How do I know that Lucifer exists?

Hello, I'm a non-theistic [or atheistic] Luciferian. How do I know Lucifer is there? How do I know who He is? I don't have any altar or anything to build, I have nothing.

I really wish Lucifer was real, and I want to feel His immense love and comfort. I want to feel His presence and I want to feel safe in Him. I just really wish He was real.

How do I figure out that He is real? Thank you.

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u/KissAndRock — 11 days ago

Christians vs. Atheists on the Bible

>!It bothers me how much Christians love the Bible. I don't get it. It's full of genocide, rape, slavery, and hatred.

God especially being cruel and merciless, allowing the Israelites to kidnap and enslave women and children into sex slavery. It disgusts me. Will there ever be a day when people realize that genocide is evil even if God is the one doing it?

Think about how many innocent babies were killed in the flood, how many women, children, and infants were screaming during the genocides on the Canaanites and the Midianites. How much more do people have to suffer in God's wake of destruction, murder, and madness?

God then comes to Earth as Jesus to preach a about the good news, that people can be saved and have a chance at grace.

But, God says that if you don't love him and follow him, you will be thrown into Hell where the fire never quenches. He says "I love you," but I don't think eternal torture is love. It's resentment and hatred. Hell is eternal, and if Hell is evil, wouldn't that make God infinitely evil for sending us there?

God created Hell knowing full well with his omniscience what he would use it for. God used his omniscience, an eternity before Adam and Eve, knew they'd be tempted by the serpent. God planned all of this. He wanted all of this. God is omniscient. He knew this was all going to happen and let's it happen. God is making us his puppet, and he punishes us if we don't obey him while he pulls on our puppet strings.

God also commands that you must love him the most over all. He's a narcissist.

God has killed so many innocent people, and expects me to stroke his massive ego? Oh please. There are other people on Earth that deserve love, compliments, and care. Billions of people. God deserves none of it.

However, many Christians view it as God's perfect and good word. God punishing the Israelites for their sins, God punishing the nations for their sins, etc. God coming down to humble himself and make himself a mortal human out of humility.

I think the problems with God's morality, narcissism, and self-contradictory nature is way bigger than the "good stuff" you can extract from the Bible.

But, I will say that Jesus has given us some really good morality lessons and teachings, but for all the wrong reasons, so I don't consider Jesus to be a good teacher. Especially if he preaches about Hell.

Edit: I have more to add. God, with his perfect omniscience created Satan knowing what'd he do. Satan does things, God knowing Satan has done, is doing, and will do these things does not stop Satan. To me, it seems God created Satan as a scapegoat to blame on rather than taking fault for his own wrongdoings.

Secondly, Christians always talk about how God doesn't intervene to preserve our free will. I consider that a bunch of, excuse my language, horseshit. God repeatedly gets involved in the Old Testament, constantly killing people for their smallest decisions, or killing whole nations of people due to them having a different culture.

Instead of God telling them to stop, he just decides to kill a whole nation first and foremost. For David's sins against God, God killed David's infant son. How is that fair? God punishes children for the sins of their parents? God killing innocent babies? That doesn't sound like a good God to me. God just seems like a narcissistic asshole that refuses to take any fault of his own, blaming it on us or Satan. The most obviously corrupt people are always the ones that never admit fault for wrongdoing.

We're told to hate the sin and love the sinner, so why don't we hate the belief but love the believer? To me, they're the ones that were deceived.

Edit 2: Now back on Jesus. God as Jesus supposedly humbled himself and became a human, so he became the son of himself but is also the father of himself.

Jesus grew up, had to learn some things [God is omniscient and has to learn!?}, and then eventually preached and was executed for sedition.

But here's the thing. His death is presented as a martyr, a sacrifice. The Lamb of God. But, is it really a sacrifice? Jesus was a mere human when he was executed. But he's also God, and God knows everything. Jesus knew he'd be ascended to Godhood after his execution, Jesus even came back to life.

It's not a sacrifice if he came back to life, because Jesus had nothing to lose but absolutely everything to gain from dying. Jesus had it much, much more easier than most people in history. Not much to respect him for if you believe he actually came back to life into Godhood. It's something to be jealous about, actually.

Edit 3: So, for the Nephilim. Angels had children with human women. Seriously? God gave angels the ability/organ to have children? Why would God do this if he never intended them to use that ability to have children? God wanted the Nephilim to happen. This is self-explanatory with logic.

I will add further edits if I have further thoughts.

Everywhere God goes, suffering and death follows.!<

u/KissAndRock — 2 months ago

Trying to understand philosophical Luciferianism better.

I'm new to this Luciferian thing, and I'm looking for more things that can help deepen my Luciferian beliefs, specifically philosophically. I'm an atheist but I do revere the Christian mythology surrounding Lucifer and His rebellion, and also of the serpent tempting Eve.

I see Lucifer as a hero who redeemed humanity from divine slavery, who sacrificed His spot in Heaven just for us. I relate to Him a lot, especially in the Fallen Angel painting by Alexandre Cabanel, which is by far my most favorite painting.

I'm just looking for things that, in your opinion, I should implement into my Luciferian philosophy that would fit in quite well with Lucifer, especially talking points and view points on Lucifer that I may agree with and be inspired to follow.

Thank you so much.

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u/KissAndRock — 2 months ago

What is a good English translation of the Hebrew Bible?

I'm looking to read the Hebrew Bible that are exempt from Christian biases. Is there any good translation of the Hebrew Bible that are actual faithful translations of the original Hebrew? I'm tired of reading the Hebrew Bible from the NIV Bible, especially since I know it's a heavily biased translation.

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u/KissAndRock — 3 months ago