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I haven't seen spalling damage (i.e., bits of armour breaking off on the inside of the tank from the shockwave caused by a non-piercing hit and ricocheting around) in any of the battle-damage AARs. Is it in the game yet? If not, is it planned?

Generally speaking it could happen with any shell, and this is why most armoured vehicles now have a liner made of e.g., Kevlar on the inside of their steel armour to try to damp down such fragments. From what I've been able to find, these liners were introduced in the early-mid 1980's and so some of the vehicles fielded by the US army (and W. German?) could have had them by 1985, though this would require more research to substantiate - the only tank I'm relatively sure had it in 1985 was the British Chieftain. I've also read of M1 Abrams crews wearing ballistic vests because there was no anti-spall liner but that that M2 Bradley had one - doubtless people on here who know more about this than me can say more on this.

Spalling was particularly a factor with HESH ammo (such as the 120mm HESH shells pictured) that were used by British and Canadian tanks (including the Canadian version of the Leopard 1 which used the British 105mm rifled gun) during the period, where the main damage against armoured targets is caused not by armour-penetration but instead by spalling. Since Canadian forces at CFB Lahr were supposed to reinforce the US/German forces, theoretically these could have turned up at Fulda (though their main mission was in US VII Corps area further south).'

Just love this shot (not even sure it was one of mine) where a 105mm sabot round has gone through the drive-sprocket (?) of an already-turret-tossed-T-72 and continued on to demilitarise another T-72 through the side-armour, and *THEN* continued out through the other side of that T-72. Pretty sure if there was a T-55 on the other side of that T-72, it would have been whacked as well.

It still needs a lot of work, but there's nothing quite like this.