I have a feeling that the science community will have a greater ontological shock than the religious community because the superiority complex.
Thoughts?
I can’t help but be frustrated with this guy. Besides the fact that he has always been pretty arrogant in interviews by interrupting people and acting like the smartest guy in the room, he also switches narrative unapologetically. The saddest thing for me, is that in the UFO community there’s quite a few people who share my frustration, but in out there the “normies” will actually consume his new take and may even use him as a guide in the subject. I like the fact that the internet never forgets
These are not hard conclusions, just the direction my thinking has been going while trying to understand what their motive or purpose might be. I also have a feeling that whatever journey they’re on, we may eventually be joining it in some way.
Here it is:
• Experience may be a resource. Every lived life could add something to a larger pool of consciousness, the same way history adds maturity, depth, and value to a civilization.
• Knowledge may not be enough. A civilization with endless intelligence and wisdom might eventually run out of ways to surprise itself. The only way to create genuinely new experience may be to grow new beings from scratch, under slightly different conditions.
• Continuity may need a familiar template. If new civilizations are being seeded, some shared base structure, like the humanoid form or a familiar interface, might prevent too much “translation drift” between them. You need variation, but also enough familiarity for the lineage to stay connected.
• Life is the real teacher. The ability to understand deeper reality may not come from information alone. It may come through the full arc of birth, struggle, trial, error, love, loss, maturity, and awareness. You can’t really shortcut lived experience.
• There may be a “cloud of experience.” Not just a database of knowledge, but a pool of lived reality. Something that contains what it actually felt like to be a person, a civilization, a species, or maybe even something beyond that.
• Access may depend on awareness. The pool might be open in full, but what you can absorb depends on your level of development. The more conscious and evolved you become, the more you’re able to understand and take in.
• Disconnection creates danger. A civilization that is not deeply connected mind-to-mind can be steered by dangerous or high-influence individuals. Without transparency, one distorted mind can push an entire society toward failure.
• Higher governance may be collective, not political. If everyone has enough agency and enough access to shared truth, governance may stop being about control. It may become more like collective consensus, where society finds a natural balance.
• Advanced beings may “garden” civilizations. Not by controlling every outcome, but by creating the conditions for growth, nudging probabilities, and allowing variation to happen naturally. Too much control would ruin the purpose.
• Truth may be singular, but perspective remains individual. There may only be one truth, but each being experiences it from a different angle. Maybe individuality is not about having separate truths, but separate perspectives on the same truth.
• Consciousness may have gravity. A dense point of awareness might have a kind of pull to it. It may attract or initiate realities, dimensions, or experiences the same way mass bends space.
• The endgame may be graduation. A species eventually outgrows dependence on its original planet, almost like leaving the nest. From there, it may begin helping other civilizations grow, or eventually reach something closer to an “architect level” of existence.
That’s the rough idea.
Maybe UAP are not just visitors, observers, or scientists. Maybe they are further along in the same process we are inside of right now.
I’ve been thinking about this angle. What if the Greys are strict caretakers or managers of whatever program humanity is inside of? Maybe other civilizations, Nordics, human looking beings, maybe others, want to interact with us more directly, but the Greys are basically standing at the gate saying “Stay away. They’re not ready yet.” And because nobody likes a strong caretaker, especially one that operates in the shadows, people naturally interpret them as evil, demonic, cold, manipulative, etc.
But maybe from their point of view, they’re preventing interference too early. I remember reading some random abduction/contact story where a Nordic being supposedly told someone something along the lines of, “You need to tell the Greys to fuck off (not verbatim).” That stuck with me because it creates this interesting possibility, maybe there are different factions or civilizations with different opinions on humanity. Maybe some want to help us wake up faster, while the Greys are the ones enforcing the rules of the program. Maybe the Greys are the ones ultimately “in charge” of the human experiment. Not because they own us in some evil way, but because they’re responsible for the timeline, the pacing, and the conditions of disclosure. At some point, they do let us go. Not in a prison break way, but in an unveiling way. Like humanity reaches a certain level of awareness, collective intelligence, or maturity, and then the restrictions come off. The gate opens. Other civilizations can interact more openly. The “caretaker” role ends.
This could also explain why governments or religious institutions may have interpreted them as demonic or hostile. A strict caretaker can look like a prison guard when you don’t understand the full picture.
I’m not saying this is the truth. Just a thought experiment.
I do enjoy and follow the video releases and such, but my focus has shifted. I’m definitely convinced that we’re not alone here on this planet, so my focus mostly now is the reason behind it. What is your belief in regard to their presence here?
I’ve been working quite a bit towards opening up. I get into my meditative state of “clear” and I get random images pop up (which is nothing new for me. It’s how I find solutions to problems) which I follow, never let it go to waste. The other night I was able to reach a field of energy, which was similar to what I experienced in a mushroom ceremony I did. I wanna know, what is your routine? If you were to describe your physical mental position? In the past, I would extend from the back of my head outward, but recently I started focusing behind my eyes and it seems to give a better result. Another interesting thing that’s been happening is, before I wake up from my sleep I become aware and I start receiving very fast and erratic geometric images that, imagine an image with geometrics under a layer of water and then disturbing the water, and many entities usually appear as well. Need advice 🙏
I’ve done DMT about five times now. On my second last one, it felt underwhelming, as in “nothing new here for you. Like I said, there’s nothing here but an amplification of what you already know. There’s nothing scary about it and they will know”. I came out of it, with this empty feeling of nothing new to learn. This feeling has been following me, where I’m not getting anymore mind blowing breakthroughs in my journey of exploring new concepts. It’s like I’ve hit a unification (there’s lots to explore still, but the vibe feels like “knowledge winter”), and it’s a dull feeling. I did a trip this past weekend, and I literally dont remember anything from it, which is very strange since I remember every detail usually. Who here has experienced the same? What followed?
What if one of the reasons for disclosure is to allow these technologies to be exposed which would then allow the US to use them in their military ambitions. They cannot use them now, cause this would expose them. Military plus other things to put to use
My last session (third session overall), has left me feeling a bit empty. I did the usual, got to the realm which looked like the usual, this time it felt more like a mall full of attractions. The message was, “they will all know, there’s nothing out of the ordinary here”. It made me feel as tho, the realm was nothing new to me and that it’s just an amplification of what’s already existing. I came to be feeling underwhelmed and a bit disappointed. It’s been a week, and I can’t shake off this feeling where my spiritual self has disappeared somehow. I don’t feel things in the same way and it’s as tho I lost something. I’m not depressed or anything, cause im in a mindset now of opening up to something greater like a student, so I’m treating this as a means of a “lesson”. Has this happened to anyone, and if yes, what happened next?