God' or they use theology itself to justify my pain.
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I also feel that religions invalidate how I feel. I’ve been through very heavy moments where I felt that my suffering was justified by their religion, that the blame fell on me, and that I couldn’t even complain because they use a logic I simply cannot fight from an emotional standpoint. I need something—that spark—to stop believing without any lingering doubts. I mean, I’m agnostic and all, but I want to take that final step, and I wonder if my way of thinking is valid or not. I don’t consider myself a militant atheist and I have no interest in being one, but I am well-informed.
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Still, sometimes I have doubts regarding figures like Alex O'Connor, or arguments claiming that atheists are 'cheating' because God is outside this realm, so the burden of proof shouldn't fall on believers. Why is that argument refuted to you? Why does it seem like atheism sometimes falters or avoids those points in subreddits like r/DebateReligion? What do you think about apologetics and theology? Sometimes I browse the 'True Christianity' subreddit and it makes me feel quite sad. So, what are your strongest arguments? How is it that despite these robust, monstrous intellectual frameworks, you still remain comfortable in your atheism? [1]
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I should also mention that I've spent some time in the r/exchristian subreddit, but I feel that this specific community (r/TrueAtheism) will provide a more intellectual response to my doubts. Finally, how do you deal with believers who label atheists as 'intellectually arrogant' or prideful? And how do you personally handle the bad or morally concerning verses and labels found in the Bible?"
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Hi everyone, thank you for reading. I am in a very dark place right now and desperately need some help and validation.
I’m young, and I attend a Seventh-day Adventist school where absolutely everyone is a believer. I am the only atheist/agnostic there. Everything was fine until I made the mistake of revealing my lack of belief. Since then, the environment turned incredibly toxic. I have been targeted with at least five intense, forced evangelization attempts. They rely entirely on fear-mongering and the threat of hell to try and convert me, and they get furious if I try to argue back using logic.
This whole situation has made me realize that, emotionally, nobody there cares about me. For the past month, I’ve been crying constantly. Because of my hadephobia (extreme fear of hell), I have been dealing with a literal, agonizing physical pain in my chest every single day. I feel like I am slowly dying because I lack absolute certainty. I am trapped in a downward spiral, my grades have dropped significantly, and I’ve even had thoughts of wanting to end it all just to stop the suffering.
I’ve fallen into a vicious cycle of obsessively researching this topic, but I can't seem to let it go. Whenever I end up in Christian forums, it feels like they win every debate, which completely breaks me. I've started internalizing their terms, gaslighting myself into believing that I am the one who is wrong or broken. I don't even know what to feel or think anymore. It is completely messed up because I know I am young and far from actual death, but I don't know where this is leading me.
I just want to forget about all of this, leave this garbage behind, and get some reassurance that I am not crazy for wanting to live a better life away from this fear. Thank you.im a real person i'm using Ai to pass from spanish to English i really need help
Hi everyone, thank you for reading. I am in a very dark place right now and desperately need some help and validation.
I’m young, and I attend a Seventh-day Adventist school where absolutely everyone is a believer. I am the only atheist/agnostic there. Everything was fine until I made the mistake of revealing my lack of belief. Since then, the environment turned incredibly toxic. I have been targeted with at least five intense, forced evangelization attempts. They rely entirely on fear-mongering and the threat of hell to try and convert me, and they get furious if I try to argue back using logic.
This whole situation has made me realize that, emotionally, nobody there cares about me. For the past month, I’ve been crying constantly. Because of my hadephobia (extreme fear of hell), I have been dealing with a literal, agonizing physical pain in my chest every single day. I feel like I am slowly dying because I lack absolute certainty. I am trapped in a downward spiral, my grades have dropped significantly, and I’ve even had thoughts of wanting to end it all just to stop the suffering.
I’ve fallen into a vicious cycle of obsessively researching this topic, but I can't seem to let it go. Whenever I end up in Christian forums, it feels like they win every debate, which completely breaks me. I've started internalizing their terms, gaslighting myself into believing that I am the one who is wrong or broken. I don't even know what to feel or think anymore. It is completely messed up because I know I am young and far from actual death, but I don't know where this is leading me.
I just want to forget about all of this, leave this garbage behind, and get some reassurance that I am not crazy for wanting to live a better life away from this fear. Thank you.im a real person i'm using Ai to pass from spanish to English i really need help