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This thing Neville said once that stuck with me. he said “do not argue the point, just accept it.”

and when i first heard that i didnt really get why that mattered.

but it clicked for me eventually.

i had this conversation with someone i know and they were feeling a lot of guilt about something in their life. like they kept replaying the situation and trying to figure out if they deserved it, if they caused it, if it meant something about them as a person.

and the more they tried to logically solve it the worse they felt.

and it made me think about what Neville meant.

because when we argue with our current reality or with a feeling… we're actually keeping it alive.

we keep analyzing it
explaining it
justifying it

and the mind kinda stays stuck there.

but the weird part is the moment you stop arguing and just accept that a state exists, something loosens.

like instead of
“why am i feeling this way”
“why did this happen”
“how to fix it”

you just go

ok… this is the state im in right now.

thats it.

and the moment you see it as just a state instead of some permanent thing about you… it becomes easier to move out of it.

I hope if im explaining this well tbh.

but it feels like a lot of the struggle comes from fighting the state instead of just recognizing it.

once you accept it… you're actually free to shift it.

curious if anyone else here had that moment where something simple Neville said suddenly made way more sense later on.

just wanted to share a shift i had few months ago with manifesting because it honestly cleared up a lot of confusion for me.

for the longest time whenever i did imagination stuff (inspired by Neville Goddard) i was still secretly trying to get something.

like

love

money

a job

some situation to change

and i realized… that mindset itself kind of messes everything up.

because the moment you're imagining in order to get something… you're already in the state of someone who doesnt have it.

like think about it for a second.

if someone already had the thing they wanted… why would they be trying so hard to get it today?

that was the shift for me.

the whole “assume it is already true” thing basically means you're imagining from the place where it's already done, not imagining to make it happen.

another angle that helped me a lot was this:

sometimes when i go into imagination now i dont even think about results. i just imagine it for the experience of it.

almost like watching a movie in your mind.

like if you watch your favorite show you're not watching it to make it happen in real life… you're just enjoying the experience.

so now sometimes i literally tell myself

“im just imagining this because its fun.”

weirdly that actually makes it feel more real and relaxed.

also that question Neville always asked helped a lot:

"what would it feel like if this were already true?"

not what would you do to make it happen.

not how would it come.

just… what would it feel like if it was already done.

that kinda bypasses the logical mind a bit and you just feel the relief of it.

another big realization though

techniques can work… ive gotten results just doing techniques before.

but the smoother path imo is when your identity actually matches the thing you want.

because if your identity is still

“im the person who struggles with money”

or

“im the person who gets rejected”

then even if something manifests you kinda snap back to the old pattern.

so lately i've been focusing less on the result and more on

who is the version of me that already has this life

and trying to think / react / experience more like that person.

lowkey feels way more stable than just chasing results.

So, i just watched this talk inspired by Neville Goddard from EdwardArt and one line from it is still stuck in my brain…

"I am the problem and I am the solution.”

at first i was like… ok that sounds a little harsh lol. but the guy explained it in a way that actually made a lot of sense.

So basically the idea is this:

if imagination / consciousness is the only real cause of things… then the stuff happening in your world is just reflecting the state you're in.

not permanently you. just the state.

and that distinction was kinda huge tbh.

like we usually say
“i am unlucky”
“i am always rejected”
“i am bad with money”

but according to this idea… thats not you. thats just a state you’ve been occupying for a while.

and states express themselves automatically.

this part was crazy to me: the speaker said the reason people struggle to change is because they start identifying the state as their identity.

So instead of
“im in a state of insecurity”

we go
“this is just who i am”

and once you do that… yeah good luck changing it!

another thing he said that lowkey hit me was about responsibility.

a lot of people like the idea that “I AM is the solution.”

but they dont want the other half…

that I AM is also teh cause of the problem.

because the moment you blame circumstances, people, luck, the economy, your ex, whatever… you just created two powers.

and now your mind thinks there's something outside controlling your life.

imo that explains why people get stuck.

another interesting part was about accepting your current state first. not fighting it.

like instead of
“why am i like this”

you go

“ok… this is the state i'm in right now”

and once you see it as just a state, it becomes way easier to move to another one.

kind of like changing moods.

also he mentioned how the first sign a new state is working isnt some huge external event.

its actually a change in your body.

like when you imagine something good happening and suddenly you feel relief… or you smile naturally… or your body just relaxes.

thats apparently the first “manifestation”.

idk why but that actually makes sense to me.

anyway the big takeaway for me was basically:

stop looking at people or circumstances as the problem.

the state you're in is the problem.

but thats also the good news… because if its a state then it can definately be changed.

curious what people here think about this.

do you guys actually see your reactions / thoughts as just states? or does it still feel like “this is just who i am”?

Something I noticed in the manifestation space that almost nobody talks about…

Most people don’t actually fail because the law “doesn’t work”.

They fail because their old state is still the strongest habit they have.

Neville talked about this a lot actually. He said man finds it very hard to leave the things he has grown accustomed to. And honestly… that explains like 80 percent of what people experience.

Think about the typical journey.

Usually someone discovers manifestation because something in life hurts a bit.
Breakup. Money stress. Health issue. Feeling disrespected. Always attracting the same kind of people.

So you start searching… eventually you find manifestation. Maybe law of attraction first, then later Neville and law of assumption.

At first its exciting.

You start applying it.
Imagining the wish fulfilled.
Shifting your state.

And then something happens… things actually start changing.

You see small evidence.
Maybe a text from someone.
More money shows up.
Circumstances improve.

And you think ok wow this actually works.

But then something weird happens.

Life goes on.
You get busy.
You stop being conscious of your state.

You stop nurturing it.

Its kind of like having a garden.

At first you plant good seeds. Flowers grow. The garden looks amazing.

Then you think ok great… its beautiful now.

But you stop taking care of it.

You stop pulling weeds.
You stop planting new seeds.
You stop paying attention.

At first nothing happens.

But slowly… weeds start growing again.

Old moods come back.
Old reactions.
Old assumptions.

And before you even notice it… boom.

Triggers again.
Feeling stuck again.
Same patterns again.

Then people panic and say
“why did manifestation stop working”

But actually… the old state just came back because it had more momentum.

Neville said something really interesting about this.

He said a mood often repeated gains a momentum that is hard to break.

In other words… states become habits.

If you have spent 10 years in the state of struggle, rejection, lack or stress… that state has huge momentum.

So if you imagine your desired state for a few minutes a day… but spend the rest of the day in the old identity…

Guess which state wins.

Not because the law failed.

Because habit wins.

That’s why environment matters a lot too. Being around people who remind you of these ideas helps because honestly its very easy to just fall asleep again in daily life.

Another important point Neville mentioned that helped me a lot

Do not condemn yourself when you fall into the old state again.

Just notice it.

Don’t judge it.
Don’t fight it.
Just shift again.

Because the moment you start beating yourself up you actually reinforce the same state.

The whole idea is simple but not always easy.

You don’t change the outer world directly.

You change the state.

And if you stay in that state long enough… it becomes natural. And once it becomes natural the outer world starts reflecting it automatically.

So the real question is not

“Did I imagine correctly”

The real question is

Which state am I mostly living from throughout the day??

You don't need to be in state 24x7 but bring awareness to what is your dominant state.

Because whatever state becomes your habitual state

Eventually becomes your life.

Something interesting happens when people discover the law of assumption. At first they feel excited.

They start reading books by Neville Goddard, watching lectures, listening to podcasts. but then something subtle happens. They become professional learners instead of practitioners. Ask me how i know...

Every day they look for new techniques.

Robotic affirmations
Mirror affirmations
SATS
Revision
Inner conversations

And suddenly they feel like they need the perfect method before anything can work at all...

But the truth is much simpler. The teachings were always about changing your inner state. Not about endlessly collecting techniques. At some point you have enough knowledge.

After that the only real step left is practice. Sit with the feeling of the wish fulfilled. Experience the new version of yourself.

Return to it again and again.That is the main work. As Neville said be the 'doer of the word'.

I was there in the same spot few years ago too. I bought 6-7 books on manifesting, I had invested in at least 3 courses and I was barely going anywhere.

Infact, I was more confused after reading and confusing so much.

So, I decided to stick to simply 2 methods at most and start applying and since then life has never been the same.

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I wanted to share something that finally clicked for me about manifestation and the whole “subconscious does the work in the background” idea.

A lot of people say once you impress the subconscious, it just runs automatically. Which is true… but I realized most of us misunderstand what that actually means.

Here’s the key thing.

The subconscious doesn’t respond to what you once intended. It responds to the state you are currently occupying.

So people will do SATS, affirm, visualize etc… and they might genuinely feel the state of the wish fulfilled for a bit.

But then the 3D shows something opposite.

And suddenly the mind goes:

“Maybe it’s not working.”
“Did I do it wrong?”
“What if this never happens?”

And that’s the moment the state shifts.

It’s not that the subconscious “stopped working”. What actually happened is you moved into a different state, and your subconscious followed that instead.

That’s what people mean when they say you interrupted the process.

Something else that helped me understand this better was the idea of “keep coming back.”

At first I thought that meant constantly reminding the subconscious or repeating the intention again and again. But that’s not really it.

It’s actually much simpler.

“Coming back” just means returning to the identity you chose.

Not fighting the 3D.
Not forcing positive thinking.
Just not emotionally agreeing with the old story.

Because your reaction is basically your agreement with a state.

So if doubt shows up and you spiral into it for hours… you shifted states.

But if doubt shows up and you just go “ok whatever” and return to the feeling of the wish fulfilled… nothing was really interrupted.

Another mistake I see a lot (and I did this too) is people trying to mentally track the subconscious process.

Like trying to understand:

• how the subconscious is unfolding things
• whether it has “started working yet”
• if the manifestation is already in motion

But that’s not really our job.

Our only job is stabilizing the state of the person who already has the outcome.

That’s it.

Once that state becomes natural… you actually stop needing to “come back” so much, because you’re not leaving it all the time.

And that’s when things start unfolding in ways that honestly feel kind of effortless.

Anyway just wanted to share this because it cleared up a lot of confusion for me. Curious if anyone else had the same realization or struggled with this part of the process.