u/MalloSF

On a rewatch, I gotta go back to this debate: Do you all think Carol could have left Lizzie behind instead of killing her? I don't think they would have met up with Lizzie again. I think Lizzie would have continued playing with walkers near the house, kept feeding them, and trying to make friends with them. I think during one of her playtime sessions with the walkers it would have turned deadly, and eventually gotten her killed. That would have solved the problem on its own. I could also see Lizzie choosing to let a walker kill her because she wanted to be one of them, like she tried on the train tracks in front of Mika.

If they did bump into Lizzie after leaving her behind or she went looking for them and she tried to hurt them directly then at that point they could have killed her. In the end, I think Carol and Tyreese should have taken Judith and left Lizzie behind. I think killing her caused more trauma for Carol and Tyreese.

On a second note, I'm amazed by Tyreese's restraint with Carol after her confession. Do you think he should have forgiven her?

I love this quote: "Nightmares end, but they shouldn't end who you are." - Bob's words to Rick.

Bob was grateful that Rick accepted him into the group and gave him a second chance in life. He went out reminding Rick not to lose faith, humanity, morality, and his sense of self, despite the trauma they all experienced. They all grapple with how much of themselves has to change or if they can remain true to who they are in the zombie world and that's true of the real world too.

I'm going to be applying to an SF city job. It requires an in-person exam as one of the steps. Does anyone know if they make accommodations for out of state applicants in terms of giving them ample notice of when and where the exam will take place? Or allowing another option for out of state applicants, like taking it online? I would need to have time to book a flight and lodge there in order to take the exam if in-person is the only option. Do you think it's reasonable to email the HR person on the job posting to inquire?

I'm on a rewatch. Andrea realized she was too harsh on Dale in the end when she said to Glenn about Dale: "I have my share of regrets, but I think he knew how much we cared for him" when Glenn was fixing the camper and was frustrated at himself for not backing up Dale on the Randall situation.

I don't think Dale took Andrea's choice away after my second viewing. He was trying to save his friend who he cared a lot about. He was willing to go so far as to stay at the CDC and die with her if that was what she was going to choose. He wasn't going to let her go down by herself alone, he'd die going with her. Almost like how a soldier will lay down their life for their fellow comrades/brothers because of their profound bond during war. That was the choice Dale was making and she made the choice that she didn't want his death on her conscience. I understand she felt her hand was forced, but she was depressed and mourning her sister's death. Not in her right frame of mind at the time.

Wouldn't any of them in the group try to save the people they loved from making that type of decision especially in the throes of grief over a recent death of a loved one? I still think everyone would try to stop their loved ones from making that choice despite it being the end of the world times with people having the right to opt out. I think that Rick absolutely would have tried to save Lori if she tried that, I think the same if Carol tried, Daryl would have stopped her. There were examples where they did try to stop others, Rick with Jim, T-Dog tried to stop Jacqui, etc.

I dislike all the hate Dale got for this. Think of Maggie and Lori trying to save Beth when she was suicidal. Andrea projected her stuff about choice onto the Beth situation treating her previous pain as if she knew what pain Beth was going through. Beth's pain was her own and Andrea would have no way of truly knowing if it was similar. Someone who is suicidal is not in their right mind regardless of circumstances-zombie apocalypse or not. Beth was a teenager in pain and deeply loved by her family. Andrea was wrong to leave and not watch her. Especially when that trust was put on her by Lori to watch Beth's safety. That was her job and if she disagreed with the job and how the Beth situation was being handled, she should have not agreed to watch her. Imagine if Beth had succeeded and what that would have done to Maggie and Hershel. It also raises the question about giving people time to grieve, and time to heal together, to get to healthier place to not make that choice. Don't get me wrong, I like Andrea's character overall, but I think she was wrong on these issues. In the CDC, she wanted to die in that moment-but not overall. She wanted to live during Woodbury. By then, she wanted to save everyone so that no one else got hurt. After time, her feelings of pain changed to hope.