▲ 18 r/zelda

[TotK] What Sage is your favorite?

I have been thinking about this apparently I had varying responses from people who have played both Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, and most people seem to lean towards either Tulin for his ability, or Sidon for his design and character progression, but I found a surprisingly great amount of Riju fans.

However with Yunobo and Mineru, Yunobo is only good with his ability but his character is loathed by many people, and no one I’ve seen cared about or used Mineru that much, but now that people are now composed enough, what do you guys like best on a personal level?

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u/MattTheAquaFlame — 11 hours ago

Newcomers to Hyrule Warriors 2

Honestly yesterday when you all talked about the new characters in Hyrule Warriors 2, if it were to be in development it's time that I'd talk about the new characters I'd like to see, a lot of you gave out some good suggestions for newcomers, now it's my turn.

New Characters

These are the new characters I want to see in Hyrule Warriors 2, whether they are popular characters, or they're characters that are requested, and make the most sense.

Groose (Skyward Sword): Why didn't they put Groose in Hyrule Warriors? He would have been the best 3rd Option for Skyward Sword if Midna from Twilight Princess didn't take up 2 slots on the roster for no other Hylia Demise reason, or if Agatha from Twilight Princess wasn't even added at all, like I said in my returners and Cuts, I think Groose should be given the Gauntlets and Boots instead of Link and Linkle, and mix up his Moveset so that it wouldn't be a blatant copycat, like have him do Barehand Combat kinda like the Monk Class in various RPGs, with a miniture Groosinator as his Special Attack.

Saria (Ocarina of Time): Honestly this is one of the most obvious choices for another Ocarina of Time Representative, I was convinced she was meant to have the Spear but Koei Tecmo didn't have time to make a new model for Saria, so they gave it to Lana instead and called it a day, but I think she could have a different kind of weapon like a Staff, to use the power of the Great Deku Tree, alongside having Deku Scrubs to summon for a long ranged attack.

Twinrova (Ocarina of Time/Oracle of Seasons/Ages): A lot of you made a lot of good points about Twinrova being a good addition to the roster, make them the main villains instead of Volga, in the plot of Ocarina of Time they were the ones that raised Ganondorf to be their king, and they are the most loyal servants to Ganon, and in the Oracle Games they sent Onox and Veran to change the past in Labrynna, and put the Seasons in Turmoil in Holodrom, maybe their role is to resurrect Ganon by possessing the Guardian of Time to go to different times to aid Ganon, and lay waste to Hyrule, and it is up to Linkle to go save them, while Link finds the Master Sword before they do.

Their moveset would be a little similar to their boss fights in Ocarina of Time and the Oracle Games if you imported your Save in the opposite game to continue the story of the Oracle Games, and their element is different depending on what their Strong Attack is like, switching from Fire to Ice (As a Water Element)

Hilda (A Link Between Worlds): The roster really needs more villains, Yuga was one of the most fun characters to use in Hyrule Warriors, but he's also one of the least popular villains in the series, but honestly I don't feel like Yuga is all that bad of a villain, it's just that his motivations are basically Ganon's Motivation, ironically he flipped the script on Ganon and kept his status as the main villain.

Hilda on the other hand, her being the Lorule Parallel to Zelda, is a lot more popular than Yuga, since Link is Brave, and Zelda is Wise, Ravio is a Coward, and Hilda is a Fool, I think Hilda should have an opposing moveset to Zelda as a Darkness based character, like Ravio with the Rental Hammer, playing a little similar to Wizzro but much faster, and her Special move could be a little similar to Dracula's Demonic Megiddo in Castlevania.

Ricky (Oracle of Seasons/Ages): You know companion characters in Hyrule Warriors isn't anything new but why not have someone unique? I think having a Boxing Kangaroo would be cool to have in the Roster, think about it, it could have a good Fire Element to it, this is a personal thing for me, and Ricky makes more sense than Dimitri and Moosh.

Vaati (Four Swords Trilogy): In the first Four Swords, Vaati was a nothing burger but Minish Cap gave him more of a Backstory and character than in the other 2 Four Swords games (Still upsetting that he didn't make an appearance in Triforce Heroes.) and this was before Ganon was even on the rise, I feel like he was robbed as well in Hyrule Warriors, so he could work in the sequel, but honestly he should be a little differently as a Darkness character than the other villains in Hyrule Warriors, like he could extend his hands, and fire off some Eye Lasers.

Linebeck (Phantom Hourglass): Honestly this Roster needs more Joke Characters, Linebeck is a coward and a liar at the start, he only was there for the treasure but after realizing the Ghost Ship has no treasure, he was about to leave, but the Ocean King offered him a Wish in exchange of helping to stop Bellum, and after Link takes care of Bellum, Linebeck had an offer to buy a new ship with the Treasure the Ocean King could offer, but he wanted his old ship back instead after Bellum sank it.

I think he'll probably use some of his items used on the S.S. Linebeck and use it as a substitute for Daphnes if Daphnes doesn't make it in the next game, like the Grappling Hook, the Cannon, and probably miniature Bombchus as a Fire Element.

Sidon, Riju, Revali, and Daruk (Breath of the Wild): Technically these would be pretty unique picks for the roster, but I'd like a change in Riju's moveset from Age of Calamity, because I don't really like her playstyle in Age of Calamity, maybe her Dual Scimitars in Tears of the Kingdom would work with her moveset, as for Sidon, Revali and Daruk, I actually like their playstyles, but Daruk probably should have a tweak in his moveset.

Rauru (Tears of the Kingdom): I gotta confess this right now, Tears of the Kingdom is my least favorite Zelda Game by far, more than the likes of Zelda 2, Phantom Hourglass, or Triforce Heroes, however with it already out, there's really no point in excluding it, and Rauru best represents that game, I mean we could implement the Ultrahand in his moveset, but I'd rather exclude Weapon Merging because it'd be unfair for other characters.

That's all the characters I want most in Hyrule Warriors 2, but honestly knowing Koei Tecmo they usually bring in OCs for their Crossover Warriors games, Fire Emblem Warriors with Rowan and Lianna, and Hyrule Warriors with Lana and Cia, but honestly the OCs I'd like to have are like a new Goron Character, a new Zora character, and a new Gerudo character.

New Weapons

Tri-Rod (Zelda): I decided to cut the Dominion Rod last time, and with Echoes of Wisdom out and it is a great game in my opinion, I think Zelda should get a better weapon than the Dominion Rod, she can summon echoes to attack, kinda similar to the Calamity Gate, Moblins, Darknuts, and Lynels could be implemented in her moveset depending on what Strong Attack she uses.

Bow of Light (Zelda): I've decided to replace the Baton and give Zelda the Bow of Light instead because it worked better in Age of Calamity, but I think the Special Attack for Zelda with the Rapier should be changed if that's the case.

Kodachi (Impa): No Explanation, it is a really powerful weapon making Impa one of the best characters in Age of Calamity.

Bracelets (Darunia): I excluded Yunobo from the Roster because I looked online to see if there are any Yunobo Fans, and apparently I found...Nothing, so to compensate, I think Darunia should have some of that, but instead of eating a Rock Roast, he puts his knuckles together to power up his attacks.

Crystal Staff (Ruto) Like I said, Ruto is my main but her weapon is just middle of the road, but is fun, but to compensate for Mipha's absence, I think Ruto should have some of her moveset, with a Staff instead of a Trident because Ganondorf, and Sidon already have Tridents themselves.

Whip (Linkle): Since I'm giving Groose the Pegasus Boots, I'm giving Linkle a different weapon, just make her a Whip Wielding Belmont, except without the Sub Weapons, and Grand Cross to avoid controversy and a lawsuit from Konami.

Makar (Medli) My complaint about Medli is that her weapon kinda sucks, honestly I would like Makar to be Medli's companion for her 2nd weapon.

That is all I can think of for Newcomers and new weapons, but what do you guys think?

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u/MattTheAquaFlame — 7 days ago

Hyrule Warriors 2 Likeliness of Returners.

You know when I was playing Hyrule Warriors and other Zelda Games, I was thinking about a Hyrule Warriors 2, that isn't Age of Calamity or Age of Imprisonment, and what the Roster might be like, don't get me wrong I like a lot of these characters, it's just that I get the feeling some would be able to make it, or replaced with someone else, so here's the explanations

Mainstays

These are the ones I'm confident that will guarantee their return, they are way too iconic and popular.

Link with the Hylian/Master Sword, Zelda with the Rapier, Ganondorf, Impa, Linkle with the Crossbows, Midna with the Shackle, Fi, Tetra, Toon Link with the Hero Sword, Tingle, Ghirahim, Zant, and Marin.

High Probability

These are characters that I am optimistic about returning but not 100% sure.

Link with the Fire Rod: I think it would be cool to see Link with the Fire Rod, but I'm not too confident about it, it maybe will go to another character, or be cut altogether.

Darunia: As the Pioneer for the Gorons going forward to the series, but lorewise he's not the first Goron we see, that's Gorko, I said Lorewise not releasewise, Skyward Sword came out in 2011, while Ocarina of time came out in 1998 if we're factoring in Release Dates, but Skyward Sword takes place before Ocarina of Time if we're factoring in the Official Zelda Timeline.

My reasoning as to what is setting Darunia back a little is because there is a small probability that he might get replaced with either Yunobo or Daruk, but I doubt it.

Ruto: The Matriarch of the Zora Race was one of the most disliked characters in the series, because of the last Child Dungeon in OoT Jabu Jabu's belly, but she gained some popularity because of Hyrule Warriors, she was one of the most fun characters to play as despite her weapon being decent at best and subpar at worst, and I have a confession to make she's my main in Hyrule Warriors.

The same thing with Darunia, which I'm still doubtful, but there's a small chance she might get replaced with either Mipha or Sidon. If you feel differently about both Darunia or Ruto, feel free to leave them in the comments.

Skull Kid and Young Link: I know these guys are a popular duo best representing Majora's Mask, but there is a probability that they're gonna get their movesets changed, for something else, I'm not too sure about it.

Medli: She has a good shot at returning but she kinda sucks, there are 2 ways it could go, either she gets a tweak in her moveset like add Makar as her ally, or cut her altogether.

Toon Zelda: Best Representing Spirit Tracks, I've gotta say she isn't as fun to play as as the other Light Wielding fighters, but honestly Spirit Tracks Zelda is one of the most popular members of the Blood of the Goddess just like with the likes of Tetra, Skyward Sword Zelda, and Breath of the Wild Zelda, maybe a tweak in her moveset should help her a bit.

Ravio: You know when I first played as Ravio, I actually loved playing as him and he became my Dark and Lightning user going forward, but A Link Between Worlds hasn't been under Nintendo's Radar recently, and I'm hoping it gets a port one day on the Switch 2, there may be a chance that he'll get a moveset change, but there's also a chance he and Yuga might be replaced with Aghanim from A Link to the Past.

Maybe

These are characters I'm not entirely sure will return, and not entirely sure will be cut

Lana with the Sorceress Tome: In the lore of Hyrule Warriors, Lana is one piece of the Guardian of Time with the duty to protect the Triforce, Cia being the other, but by the end of it, Lana and Cia united once again, and the Guardian of Time resumed her duties, so I'm just unsure if they're gonna combine both Lana and Cia together and give her 2 weapons, or cut Lana altogether and replace her with a brand new character.

Sheik: Before you get your Pitchforks and Torches out, hear me out, I admit that Sheik is one of the most unique characters in the game and is amazing in the game, but I gotta be real here, Sheik is just Zelda again, and her only appearance in the series was Ocarina of Time.

Maybe they might combine both Sheik and Zelda together, or give the Harp to Link instead because in Skyward Sword, Link gets the Goddess Harp from Zelda after completing the Lanayru Mining Facility.

Link with the Spinner: In Hyrule Warriors, Link has the most weapons in the game, because he's the main character, but the Spinner only appeared in 1 game, Twilight Princess, the Dungeon Item you get in the Arbiters Grounds, and the weapon to defeat Stallord with, I am not confident that it would return and be replaced with a different weapon but we'll see.

Volga: Volga is a fan favorite in the game, but here's the underlying problem, after Cia's tale and when she is dealt with, Volga falls right out of the plot, and hasn't made another appearance until Never, I believe it was Koei Tecmo's way of implementing Volvagia into the Roster without going through a situation that Sakurai did with Ridley in Smash, but I'm mixed on if he were to make a reappearance as the next main villain or not.

King Daphnes: Don't get me wrong, King Daphnes is a great companion, in Wind Waker he has been Link's Companion as the King of Red Lions, but honestly on the other hand, I get the feeling that he might be cut in favor for another companion like Ricky from the Oracle Games, Ezlo from Minish Cap or Linebeck from Phantom Hourglass.

Replacable

These are weapons I am not very keen on keeping around whether they should go to another character or be merged with an existing character.

Link with the Gauntlets, and Linkle With the Boots: Like I said, Link is the character with the most weapons, but despite the Gauntlets being cool, and the Boots being...Good at best, but mediocre at worst, they both share the same element, Lightning, so instead of keeping them separate, I'm just gonna go on a limb here and just merge both weapons, and give them to and add Groose into the roster, they're both perfect for him.

Link with the Horse: I don't really like this weapon all that much, basically it would've made more sense if it went to Malon from Ocarina of Time, the Oracle Games, and Minish Cap.

Lana with the Spear: You know despite this weapon being OK, I don't feel like it fits Lana all that well, instead it could've gone to Saria from Ocarina of Time.

Twili Midna: I really love Twili Midna with the Mirror, but honestly why does Midna have to take up 2 slots on the roster for no other reason? Is it because they loved Midna so much? Is it because they made more models, and making them 2 separate characters made more sense? Someone please give me an answer? I'd rather have both merge together so we wouldn't have to deal with 4 Twilight Princess representatives.

Zelda with the Baton: No Explanation, this weapon sucks, it should go to Toon Link instead.

Cut

These are the characters and weapons I'm really pessimistic about returning, and is most likely gonna have to be cut whether they might be replaced with a new character, or downsized to make room for new characters for a bigger roster.

Cia: I'm just gonna say it now, it's a similar situation with Lana, maybe they'll make the Guardian of Time an NPC or just 1 character, but I don't know, also bringing back Cia would be pointless at this point.

Lana with the Summoning Gate: I've already explained, no explanation, this weapon sucks, it is cut.

Wizzro: I know there are some fans of this character, but I'm not too keen on keeping Wizzro around, because he might be replaced with a new enemy such as a Lynel, upgrade Stalmaster from an enemy to a playable character to replace him, or something.

Agatha: The only relevance she had in Twilight Princess is an NPC, she gives you a bigger wallet in exchange for Golden Bugs, and that's it, also Twilight Princess is the most represented in Hyrule Warriors, Ocarina of Time had Sheik, Darunia, and Ruto, Skyward Sword only had Fi, and Ghirahim, but Twilight Princess had Agatha, Midna, Zant, and Twili Midna, and Agatha sucks from my experience, her attacks are slow and weak, and I really don't like her Strong Attack, the only use I had for her was her Special Attack, so yeah.

Link with the Great Fairy: Do I even need to explain how situational and bad this weapon is?

Toon Link with the Sand Wand: I'm not gonna sugarcoat it, I don't really like this weapon all that much, so if the Baton is going to Toon Link, then I wouldn't count on the Sand Rod returning, besides the only appearances the Sand Wand had was in Spirit Tracks, and A Link Between Worlds, that's it, making this weapon even more pointless.

Zelda with the Dominion Rod: the Dominion Rod is situational, honestly I thought it was good for the first few stages when you're using it, but it becomes redundant and very difficult to control, since your Strong Attacks depends on what statue to control, but without them, the Dominion Rod is useless.

Yuga: Sadly one of the most fun characters to play as is honestly one of the least popular villains in the series, don't get me wrong, I don't think Yuga is all that bad, in terms of actions he gets a lot done, but motivations? Not so much, but compared to the likes of Onox from OoS, and Lady Maud from TriForce Heroes, he's more goated than both of them, but I am not confident about his inclusion in the next game.

But what do you guys think?

u/MattTheAquaFlame — 8 days ago
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[Other] Would you like to see a Zelda Fighting Game?

Honestly when playing Hyrule Warriors, and watching Thorgi and playing Fighting Games, I have been thinking about what a Zelda Traditional 2D Fighting Game would be like, what do you think?

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u/MattTheAquaFlame — 13 days ago

I Made a Roster

I can explain, 4 years ago, I made this, and I'd gotta be frank, this one was when I was first making a roster, I cut the Star Fox characters because back then I believed that Nintendo didn't care about Star Fox anymore after Zero, but now that the Mario Galaxy Movie came out, and Star Fox got a remake and sold like Hot Cakes, there is really no reason to cut the Star Fox characters, and I cut the EarthBound characters and Captain Falcon because they haven't had a new game in years, I also cut Sheik for Impa because Sheik's only appearance outside spinoffs was Ocarina of Time, and she's just Zelda again, and I personally wanted Impa in over her, I cut Pichu because it sucks, I cut Lucario because it hasn't been relevant in years, and Greninja and Charizard outperformed it, I cut a majority of Fire Emblem Characters and added Alear but since Fortune's Weave is coming out what's the point?

I cut Pyra and Mythra, because Xenoblade 3 is the new kid on the block and is more critically acclaimed than its predecessor, I wanted the Hunter from Monster Hunter because Monster Hunter is one of Capcom's flagship franchises, and I added Gunvolt because it was my Indie Rep.

Looking back on it, this roster is pretty bad, next time I make a roster like this, I should have more critical and logical thinking.

u/MattTheAquaFlame — 17 days ago