u/Karanze

Long story short

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**Percentage. HP. True. Damage. Sucks.**

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Demacian Justice is frankly absurd, and in my opinion, the most busted point and click ability in the game. No other champion, that I can think of at the top of my head, gets value quite like Garen does when he hits his ultimate level caps, it is the literal definition of an uncounterable ability. There's no way to dodge it, it has both flat and % HP true damage, so no item outside of Sterakks can deal with it, aka you cannot build against it. The only play you have against it is to space Garen and never get in range, which isn't a reality you can afford if you play a melee champion, such as half the game's playable characters.

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Without accounting for the flat damage, at max rank Garen's ult executes you at roughly 26% of your max HP, except the game now has a bunch of modifiers through Last Stand, Arcanist and Spear, which can raise that cap to shy of 33% of your HP, and then on top of that comes the 350 true damage, also modified by the above to 487 true damage, which easily pushes the ability's execute threshold to somewhere in the 40s % HP range.

If you don't build HP, the flat modifed true damage will destroy you, if you do build HP, the % HP will destroy you, and Garen has to build nothing but Spear to scale its damage to max value.

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Like why is Garen this strong right now, besides the random buff he got? It's because the top lane role quest speed levels him to 16 so no melee can ever approach him.

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Something has to change, it's completely ruinous that a 1/9 Garen can run up to me at 25 min and execute my bruiser build champion at 40%, with a point and click ability. Not even a fed Cho'gath or Darius will ruin me that hard. The closest relation I can think of, outside of the above, is Sett's Saitama punch, but the reason getting hit with 4k true damage by that ability is less infuriating, is because you can actually do something to ensure you do not take that hit at all or at reduced damage.

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Demacian Justice needs to go back to magic damage, to ensure you can actually build something against it, or some sort of mechanic has to be added in, like for an example you need to be hit by X amount of spins before it converts to true damage.