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"198X" and it features CLASSIC Freddy

I feel like the whole "the souls split themselves between the funtimes and the shells" kinda stupid when the main source is the endos, not the shells.

As seen on the fourth closet where the souls haunts the endoskeletons, thats why Afton melts the endos with a furnace.

With that, i been wondering for why "save them" is featured on the week before

A phrase exclusive to the minigame of the DCI, as if, the souls of the Toy animatronics are on the fnaf 1 building.

But weren't the Toys scrapped? Yes, destroyed? We see their shells on fnaf 3, but their endos fate is unknown

I woudn't be surprised if remaining endo 02's were placed around the fnaf 1 pizzeria for parts to reuse.

On fnaf 3, on the Chica's party minigame, we see 4 cupcakes and a 5th one chasing down Toy Chica.

A clear forshadow of Follow Me, and it utilizes Toy Chica as the main character.

On the topic, if AndrewDCI is true (a theory that i believe)

If he's the one to cause the springlocks to malfunction?

After all, he attached his soul towards William.

Why do i think thats the case?

In every other continuity, a springlock failure is caused on purpose, like, seriously

2 times on novel trilogy (Henry and Charlotte)

And the cupcake haunted by Susie.

It would be very stupid for the death of game's William in the games be caused by a slip of water if every other continuity shows that it happened in purpose.

And dead by daylight states that *something* caused it to happen.

It being Andrew makes sense, and if he's TOYSNHK and Golden Freddy

No wonder that the 49/20 cutscene shows Golden Freddy convulsing like the fnaf 3 trailer.

If TOYSNHK is directly linked towards William, he's going to make him suffer that springlock failure back in Follow Me.

Other thing, the souls simply disappear on the minigame, like, they simply vanish.

Im pretty sure thats supposed to be about they going to heaven.

And if the 5th soul chasing William is Mangle, then this line creates another level of irony:

"He's here, and always watching, the one you should not have killed"

One sound that plays on the prompt, is the carroussel theme of fnaf 1.

The prompts is made to influence if the robots moves, and it features the carroussel sound of fnaf 1 mixed.

Molten Freddy reacts to that

Fredbear's didn’t exist on that point in Scott's original vision for the story, with that:

"The same stupid song for 20 years" line doesn't make sense to be a exagerration on 2014 pre FNAF 2, so its a timeline hint, with that, 20 years after what year?

Simple, the design of the robots are clearly inspired by Chuck E Cheese, so its 20 years after the original opening.

Scott must have searched when the first CEC location opened, aka, 1977.

10 years prior to the bite, and 20 year prior to the events of the game.

What about the payback? It matches no year, Scott just placed whatever number that he though without looking into specific minimal wages.

Since its $4 per hour, not $4,25

Scott only added on fnaf 2, because he watched Matpat's first fnaf video and thought that it was a good idea to match the minimal wage with real life

The 5th victim isn't a issue, just assume that Michael Brooks is canon and that he is Golden Freddy in the games (which, he's the only with personality and development so why not?)

"The name is on the Foxygrid" (theres no evidence of the name being there unlike CASSIDY on a book that focus on fnaf 4)

"Then who would be the 5th kid" (The only Golden Freddy character to be developed and that doesn't have headcanons or insane amount of speculation)

I wonder who he is

I been thinking lately but why on movie intro Susie isn't on the arcade playing Fruit Maze?

Not only that but fnaf 3 explicitly tells us:

"Under no circumstance should a customer ever, be taken into this room, and out of the main show area."

Since Follow me is supposed to mirror the MCI, then the MCI children back on 1985 were lured from the show area, aka, dinning area, into the safe room/party room

Thats why the movie would show Susie being lured from the dinning area, aka, show area.

What does this have to do with the theory? Fruit Maze woudn't be literal

Susie isn't playing a arcade game and then William appears

Its Susie haunting the arcade while showing what happened to her

This would be the same thing with the other salvages

Events of their past:

Susie/Fruit Maze > Molten Freddy

William/Midnight motorist > springtrap

Charlie/Lefty > security puppet

What about Baby/Elizabeth?

Scott already showed enough on Sister Location about Elizabeth's backstory.

Thats why there isn't a minigame about her on FFPS, since SL has already one

The only good evidence of Freddy's opening before the bite of 83 is the merch of Freddy's characters on fnaf 4 minigames.

But i feel like state theres a very easy explanation of those toys and masks around the time where Fredbear's was opened:

Those merchandise were made after the sucess of the TV show

The order of the characters that appears on the show matches the bite order of the bullies

Merch is made to capitalize off the sucess from TV shows ​

Freddy Fazbear's Pizza can still open after the closure of Fredbear's

Especially when the cartoon "Freddy and Friends" is a reboot from the 1983 cartoon after it was cancelled from the closure of Fredbear's Family Diner

FollowMePRE1 uses the posters to show that the sprites are accurate and that its the unwithereds

But, look at Chica's leg, full orange, withered chica doesn't have orange legs

Not only that, but she features 2 toes, a classic chica feature which doesn’t match withered chica.

So this is just classic chica with no bib, but what about the other posters?

This one seems tricky, until you remember that theres a easter egg on 3 showing springbonnie.

The main posters that we see in game are in universe recolors after the closure of Fredbear's Family Diner

Freddy would reuse Fredbear poster

Bonnie would reuse Springbonnie poster

(This is evidence for Fredbear and Springbonnie fnaf 1 recolor theory but thats a theory for another time)

Foxy doesn't have one for some reason, and the Chica one remained unfinished.

First off the unwithereds aren't on this for obvious reasons, "but its to cover up" then why did Fazbear Entertainment add them on fnaf 2 level and why add levels clearly referencing the missing children like pizza party and parts and service ones (example, the level where handunit states that a ACRID smell is coming out of classic Chica)

By whats inside Freddy we can assume that Gabriel wore a hat and this watch before his demise

Look at what the watch says:

*party time*, it points at 11:25 pm, fnaf 1 newspapers states that the MCI happened on "the late hours of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza operations"

The fnaf movie also shows the aftermath of the MCI at night on a news broadcast.

And that the children went missing on a birthday party (again, by movie teasers)

As we see on pizza party, the birthday boy was Gabriel

You're the band states that Gabriel (haunting Timmy) turns 8 years old by that point

Aka, he was 7 years old prior to his death, which we see a cake on pizza party with 7 candles.

People used the idea that its to recreate the bite but when you think it for 2 seconds it doesn't make sense.

Why didn't Jeremy try to remove his own frontal lobe then?

Its specifically the removal of his own face.

Then, the obvious bit arrived on my brain thinking about it.

"Remember Jeremy"

"Jeremy"

Help wanted 2 doubled down on that with the Bonnie mask with the achievement "remember Jeremy"

It is made to connect with Bonnie, but why?

I think that the anwser is simple, Glitchtrap recreated what Fazbear Entertainment did towards Bonnie on 1987 with Jeremy

Aka cutting his face off, and in one of parts and service minigames we can literally see how this process can happen with opening Bonnie's face

Glitchtrap would associate somebody named Jeremy towards the kid that haunted Bonnie on the 80s

Its almost like Glitchtrap is mimicking the past.....

More stuff:

Assuming that Gabriella is tape girl, Glitchtrap would see her as Gabriel, the soul who haunted Freddy

it would also be a reference to the debunked theory that the soul who haunts Freddy is a girl

Glitchtrap would then focus on her by her name, explaining why Pizza Party and the Freddy parts and service level on Help Wanted exists

Technically related to the last post, Collection 3 was a fanmade sequel to the infamous Collection 2 tape (that featured a real dead fox photo)

The video consisted of tapes around the times of fnaf 1, 2 and 4

Such as:

Polish drivers taking the toy animatronics into a scrapyard, which one of the drivers are killed by those robots, the models used as far i remember were the Help Wanted 1 models)

Some fnaf 1 tapes, but i don't remembers the contents

A tape about the bite of 83 outside Fredbear's estabilishment, i remember that i used a unwithered or withered version of Golden Freddy to represent Fredbear after the bite

And a scene showing springtrap on a fire background featuring William Afton photo on the background, the model used was Help Wanted 1 springtrap

The last section, and by partially lost on the title of this post, is about the fact that the audio of the ending of Collection 3 was reused on a popular FNaF vhs tape called "Henry Emily suicide"

https://youtu.be/78HcFhYQq_E?is=zxw7ompcpbFiskzJ

And im talking about the audio, the original footage contained scenes from Fazbear's Collection 1 and 2

I discovered Collection 3 in 2024 or 2023, when i looked towards the suicide tape comment section and i found a channel comment that stated that the audio from this was reused

So i checked the channel and then i discovered Collection 3

The problem is, now i can't find it, it was certainly posted first post February 2021, but outside of that we have the Henry Emily suicide tape and only that by far

Hope you can help the search or if you have the video found on your archives!

One thing but why under unwithereds and retrofit Foxy goes on a redesign and then they simply abandon him? Or simply never fixed him up?

He was never fixed or restored after 1987, the damage pattern on withered foxy matches classic foxy

Same lack of arm fur and same lack of legs fur

Now, the week before and fnaf 2:

"Uh, they thought the first one was too scary"-Ralph 1987

"But they were just so ugly, you know?-Ralph 1987

What does the week before state?

That classic foxy is:

Not for kids, which connects with the toys being kid friendly compared to the classics, and withereds

And that "he's quite scary"

Ralph on 1987 states that they redesigned foxy because he was 'too creepy" for kids

Its the same description

Withered Foxy was never repaired after 1987 in universe as stated by the week before

Not even redesigned

Remember those posters on east hall from fnaf 1? They contain the unwithereds

Ralph states about those posters:

The hallway is decorated with cheerful stars and a checkerboard stripe matching the floor tiles, but the dim light from the lone fixture overhead makes the fading decor seem almost sinister, especially the *vintage character posters for Chica, Freddy, and Bonnie.*

The last image is from a in universe game to tarnish the brand, forget about it

Lets state simple facts:

FNaF 4 was Scott last game, the Nightmares are called NIGHTMARES because the player is on a dream​

Nobody solved fnaf 4 because the plot was ass

Scott never planned fear gas experiments on 2015 and theres not even indication of that on fnaf world, a game that is "connected" to fnaf 4

A retcon is refered as something not planned or estabilished prior that recontextualizes a previous event

The retcon happened prior to FFPS and was applied pre FFPS

FNaF 4 original intention was not Dream theory but it wasn't "the bedroom from Michael’s nightmare is actually from a underground test facility" instead of:

"Its a random non literal house from the protagonist mind"

Before you state "only focus on TOYSNHK plot, meta elements doesn't matter" Jack-o Chica directly mentions the character so the meta elements are part of the plot, not only that but Nightmarionne is the face of the game and directly mentions why the player is here

Now, why is Help Wanted canon?

Scott wanted to make Help Wanted canon, but he also wanted to include "questionable canon" characters (refering obviously to the characters of halloween edition, which Nightmare BB was considered the only canon character by that point)

So his solution? Make that Help Wanted is a game in universe

Implying that the halloween characters are made by Fazbear Entertainment for the VR game

You might say, "well under GlitchAfton they took the characters from his mind after his circuit boards were scanned"

The problem is: Lefty, scraptrap, scrapbaby (The plushies doesn't count) and Molten Freddy doesn't appear in the game

And GlitchMIMIC is the most believed theory now so this argument is largely non believed

"TOYSNHK heard about them" how?

Assuming that stitchline isn't canon, what Fazbear Entertainment worker would talk about them or play the game close to Afton corpse?

Or if stitchline is canon, a worker on Hercules Hospital does the same thing that i talked?

Thats assuming alot to explain a big plot hole

And we need to take into account if UCN takes place from many years

The only evidence of that is the man in room 1280, but outside of that

It can take place from months or hours after FFPS

But, IF UCN isn't canon? And the best explanation for every character in the game, and TOYSNHK

Let me explain:

Scott stated back on 2016 that the custom night of SL isn't canon but the minigames and cutscene are

Could it work with UCN? Yes, and its pretty simple:

UCN was only made because the fandom wanted either a infinite tycon or a FFPS custom night

What would be the plot of infinite tycon? Certainly woudn't be canon

Same thing could apply to UCN

Which, why there are so many fnaf world connections?

OMC is back, easter eggs from previous characters such as bounce pot, the roster image matches the roster menu of fnaf world (which also features halloween characters)

Assuming that the game is a celebration of fnaf brand for the fans just like fnaf world, the game plot would be a art vent piece as well

Thats when the "plot" of UCN enters:

If William isn't the protagonist, who is it?

Simple, the creator of FNaF, Scott Cawthon

"I am remade, but not by you, by TOYSNHK"

remember the toy freddy post?

Well, its Scott suffering what we suffered back in the years

"This is a nightmare that you won't wake from"

Scott suffered nightmares from Bonnie and Circus Baby, this one he won't wake up from

Or, y'know, Mr Hippo dialogue that is clearly meta which breaks the fourth wall and doesn't make any sense on UCNcanon theories

"A story is just a story", under this theory

Scott placed this dialogue to state that this game isn't relevant to the story because he though that the fandom would take it seriously

Now, who would be TOYSNHK?

first, he wants to take vengeance towards its creator, he knows about PC video games with jumpscares and gamers in general

Its a child, most likely a boy

Under this theory, why doesn't TOYSNHK let Scott rest?

TOYSNHK is us, at least what Scott thinks of us after FNaF world

The fandom is mostly made of children, and the gender is ambigous, it can be anyone

Scott wanted FNaF to end multiple times, and ofc, FFPS

But possibly on his mind, we weren't satisfied, so Scott with pressure coudn't end or kill FNaF

So we bring Scott and FNaF back against his and Henry's will

"He tried to release you, he tried to release us, but im not gonna let that happen, i will hold you here, i will keep you here, no matter how many times, they burn us" (the many times being, ofc, Scott wanted fnaf to end multiple times but he coudn't)

"I was the first, i have seen everything"

On this theory, while Scott never stated, its possible that Chica was the first model that Scott made for the series

And if this game is so important then Scott would at least mention TOYSNHK on the games after UCN, right? (Wrong)

The last time that he mentioned the character was on the post about HW , aka posted on 2019.....

UCN being on the guide books isn't evidence that its canon, novel trilogy and into the pit (a game that people debate its canonicity) + other books are on the guide books

FNaF world isn't on the guide books because Scott is ashamed of it, UCN gets a pass cuz the community loved it

What about the man in room 1280?

A) People think that its not canon

B) its a coincidence and its not connected with UCN

C) Scott possibly liked fanon interpretation of UCN and made 2 (third book) stories about it, but unlikely UCN under this theory, its made to fit the games without the meta elements and makes TOYSNHK an actual character that isn't representing the fandom

"But SB and fnaf ar"

SB also has fanverse characters and book characters, not only that but say same lines in the games isn't evidence of canonicity:

AR features Funtime Freddy quoting count the ways, people don't believe that Frights is canon

Both movies references UCN lines:

"I always come back" (is spoken by William on the movie)

"I don't hate you, but you need to stay out of my way" (is spoken by Charlotte on the movie)

And Dead By Daylight quotes lines from novel trilogy together with games lines

"Don't move!" (Spoken by springtrap)

And, well, how does 2 springtraps exist at the same time together with William being the protagonist

Why would TOYSNHK remade William to kill William

"Fear of mirrors" doesn't count as evidence since the theory also explains this:

Phone Guy and Phone Dude are voiced by Scott

Since, why would TOYSNHK recreate phone guy?

He isn't William's creation and didn't affect TOYSNHK

Resume, Scott never awnsered TOYSNHK debate or ever talk about UCN in general cuz the game doesn't matter

"A story is just a story, if you read it too much you drive yourself crazy"

"but why would Scott make a vent game" he made FNaF World and Tales From the Pizzaplex "Monster"

The biggest examples of vent in FNaF media, the protagonist of UCN would ofc be, deskman

and as Baby on UCN states:

"i guess you forgot about me"

Most TOYSNHK theories is that this kid was killed on the 80s

How does he know about jumpscares on PC games?

Clearly toy freddy on this game is a joke of gamers

How does TOYSNHK know about those specific types, aka modern ones like Markiplier?

And don't even get started on this line:

"If i get jumpscared, YOU get jumpscared"

Been rethinking about UCN and alot of things are highly questionable on the idea of the game being a sequel to FFPS (halloween characters even though Scott made Help Wanted a in universe game to make the halloween characters to make sense and to help wanted be canon)

Scott one time, stated that he wanted the series to end on FNaF 4, then he changed his mind when he wanted to make SL, then he changed his mind again when he made the Custom Night update (aka, reviving springtrap)

Now, how would SL post fnaf 3 story work under SL last game?

Why would the story end on the son of springtrap get scooped and then Ennard is never seen again?

"Mike" (without the Custom Night) simply dies after getting scooped and then Ennard vanishes

Woudn't make more sense that the ending is the one that you save the souls and the killer is killed on the fire? Aka fnaf 3

Ofc, Scott was not satisfied on SL ending on nothing (aka "Mike" dies and Ennard goes on FNaF 3) so he made the custom night update as a teaser to FFPS