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▲ 2 r/WonderWoman

This post is meant for discussion. I want to read opinions. Do you think Absolute Wonder Woman is moving too slowly? I mean this solely in how they have handled Cale.

I might get some flak, but let's look at the other Absolute books.

Batman knows Grim exists. Grim is the cause of his pain. Yes, Bane did the action, but Grim was in control of him.

Superman knows Brainiac exists and defeats him once.

Diana hasn't met Cale, but she has been told of her several times. Is Barbara going to be the catalyst for Diana to want to put hands on her? I don't see Diana and Barbara having the relationship yet for Diana to be incensed any more than for anyone else. I feel like she'd be pissed if anyone she knew got hurt by Cale, not Barbara specifically.

Even on some, "I should have been there," type shit. Especially when Diana said get to safety. I'm going to be mad if that's the reasoning for Barbara's eventual heel turn.

I find it also weird that we haven't gotten an origin story on this version of Cale. What are her motivations? How is she different from classic Cale? Is she connected to the Amazons fate in some way?

These are just some things I was thinking about after reading Absolute Superman. Brainiac's presence is felt in the book. Same with Grimm. Cale is just there. While she's evil, I don't feel like it's up to Diana to stop her. It that makes sense.

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u/JournalistOk9266 — 15 days ago
▲ 49 r/DCcomics

This is no slight to the other absolute books, which I like to varying degrees, but as long as your most noticeable books are doing well creatively, you have a chance to have something really good. A book like Martian Manhunter can be enjoyed for what it is rather than having the pressure to be something it's not.

This month, I think Superman has taken the top spot. Jason Aaron slapped fire out of the other 2. Yes, Absolute Batman had a crazy ending, but for me, it just feels like more of the same. It's hard to judge a Batman book on its merits because we see so many Batman books a month. I love Absolute Wonder Woman, but it's taking a while to get to the larger plot. What is Veronica Cale's plot? What does she want outside of domination? We haven't even seen her origin. I still very much enjoy the book, but after 18-19 issues, I want to see more of what's going on and what she is up against. I mean, Diana knows Cale exists, so she could yank that chick out her building while Bruce would most certainly die going up against Grimm, and Superman has no idea where his enemies are.

I have, for the most part, put Absolute Wonder Woman in the top spot because it feels new and fresh, but we need to see more than Zatanna googly eyes. The other too books feel like a confrontation is imminent while Diana hasn't personally lost anything to put hands on Cale. So Kelly T, the gauntlet, has been laid.

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u/JournalistOk9266 — 15 days ago
▲ 53 r/WonderWoman

I promised myself I wouldn't read another Jeph Loeb written book, but I was bored, and I thought I would skim it. This book wasn't bad, especially given the Batman books he's put out. But it brings up an interesting point that was brushed aside.

Bruce makes a point that Diana could do a lot in Gotham. He also gets an offer from Diana to take The villain to Themyscira.

And I have to ask Bruce, big dog, are you stupid? Clark is an alien, so to a certain degree, that's cheating, but Diana is technically human. Yes, she's in a higher class than most heroes in terms of strength, but she is human by all accounts. You and her can clean up Gotham in a weekend. You could watch College Basketball on Saturday and NFL on Sunday, and Diana would be done by 11 o clock.

Also, what would be the problem with sending the villain to Themyscira? I get it an island of magic artifacts could be potentially dangerous. But you and Diana hand delivering them to prison, and the island is protected by bad ass women with at least above average strength doesn't seem like a bad plan.

Am I crazy?

u/JournalistOk9266 — 19 days ago
▲ 41 r/Spiderman

I literally told people this. I told people who love the MCU. I told people who seem to misunderstand what Peter means when he says, " Great power comes great responsibility." I told people who seem to think Spider-Man lore(Peter's story)can be easily changed, and you get the same effect. Well, here this is proof you are wrong as hell.

Peter's failure it what motivates him. Peter's ultimate sin was his arrogance, and his selfcenteredness cost the life of the person who raised him. The man who gave him everything. Mind you, Uncle Ben never said, "With great power comes great responsibility in the original comic. He didn't have to. It used to be obvious. So obvious in fact that they used it as a tagline in his first movie.

But somewhere along the way, since people don't read comics or have poor reading comprehension in addition to Marvel not valuing their characters and thinking that the lessons of the books no longer have meaning.

I have seen a lot of young people and internet tough guys call Peter all types of shit like cuck and Saint Peter but the bottomline is Peter is striving always to be the good man his uncle believed him to be.

The reason why the MCU Peter and Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man are that they miss the entire point. Peter's story starts with failure. The failure to act. The failure to use the gifts you are blessed with for the common good.

We have become a society where we are concerned for things until it happens to us personally, and what happened to Peter is an example of that. He couldn't be bothered because he couldn't conceive of the ramifications of letting that crook go. It could have happened to anyone, but it happened to him. Therefore, Peter is driven to stop this from happening to someone else. Yes, he has had people die on his watch. Jean Dewolfe, Harry, Marla Jameson, the Stacy's, but he always tries to do better. To be better.

That is what makes Peter the most unique character of any of the most popular superheroes. Batman is motivated by a crime he couldn't stop. Superman was raised to be good and is. Wonder Woman was destined. Peter had a choice to alter his destiny and choice wrongly. While every other hero can quit, Peter can't because the minute he does something terrible could happen.

The reason why I am personally protective of Spider-Man origin is that it's unique. Peter isn't a Saint by nature. He's not a genuinely good guy. He's just a guy. A guy who had a choice to make. When Stan Lee said anyone can be Spider-Man, what he might have meant in his heart was that we all have a choice to be better people. To stop bad things from happening. To learn from our mistakes. The MCU and Disney Spider-Man miss that completely. To be redeemed, you have to fail first. Being good for Peter isn't innate or destiny. It's something he chose to do. Something he grew into. Something that makes him empathize with his villains. Which makes him fight hard to redeem them if possible. Because for them like him, they should have a right to choose.

And if he kills them. They lose that choice ultimately. Never a chance to make amends or be held accountable.

u/JournalistOk9266 — 25 days ago