Xana vs Kaylee’s facial injuries; Was Kaylee screaming during murdered or was it a personal attack?

Both Xana and Kayelee’s fought back.
Kaylee’s face was targeted
Xana’s face wasn’t.

Was Kaylee screaming and the attack targeted at her face and mouth (subsequently knocking out a tooth and breaking her nose) an attempt to silence her or was it an attack from an intense personal rage?

Kaylee sustained multiple sharp force injuries + severe bluntforce trauma to the head that fractured her facial structure broke her nose and knocked out a tooth. They noted petechial hemorrhages & evidence that an unidentified object or “pressure” was applied across her mouth. Her neck and vascular structures (including the jugular/subclavian areas) suffered catastrophic damage.

Xana suffered extensive brutal sharpforce injuries (over 50 wounds). Evidence showdd she was upright & mobile (blood was found on the bottoms of her feet) Her autopsy explicitly detailed defensive wounds; deep cuts and BONE punctures on her hands and fingers from grabbing or deflecting the Ka-Bar knife, alongside facial abrasions consistent with direct hand to blade contact.

Why did Kaylee suffer such immense facial/blunt force trauma, while Xana's attack manifested as a chaotic, mobile struggle with extensive defense wounds? Was Kaylee screaming? Did DM heard her hence her initial statement hearing Kaylee say “someone’s here”?

I researched this topic before I conclude my theories.. and I quote here “Forensic pathology indicates that when a victim suddenly wakes up during a knife assault, their movement disrupts the offender's plan. Instinctive flailing, screaming, or blocking triggers a hyper-escalated, frenzied "overkill" response. The intense facial trauma on Kaylee points to a struggle where the assailant targeted the head/face area either to silence vocalizations, break resistance, or react in blind panic to a target refusing to submit quietly”

So the evidence of pressure across Kaylee’s mouth suggests an initial attempt by the killer or KILLERS at physical suppression or silencing… Xana's bloodied feet and severe hand mutilations tell a story of dynamic motion.. she was actively moving, trying to wake Ethan, or attempting to flee/fight back.. forcing the killer into a prolonged chaotic struggle.

Was there pre-existing hierarchical hit-list having Kaylee as the main target? Or was she screaming? How do you explain the difference in injuries to subdue both xana and kaylee?

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u/Loud_Contact8413 — 7 days ago

When grief turns into an unboxing series

Genuine q: how many other families of homicide victims
have publicly showcased in fb videos the gifts they received from supporters to this extent? Cus at this point I’m wondering if this is a normal thing in homicide cases!?

The goncalves family seem to turn “Thank you for your support” into a full blown unboxing series!!

u/Loud_Contact8413 — 2 months ago

The Mystery of the Self-Cleaning Blood

The first pic is from Dylan’s room… showing blood dripping from MM room. (If youre wondering why it’s blue search Amido Black)

If the theory is that BK entered the house.. committed the murders & left in 8 mins who cleaned up the visible blood afterward?

We’re talking about a scene where blood was outside the bedrooms & into the hallway.. not something you’d expect to simply disappear… yet the house was looking relatively clean in some areas!!

So who cleaned it? When? And how within the theory timeline?

At this point are we supposed to believe that the blood cleaned itself?

u/Loud_Contact8413 — 2 months ago

Why Was 1122 King Road Demolished? “Can’t Have a Crime Scene Ruining the Vibes”

“sorry, the crime scene is making everyone uncomfortable”: was healing more important than preserving it?

“NO think of the students!!” why did community comfort win over keeping the crime scene?

1122 King Road was demolished on Dec 28- 2023, while the case was still pending & before Kohberger had EVEN been tried!!

The University of Idaho said the house had become a “painful reminder” of the murders.. was affecting students & the surrounding community & had become a destination for media and morbid tourism..

But what exactly is SOOO wrong about it becoming a destination for media coverage? It was the actual crime scene in one of THE MOST high profile murder cases in the country…. Ofc journalists, investigators, researchers & the public were going to be interested in it!!

Isn’t that part of what happens when a major criminal case occurs? Was the solution really to demolish the physical crime scene cus people were paying attention to it? Couldn’t the university have simply restricted access, increased security, or dealt with trespassing & tourism without destroying the building?

“People are interested in the crime scene” is such a pretty weak justification!!

Some victims’ families wanted the house preserved until after the trial (should be their right to ask for that)

The prosecution & defense were given access to document the property through photos, measurement, scans and a 3D reconstruction..& prosecutors said the physical structure wasn’t necessary (HUH????)

But seriously… couldn’t the community sacrifice being uncomfortable just a little longer for the greater good? We’re talking about the physical location of a QUADRUPLE homicide, not sum ugly dorm that people got tired of looking at… but obv, looking at the house was just too emotionally inconvenient… NO that’s such a lame excuse to this really grave mistake!

How many college houses have been demolished cus a horrific crime happened there & some students didn’t feel comfortable seeing the building? If preserving the scene potentially benefited the judicial process… why was community discomfort allowed to outweigh preserving the actual crime scene?

A 3D model and sum photos are NOT the actual structure… distances, lighting, acoustics, door positions can become important when reconstructing events. U know, those pesky little details that tend to matter in a good investigation!!

& the biggest q i have is why not simply wait until after the trial? The building wasn’t going anywhere. Nobody was suggesting it needed to remain standing FOREVER! Once it was demolished, there was literally no going back.

“we documented everything, therefore there was absolutely nothing left to learn” isn’t exactly a compelling reason to destroy an irreplaceable crime scene before the judicial process was finished… If they were so confident that the physical structure had no further value, waiting until after trial shouldn’t have been an impossible sacrifice!

And the irony? The house was demolished partly in the name of healing and moving forward… only for the case to end in a guilty plea instead of the full public trial everyone had been preparing for!!

So I have to ask: was preserving the community’s comfort really more urgent than preserving the physical crime scene until the case was completely over?

Why was protecting the students feelings prioritised over protecting the evidence?

They say the house was too painful to look at, I say it was Too IMPORTANT to destroy

How many judges do you think or prosecutors, or forensic professionals would consider it good practice to permanently demolish the physical location of an active crime scene of a quadruple homicide before the defendant had even gone to trial… simply cus the building had become uncomfortable for the surrounding community?

u/Loud_Contact8413 — 2 months ago

DM Defense Squad: Now Accepting Applications for the PR campaign!!!

What if all the people defending DM and justifying every questionable action she made as her being a “drunken idiot” (we still need BCA tho to establish that as fact) or “obviously traumatized” are actually people involved in the cover up who were recruited online to infiltrate this sub and push a certain narrative?

Because the level of delusion is honestly one of the most impressive things I’ve seen in my lifetime!!

And no, I’m not establishing that as a fact. I’m actually capable of enough critical thinking to admit that would require evidence, unlike some of them who label their assumptions and interpretations as “fact” and “simple logic” (apparently cus someone has a firefighter cousin & the other witnessed someone ODing and did nothing so now theyre using their experience as a template for how every other young person must react to a completely different death situation)

The “everything has a perfectly innocent explanation, stop asking questions” routine is getting increasingly bizarre in this sub!!

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u/Loud_Contact8413 — 2 months ago

Certified Trauma Expert Because Someone’s Cousin Is a Firefighter

Since I’m apparently being reported for suicide for raising questions, here’s another one..

Imagine being scared enough around 4am to communicate your fears to BF, who was literally inside the same house, and then there are still hours before the 911 call around 11:58am
And somehow the explanation we’re supposed to accept is:
“She was just a traumatized drunky 🥺 nothing to question!”
So basically DM was like:
“Something is seriously wrong… anyway, goodnight 😴”

At what point are we allowed to ask what actually happened during those hours before 911 was called?
Fear. Confusion. Denial. Intoxication. Trauma.
None of those are magical little “NO FURTHER QUESTIONS” cards that automatically explain everything away.

And please, feel free to hit me with the “unless you’ve personally experienced a quadruple homicide in your college house…” argument again cus ur cousin or whoever the fuck is a firefighter and shared some anecdotes with you has given you the authority to turn your theories into FACTS

Apparently critical thinking requires a very specific trauma résumé:

4 victims! (Preferably 3 females and 1 male aged 20-21)…

College party house (and no not a regular house it has to be a shared college house)

K-Bar (it has to come with a sheath)

Only then are you apparently qualified to ask a basic question. (Or you could just have a firefighter cousin)

HUH???

And here’s another q;
If the explanation for DM’s actions is that intoxication, confusion & trauma prevented her from immediately calling 911, then what explains BF’s actions during those same hours?

I’ll start with my answer; NOTHING!

BF was actively communicating with DM, was apparently coherent enough to respond to her & ultimately participated in getting outside help!!

Delulus need to understand that “traumatized” doesn’t mean immune from scrutiny, and “drunk” doesn’t magically explain every gap in a timeline.

So by all means, look at this convo and tell me again it all makes sense cus DM was a drunky idiot (or you could say ur cousin is a firefighter that works too)

u/Loud_Contact8413 — 2 months ago

Holy Shit… But First, Let Me Shower!

When the house is a crime scene full of slaughterd people but It’s also……. “SHOWER TIME!!!”

Yeah 1 detail that deserves a LOT more scrutiny is DM taking a shower the morning after everything that allegedly happened the night before.

So DM supposedly spent the entire night hearing and witnessing circumstances serious enough that, by the next morning, you’d think the immediate priority would be “holy shit, are these people okay?” or maybe… idk… CALLING 911??

But apparently not. First things first: shower time!! 🚿

The timeline reportedly has her moving around the house, going upstairs, and then she shows up on bodycam with wet hair… which sure looks alot like someone had just taken a shower!!

And if you genuinely believed something catastrophic had happened inside that house, why would your first instinct be to lock yourself in the bathroom, take a nice refreshing shower like it’s just a nother Sunday morning??

“Hmm yes, I heard whimpering and saw a masked intruder and walked past the open door of my slaughtered roommate laying in the doors way… Better wash my hair real quick!!”
Yeah totally normal behavior!

Then there’s the whole story discrepancy.

DM reportedly said she and Bethany never left the room until HJ arrived. Except the phone activity and reported movements around the house don’t exactly appear consistent with that version; Going upstairs, phone movement, wet hair on bodycam… at some point you have to stop calling every inconsistency a coincidence to fit a certain narrative!!

Because there are alot of inconsistencies here!!

And THEN you have the alleged “cleanup.”
“You’re not gonna find DNA ’cus we did a clean up.”
Uh… I beg your fucking pardon??

Because nothing makes a crime scene conversation sound more innocent than casually mentioning that “we did a clean up.” Just a totally normal phrase to throw around after a night like that, nothing remarkable to hear in connection with a crime scene apparently.

If investigators were actually looking into whether someone attempted to clean up evidence, then a shower immediately afterward would obviously be something worth establishing… when it happened, why it happened, and what exactly happened beforehand!!

But sure. Maybe she just really needed that Sunday morning shower

Does the entire sequence of events make sense when you put all the details together?
I say NO!

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u/Loud_Contact8413 — 2 months ago

Uncensored BodyCam Footage

Does anyone know if there’s an uncensored version of the body cam footage available anywhere?

I could’ve sworn I saw a version a long time ago that showed more than the one that’s circulating now, but I can’t find it anymore.

It’s honestly driving me l crazy because I don’t know if I’m remembering an actual version, my reality is distorted or if it was removed over time.

Has anyone else had the same memory, or am I completely misremembering this?

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u/Loud_Contact8413 — 3 months ago

نهاية الأسبوع 🙌🏻

آكل لحالي ومعطيه المجتمع ظهري 😇💓 الفترة الأخيرة صرت زي اليابانيين آكل لحالي كثير

u/Loud_Contact8413 — 3 months ago

كيكة الجزر وكولد برو من كوستا فرع مستشفى الحرس

الكيكة حلاها قلييييييل مرة almost like a savoury pastry طعمها قديم كمان واضح ما يهتمو تكون فريش chewy بزيادة ماهي خفيفة تجربة ما تتكرر

‏3/10 for effort in making it

الكولد برو اجي عشانه 8/10

u/Loud_Contact8413 — 3 months ago

تجربتي مع فيسبوك ك "مراهقة أمريكية" في 2012

اسمي كان ميليسا والمفروض اني عايشة في ميامي فلوريدا. الشي الحقيقي الوحيد هو عمري؛ كان ١٧. الصور كانت fake وكنت منغمسة بالدور وانزل status واقعية. اعرف وقت مدارسهم وانزل اني طفشانة في البريك.. اعرف وقت holidays وانزل تهاني. كان عندي اكثر من ٤٠٠٠ صديق وصديق اتذكر فيسبوك ما عاد يسمح لي اضيف احد جديد. لغتي كانت كويسة باعتبار اني درست في مناهج حكومية قديمة.. الكل كان يطلب رقمي “so we can text sometime” وكنت اتهرب بطرق تضحك. دوبي الحين دخلت حسابي من ١٠ سنين nostalgia is so real!. ضحكت بصوت عالي على بعض ردودي.. كان فيني جرأة وثقة فقدت جزء كبير منها مع تقدم العمر.

تكلمت مع ناس كثير واعتقد منهم تطورت لغتي. Forever grateful 💓

اتركم مع وحدة من المحادثات 😂

u/Loud_Contact8413 — 4 months ago

آيس تي الربيع خوخ

طعم الشاي واضح. الخوخ نكهته مو مؤذية خفيفة ; اخف من ليبتون بس اقوى من ZOI. المفروض محلى بفواكه وهنا يجي طعم الحلا اكثر من ZOI. احسه بيرفكت balance.

Final verdict: 8/10

Would buy again.

u/Loud_Contact8413 — 4 months ago

مترددة اكل سلطتي في انتظار المرضى

متدربة ومالي مكان آكل فيه.. لو رحت السيارة مشوار يخلص البريك 💔

u/Loud_Contact8413 — 4 months ago

آيسكريم smoothies الامل 8/10

تغير طعمه عن قبل صار مائي أكثر بس ستل حامض ولذيذ 💓

u/Loud_Contact8413 — 4 months ago

صرفيات السيتالوبرام كاثرة. يا ترى ليش الكل صار مكتئب فجأة؟

u/Loud_Contact8413 — 5 months ago