u/Max169well

Anyone know the rules for the placement of the hashmarks? Like we know now that from 2022-present the hasmarks are 28 yards from the sidelines.

Before 2022 they were 24 yards from the sidelines.

The question is when were they set at 24 yards?

We know the NFL had them from 1945 to 1971 set at 20 yards, before that, 15 yards which was changed from 10 yards in 1935 after their adoption by the NFL in 1932.

But looking at old Grey Cup games (and a lack of access to rule books from the era) as well as using the photos provided from 1945 -1976 I can only make some estimates.

So from the 1932 Grey Cup game (first image) it looks like they are scrimmaging right close from the sideline so we know in 1932, there was no hashmark rule in Canada.

From the 1946 Grey Cup (second image) which is the earliest I can find, the hashmarks look like they are 10 to 15 yards from the sideline though I am going to say 10 yards away.

From the 1952 Grey Cup (third image) it seems like with this frontage could be 10-12 yards wide from the base of the right goalpost. Add on 3 yards for the half the width of the goal posts. So 15 yards ish from middle of the field to the hashmarks which would be 30 yards between them. So 17 yards from sideline to hashmarks. Or maybe it’s 15 at low estimates.

This image from the 1958 Grey Cup (4th pic) looks like it’s still 15 ish yards but 1959 (5th pic) looks like it’s further in, say maybe 20 yards? Which remains the norm (6th pic 1960, 7th pic 1965,) till around 1970 (8th pic) where it look like the standard distance of 24 yards that we have known for a while.

Did the CRU (later CFL) follow the NFL’s changes when it came to hashmarks? Or are my estimates correct?

Saw this on gameonottawa.com

Not really impressed with it.

With Labour Day being a month away and no leaks so far, here are the logos I want to see be used as the base for the 2026 CFL traditions merch.

BC, that 1980’s logo that contrast their main one. Honestly it’s the only one that they haven’t used so far, I think the paw while good on the helmet lacks the ability to carry a retro line.

Calgary, sticking with Montreal going with their 90’s/2000’s logo I want Calgary to embrace this one.

Edmonton, not much more can be used other than their 1950’s inspired logo.

Hamilton, big Tiger face from their late 90’s look, please bring that uniform back.

Montreal, sticking with the cartoony look, their Alt logo debuted in 2005 that was on their best uniform ever.

Ottawa, with the Renegades name being tossed around now by the organization, it’s time to bring back the logo, I will drop my whole pay check on anything Ottawa Renegades.

Saskatchewan, again, a limited look, though about their red and black era but we need to stick to defined lines and with their 1966 uniforms coming back for a game, pair it with their logo of the time!

Toronto, Jason or fuck you.

Winnipeg, again, not much to use, their 90’s logo didn’t do it for me, so swing hard to the 1950’s.

Call me old fashion but this needs to make a drastic comeback.

So moving on with the next team in my series, the name stealers from out west. And no this is not cause of the game this past weekend and yes I am still salty about it.

For those who want to see my Ottawa one that started this series, here is the link. It also explains the rules of this series.

But fun fact, this was the first concept I actually started on. just took me a bit longer to execute since I had to completely recreate a logo from scratch but was integral to the design as it's the main inspiration for the home, away and alt. The iconic wrap around helmet logo. And I decided to also take inspiration from the old Seattle Seahawks uniforms. But also added a texless version to the pants! The other inspiration is the 1990-2004 uniforms. The main sponsor patches are for the national sport, Canadian Pacific Railway and for the local, Pilsner, cause what is more Rider Pride than being in Pill Country?

The Home features the classic green look with silver pants and socks. The away is white with green pants and a white helmet (which is think is a weak look but interchangeability is key here so Icywhite sickos, have at it). The alternate is all black with black pants and green socks. also note the logo and 13th man pants decal changes colour to contrast with the uniform.

The retro are your typical early 1980's retro that they continue to wear but with a white one too cause there needs to be a home and away for Labour Day.

The city connect jersey is a better version of their Rider Pride uniform that takes inspiration from their retros. more of the blitz green and rider green. less blandness and also breaking a rule for my series and added a 7th uniform which is a white version of this uniform but for jersey only. The local ad patch also changes for these two with Next Gen being the local sponsor.

This wraps up Saskatchewan, now I am not going to release these all rapid fire like I did last year since these actually since I am trying to be more creative with these which means I am also going to try to create the logos my self. and to give you a hint for the next one, the hint is line of work, Military aviation. I wanna see who gets it!

So it's that time of the year again where I head back into the lab and once again try to stretch the limitations of the technology of my time to which I am limited to. This year, it's different, 2025 was me testing the tech to see what I can come up with. 2026 was me perfecting how I would like the CFL to look in my opinion. This year 2027, I will be digging deep to focus on something about a team to use that as the inspiration for each uniform set. No logo I use for this series is mine unless noted otherwise.

Not copying, nor perfecting what already is, I am trying to test my creativity and abilities with it.

Each team will get a home, away, alt uniform which will have interchangeable elements so you can mix and match each look. Then will be a home and away retro set, then a city connect uniform. Something about the team's or city's history to connect with,

So despite how my current feelings for my team are, being that we are shit as fuck, I still love this team and decided this year to start with them.

The main thing I am inspired by with this uniform is Plaid and the 1996 Rough Riders logo which I am dubbing the proto-Big Joe. So the Home has a black helmet. the away a white (for all you Icy white sickos) and the alt gets a red bucket. As much as I wanted to keep the saw blade, I couldn't but added definition to the modern R and also added Proto-Joe to the sleeves. I wanted shoulder Numbers but sadly the tech was not allowing different colour shoulder numbers than the back and front still so yeah. The helmet decals continue the tradition of having French decals on the helmet so the league logo, Helmet bumpers and East division decals are all in French. The sponsors on the jerseys are the normal Canadian Pacific Railways for the national and TD Bank for the local.

The Retros: So I am already breaking my rule but with a team like Ottawa, we got 3 franchises to draw from. The first retro is your average Ottawa Rough Riders retro and the Other one is the 2005 Renegades home uniform.

The City connect jersey it the most interesting one for me, It's not just an homage to the Original Ottawa Senators, but considering with the retros I had to draw from 3 franchises, I'mma add in a 4th one to the mix and if you know the history of Ottawa football and Hockey in the early 1900's you would know the huge overlap with both teams, to the point where the Senators won the city's first Grey Cup in 1925 and 1926. So decided to do the barber poll look here to homage to that. And no main helmet decal to be more of a throwback. Even more so the TD bank logo is actually their pre-1955 merger Dominion Bank logo.

This game will not (totally will be) a massacre.

So as the sub’s premier uniform person and also the saltiest REDBLACKS fan on the sub I will give my unwanted takes.

Good: PANTS STRIPES! FUCKING PANTS STRIPES! MY FUCKING GOD! ACTUAL FUCKING PANTS STRIPES! This isn’t some low effort (ish) uniform that has zero details below the belt like the home uniform does or anything else new era has put out (except Edmonton’s current look). This has a detail! I hope it was someone in Ottawa who insisted on it cause we all know New Era hates detail below the belt.

Other good? Two colour word mark and pairing it with the black helmet does go hard.

The Meh?

It is obvious that the team was going in this direction to go back to the Rough Riders look. But I wish it was just a throwback and not a permanent change. There was nothing wrong with the previous away look and it was great, sad to see it go. I want to go back to the Plaid and lumberjack look since I guess the saw blade will only appear on the alts for the remainder of the year. But it’s not a hill I would die on to be honest.

Also, the “R” on the shoulders needs to be outlined in red. I’m going to say it as well for the home uniform too. Outline that shit in red.

The bad

WHITE SOCKS FUCK THAT SHIT. This needs to be paired with black socks and the home and away needs to be paired with red socks if they are going black pants and black socks if they are going with white pants and I hope they start pairing the home with white pants and and start giving it a fucking pants stripe.

Also, never been a fan on the fact the stripes are on the shoulder. It looks odd. Also, hate the fact that last year, they moved the word mark down to accommodate a massive TD bank patch. Which moved everything down and just liked like the guys were pulling their jerseys too tight into their pants. It ruins the balance and they did it here too. TD, you don’t need that big of a patch, you are a green splash on a red, black and white uniform, complementary colour of red, everyone can see you.

I’m surprised we didn’t lose to the bye