u/LoneWolfRHV

How do you guys think this fight would go if they were to fight to the death in a enclosed space (similar to kirei vs kiritsugo) so archer cant just snipe him.

I feel like Archer wouldn't be nearly as powerful as his servant version since he wouldnt have the eons of experience as a counter guardian nor the same arsenal he acquired during his service to the counter force.

But at the same he wouldnt be such a big figure in his time if he wasnt incredibly strong, nor would he have caught the eye of Ciel to the point that she would give him the holy shroud

But then again... Kirei is beast. And I feel like at this point he would still be slightly more skilled in close quarters combat.

So I genuinely don't know how it would go. It would be one hell of a fight though.

I really REALLY hate what they did with the thief and archer class in DD2. Ranger was pretty OP in the original, sure so take the daggers away from ranger. But the strider was allways the most fun class to play as. Great dagger moves but subpar bow, it worked perfectly well.

But now they separated into thief and archer?... why...

they both feel incomplete. Not in the sense of strenght, thief is the most broken class in the game other than magic archer but it still feels stupid. How come he doesn't carry a shortbow like the original?

And the archer class is even more stupid. Wtf you mean this dumb class cant carry daggers? whenever they climb a monster they have to stab it with arrow AND KICK AT PEOPLE IT THEY GET TOO CLOSE. Don't get me wrong the kicks are cool, but only occasionally. Not having a close quarter combat options just feels dumb.

They should just make the strider again and take the daggers off the ranger.

Edit: Warfarer just isnt the same. Less skills even after the update and no master skills. I also just dont like the concept of this class.

The only man to ever bitch the king of heroes to his face and not suffer a single consequence for it.

I was rewatching it recently, back then this scene was already great, but now after watching all the other fates and playing fgo, it genuinely baffles me.

Gilgamesh doesnt take shit from ANYONE, he killed people and lost his shit for much less than this, sure he might accept a joking remark from someone he kind of respects, but he has NO respect for emiya.

And then emiya goes to his face and deadass say he'll eliminate him if he acts up, and gilgamesh just stays there and ACTUALLY BEHAVES LMAO.

Then archer goes about his busines and gilgamesh follows after him, hidden and waiting for a chance to sneak him. Like, thats so unlike gilgamesh that its crazy. Just how scared was he?

And yeah suuure "full powered gilgamesh going all out destroys emiya" I know that...

Gilgamesh himself didnt seem so sure though, "going all out against the likes of him is already a loss". Sure, but hiding in the shadows, waiting for him to exhaust himself so you can attack him from the back AND STILL FAIL TO FINISH HIM OFF isnt?

He wasnt this coutious even against alcides, or against anyone really. None that I saw at least.

I've been waiting for akasha to add zibai leaderboards for a while now to see how she is going but since it doesnt seem like its gonna happen anytime soon here I am lol.

So my current team is c5r1 zibai, c1 columbina, c6 illuga and c0 linnea. This is the dps for a 60 seconds run. How is it? I dont really know any actual combos, animation cancel or whatever for her, just play normally, is it good? do i need to improve? if so which character should i focus on more? I added everyone's built in the second image.

Edit: Yup, it's abysmally low lmao. Thank you all for the help, I'll try again and send the results when I can