u/Kenric3636

Just wondering, with artemis getting the command point generation ability as a Warlord Captain, does this mean we have a bjorn/azreal option now?

He still comes back on a 2+ meaning we can play him like a sort of combi lt that our opponent has to focus extra to get him off the board, all while he holds either our expansion or home while generating command points. (I'm not abbreviating).

And his weapon profiles are decent if he gets caught up in melee.

Got a friendly 2v2 match with some friends, usually I play Marines Deathwatch but I wanted to try IA this time, any tips?

Ordo Xenos (985 points)

Imperial Agents

Imperialis Fleet (2 Detachment Points)

Reconnaissance

Incursion (1000 points)

Attached Units

Attached Unit 1

Watch Master (110 points)

• Enhancement: Clandestine Operation

Deathwatch Kill Team (190 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

Attached Unit 2

Inquisitor (65 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• Enhancement: Digital Weapons

Grey Knights Terminator Squad (180 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

CHARACTERS

Inquisitor Kroyle (100 points)

• Warlord

BATTLELINE

Aquila Kill Team (100 points)

Imperial Navy Breachers (90 points)

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Imperial Rhino (65 points)

OTHER DATASHEETS

Subductor Squad (85 points)

Really debating right now whether I should take a phobos Lt to give move shoot move to my incursors

Or run the Beacon Enhancement to give to one of my indoms or my 10man brick of Termis

Points wise both work, and it's a heavy Purge list for my dw, just not sure which one of these are better for it.

Already got my JPI and my list has a loose 100pts and I'm wondering what's better.

- 5 man vets

- 5 man decimus

Or

- Callidus?

And which loadouts would be best for the 5 mans?

2k Firestorm & Librarius (2000 points)

Space Marines

Deathwatch

Strike Force (2000 points)

Firestorm Assault Force and Librarius Conclave (3 Detachment Points)

Purge the Foe

Attached Units

Attached Unit 1

Captain in Gravis Armour (95 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• Warlord

• 1x Boltstorm gauntlet

1x Power fist

1x Relic blade

• Enhancement: Forged in Battle

Indomitor Kill Team (275 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 4x Kill Team Heavy Intercessors

• 4x Bolt pistol

4x Close combat weapon

2x Deathwatch heavy bolt rifle

2x Deathwatch heavy bolter

• 3x Kill Team Heavy Intercessor with power fists

• 3x Flamestorm gauntlets

3x Twin power fists

• 3x Kill Team Heavy Intercessor with melta rifle

• 3x Bolt pistol

3x Close combat weapon

2x Melta rifle

1x Multi-melta

Attached Unit 2

Librarian in Terminator Armour (110 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Combi-weapon

1x Force weapon

1x Smite

• Enhancement: Celerity

Deathwatch Terminator Squad (190 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant

• 1x Storm Shield

1x Thunder hammer

• 4x Deathwatch Terminator

• 3x Chainfist

3x Cyclone missile launcher

1x Storm Shield

3x Storm bolter

1x Thunder hammer

Attached Unit 3

Watch Master (120 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Vigil spear

• Enhancement: War-tempered Artifice

Deathwatch Veterans (190 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

• 1x Watch Sergeant

• 1x Astartes shield

1x Xenophase blade

• 9x Deathwatch Veterans

• 1x Black Shield blades

4x Close combat weapon

4x Deathwatch thunder hammer

2x Frag cannon

2x Infernus heavy bolter

Attached Unit 4

Librarian (70 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Force weapon

1x Smite

• Enhancement: Champion of Humanity

Decimus Kill Team (190 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

• 1x Kill Team Sergeant

• 1x Plasma pistol

1x Power weapon

• 2x Deathwatch Veteran

• 2x Bolt pistol

2x Close combat weapon

2x Stalker bolt rifle

• 2x Deathwatch Veteran

• 2x Bolt pistol

2x Heavy thunder hammer

• 2x Deathwatch Veteran

• 2x Close combat weapon

2x Deathwatch marksman bolt carbine

2x Special-issue bolt pistol

• 1x Deathwatch Veteran

• 1x Special-issue bolt pistol

1x Xenophase blade

• 2x Gravis Veteran

• 2x Bolt pistol

2x Close combat weapon

2x Infernus heavy bolter

CHARACTERS

Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (85 points)

• 1x Combi-weapon

1x Paired combat blades

BATTLELINE

Intercessor Squad (80 points)

• 1x Intercessor Sergeant

• 1x Astartes grenade launcher

1x Bolt pistol

1x Bolt rifle

1x Thunder hammer

• 4x Intercessor

• 4x Bolt pistol

4x Bolt rifle

4x Close combat weapon

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Rhino (75 points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

1x Hunter-killer missile

1x Storm bolter

OTHER DATASHEETS

Indomitor Kill Team (275 points)

• 4x Kill Team Heavy Intercessors

• 4x Bolt pistol

4x Close combat weapon

2x Deathwatch heavy bolt rifle

2x Deathwatch heavy bolter

• 3x Kill Team Heavy Intercessor with power fists

• 3x Flamestorm gauntlets

3x Twin power fists

• 3x Kill Team Heavy Intercessor with melta rifle

• 3x Bolt pistol

3x Close combat weapon

2x Melta rifle

1x Multi-melta

Repulsor (170 points)

• 1x Armoured hull

1x Hunter-slayer missile

1x Las-talon

1x Repulsor defensive array

1x Twin heavy bolter

Suppressor Squad (75 points)

• 1x Suppressor Sergeant

• 1x Accelerator autocannon

1x Bolt pistol

1x Close combat weapon

• 2x Suppressor

• 2x Accelerator autocannon

2x Bolt pistol

2x Close combat weapon

Open to any critiques and/or ideas to improve this 1st draft.

Played a bit of bastion and curious to play firestorm, what lists are yall running?

Played and won my first game of 11th and had some changes to make to my previous list.

Deathwatch 2k pts 11th ed (1990 points)

Space Marines

Deathwatch

Strike Force (2000 points)

Bastion Task Force and Librarius Conclave (3 Detachment Points)

Force Dispositions: Reconnaissance, Take and Hold

Attached Units

Attached Unit 1

Captain in Gravis Armour (100 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• Warlord

• 1x Boltstorm gauntlet

1x Power fist

1x Relic blade

• Enhancement: Hero of the Chapter

Indomitor Kill Team (275 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 4x Kill Team Heavy Intercessors

• 4x Bolt pistol

4x Close combat weapon

2x Deathwatch heavy bolt rifle

2x Deathwatch heavy bolter

• 3x Kill Team Heavy Intercessor with power fists

• 3x Flamestorm gauntlets

3x Twin power fists

• 3x Kill Team Heavy Intercessor with melta rifle

• 3x Bolt pistol

3x Close combat weapon

2x Melta rifle

1x Multi-melta

Attached Unit 2

Librarian in Terminator Armour (90 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Combi-weapon

1x Force weapon

1x Smite

• Enhancement: Temporal Corridor

Deathwatch Terminator Squad (190 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant

• 1x Storm Shield

1x Thunder hammer

• 4x Deathwatch Terminator

• 3x Chainfist

3x Cyclone missile launcher

1x Storm Shield

3x Storm bolter

1x Thunder hammer

Attached Unit 3

Chaplain (75 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Absolvor bolt pistol

1x Crozius arcanum

• Enhancement: Blades of Valour

Deathwatch Veterans (190 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

• 1x Watch Sergeant

• 1x Astartes shield

1x Xenophase blade

• 9x Deathwatch Veterans

• 2x Astartes shield

1x Black Shield blades

2x Close combat weapon

4x Deathwatch thunder hammer

2x Frag cannon

2x Power weapon

Attached Unit 4

Librarian (80 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Force weapon

1x Smite

• Enhancement: Prescience

Decimus Kill Team (190 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

• 1x Kill Team Sergeant

• 1x Plasma pistol

1x Power weapon

• 2x Deathwatch Veteran

• 2x Bolt pistol

2x Close combat weapon

2x Stalker bolt rifle

• 2x Deathwatch Veteran

• 2x Bolt pistol

2x Heavy thunder hammer

• 2x Deathwatch Veteran

• 2x Close combat weapon

2x Combat knife

2x Special-issue bolt pistol

• 1x Deathwatch Veteran

• 1x Special-issue bolt pistol

1x Xenophase blade

• 2x Gravis Veteran

• 2x Bolt pistol

2x Close combat weapon

2x Infernus heavy bolter

Attached Unit 5

Inquisitor (65 points)

• Attached as: Leader

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Force weapon

1x Psychic Gifts

1x Psychic Shock Wave

Decimus Kill Team (100 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

• 1x Kill Team Sergeant

• 1x Plasma pistol

1x Power weapon

• 1x Deathwatch Veteran

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Close combat weapon

1x Stalker bolt rifle

• 1x Deathwatch Veteran

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Heavy thunder hammer

• 1x Deathwatch Veteran

• 1x Close combat weapon

1x Combat knife

1x Special-issue bolt pistol

• 1x Gravis Veteran

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Close combat weapon

1x Frag cannon

BATTLELINE

Intercessor Squad (80 points)

• 1x Intercessor Sergeant

• 1x Astartes grenade launcher

1x Bolt pistol

1x Bolt rifle

1x Thunder hammer

• 4x Intercessor

• 4x Bolt pistol

4x Bolt rifle

4x Close combat weapon

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Rhino (75 points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

1x Hunter-killer missile

1x Storm bolter

OTHER DATASHEETS

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (85 points)

• 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant with Jump Pack

• 1x Plasma pistol

1x Power fist

• 4x Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs

• 4x Astartes chainsword

4x Heavy bolt pistol

Incursor Squad (85 points)

• 1x Incursor Sergeant

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Occulus bolt carbine

1x Paired combat blades

• 4x Incursor

• 4x Bolt pistol

1x Haywire Mine

4x Occulus bolt carbine

4x Paired combat blades

Storm Speeder Thunderstrike (135 points)

• 1x Close combat weapon

1x Stormfury missiles

1x Thunderstrike las-talon

1x Twin Icarus rocket pod

Suppressor Squad (75 points)

• 1x Suppressor Sergeant

• 1x Accelerator autocannon

1x Bolt pistol

1x Close combat weapon

• 2x Suppressor

• 2x Accelerator autocannon

2x Bolt pistol

2x Close combat weapon

ALLIED UNITS

Inquisitor Kroyle (100 points)

• 1x Butcher blade

1x Garralisk’s claws and teeth

1x Jindarii tox‑cycler

1x Stubcarbine

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Already using a thunderstrike, wondering if the new lander speeder is viable in a list with a 100pt gap

(Already have callidus, incursors and intercessors)

Wondering how good bladeguard can be in 11th for deathwatch, especially in a Bastion Conclave list

Switched out my watchmaster for a chaplain with his new nerf since im keeping my grav cptn. Need to fill a 45pt hole so I attached a apothecary to my libby decimus unit. Any thoughts?

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Deathwatch 2k pts 11th ed (1995 points)

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Space Marines

Deathwatch

Strike Force (2000 points)

Bastion Task Force and Librarius Conclave (3 Detachment Points)

Force Dispositions: Reconnaissance, Take and Hold

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Attached Units

Attached Unit 1

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Captain in Gravis Armour (100 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• Warlord

• 1x Master-crafted heavy bolt rifle

1x Master-crafted power weapon

• Enhancement: Hero of the Chapter

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Indomitor Kill Team (275 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 4x Kill Team Heavy Intercessors

• 4x Bolt pistol

4x Close combat weapon

2x Deathwatch heavy bolt rifle

2x Deathwatch heavy bolter

• 3x Kill Team Heavy Intercessor with power fists

• 3x Flamestorm gauntlets

3x Twin power fists

• 3x Kill Team Heavy Intercessor with melta rifle

• 3x Bolt pistol

3x Close combat weapon

2x Melta rifle

1x Multi-melta

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Attached Unit 2

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Librarian in Terminator Armour (90 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Force weapon

1x Smite

• Enhancement: Temporal Corridor

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Deathwatch Terminator Squad (190 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant

• 1x Storm Shield

1x Thunder hammer

• 4x Deathwatch Terminator

• 3x Cyclone missile launcher

3x Power fist

1x Storm Shield

3x Storm bolter

1x Thunder hammer

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Attached Unit 3

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Chaplain (75 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Absolvor bolt pistol

1x Crozius arcanum

• Enhancement: Blades of Valour

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Deathwatch Veterans (190 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

• 1x Watch Sergeant

• 1x Combi-weapon

1x Xenophase blade

• 9x Deathwatch Veterans

• 2x Astartes shield

1x Black Shield blades

2x Close combat weapon

4x Deathwatch thunder hammer

2x Frag cannon

2x Power weapon

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Attached Unit 4

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Librarian (80 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Force weapon

1x Smite

• Enhancement: Prescience

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Apothecary (40 points)

• Attached as: Support (Character)

• 1x Absolvor bolt pistol

1x Close combat weapon

1x Reductor pistol

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Decimus Kill Team (190 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

• 1x Kill Team Sergeant

• 1x Plasma pistol

1x Power weapon

• 2x Deathwatch Veteran

• 2x Bolt pistol

2x Close combat weapon

2x Stalker bolt rifle

• 2x Deathwatch Veteran

• 2x Bolt pistol

2x Heavy thunder hammer

• 2x Deathwatch Veteran

• 2x Close combat weapon

2x Deathwatch marksman bolt carbine

2x Special-issue bolt pistol

• 1x Deathwatch Veteran

• 1x Special-issue bolt pistol

1x Xenophase blade

• 2x Gravis Veteran

• 2x Bolt pistol

2x Close combat weapon

2x Infernus heavy bolter

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Attached Unit 5

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Incursor Squad (85 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Incursor Sergeant

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Occulus bolt carbine

1x Paired combat blades

• 4x Incursor

• 4x Bolt pistol

1x Haywire Mine

4x Occulus bolt carbine

4x Paired combat blades

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BATTLELINE

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Decimus Kill Team (100 points)

• 1x Kill Team Sergeant

• 1x Plasma pistol

1x Power weapon

• 1x Deathwatch Veteran

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Close combat weapon

1x Stalker bolt rifle

• 1x Deathwatch Veteran

• 1x Astartes shield

1x Bolt pistol

1x Power weapon

• 1x Deathwatch Veteran

• 1x Close combat weapon

1x Deathwatch marksman bolt carbine

1x Special-issue bolt pistol

• 1x Gravis Veteran

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Close combat weapon

1x Frag cannon

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Intercessor Squad (80 points)

• 1x Intercessor Sergeant

• 1x Astartes grenade launcher

1x Bolt pistol

1x Bolt rifle

1x Thunder hammer

• 4x Intercessor

• 4x Bolt pistol

4x Bolt rifle

4x Close combat weapon

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DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

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Rhino (75 points)

• 1x Armoured tracks

1x Hunter-killer missile

1x Storm bolter

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OTHER DATASHEETS

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Deathwatch Terminator Squad (190 points)

• 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant

• 1x Storm Shield

1x Thunder hammer

• 4x Deathwatch Terminator

• 3x Cyclone missile launcher

3x Power fist

1x Storm Shield

3x Storm bolter

1x Thunder hammer

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Incursor Squad (85 points)

• 1x Incursor Sergeant

• 1x Bolt pistol

1x Occulus bolt carbine

1x Paired combat blades

• 4x Incursor

• 4x Bolt pistol

1x Haywire Mine

4x Occulus bolt carbine

4x Paired combat blades

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Storm Speeder Thunderstrike (135 points)

• 1x Close combat weapon

1x Stormfury missiles

1x Thunderstrike las-talon

1x Twin Icarus rocket pod

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ALLIED UNITS

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Inquisitor Kroyle (100 points)

• 1x Butcher blade

1x Garralisk’s claws and teeth

1x Jindarii tox‑cycler

1x Stubcarbine