Uneven tire movements on X420

Have a X4 running at my mothers house and as I was home last weekend to pack it down for winter, I took a slo-mo recording to better document something I observed when setting it up earlier this year.

When running in automated mode (not using the mobile as a remote) the 4 electric motors do not spin evenly. In this video, you can see the front right wheel stop severel times and if you watch carefully at the read wheels you will see slight slipping as they may spin too fast.

You can actually hear this as knocking sounds as it drives.

The effect in areas with soft ground or steep slopes (it is climbing a slope of roughly 16 degrees here) is drastic. It slowly carves up the grass.

There are a few reports from others noticing the same and if you view the review at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msXwAwMlfq0 you can see great examples of the wheels "living in different worlds at times". For instance at 18:40 you can see the left front tire roll backwards while the left rear tire is spinning trying to get forwards.

If I control the mower using the mobile phone as remote control, this problem goes away or is at least dramatically reduced.

I have hill that the x420 drives straight up with just a tiny bit of slipping if I remote control it, but it simply cannot climb it if I map it and let it try to mow by itself. It just carves up the grass trying.

This nervous behaviour must also add a lot of strain on that rear axel pivot point that many has reported failing.

Segway should really look into this both to avoid damaging the grass but also to reduce the amount of rear axel failures.

u/MrZzzap — 8 days ago

Backup positioning solution

From the x4 4.3.0 release notes
Network RTK backup solution: If the Network RTK service becomes unstable, the mower automaticallly switches to a backup positioning solution, so it can continue mowing with minimal interruption.

There must be something like 10k YouTube mower reviewers.

Nobody trying to do a scientific test of this yet?

It is clearly the biggest thing in the 4.3.0 release if it works (not sure why it is only for NRTK though).

It may also explain why some people suddenly have mowers going places where no robot mower has even gone before.

Someone should take a 4.2.0 mower, put it to wifi only, see what happens when you cut wifi

Do the same again on 4.3.0

I would have, but the x4 I operate is in my mother’s place and that is 4 hours travel away, so it will not be me.

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u/MrZzzap — 2 months ago

X4 with slicks?

How do people avoid the X4 tires from filling up with dirt the moment they get into a bit rough terrain?

Notice that Worx actually have brush accessories to clean dirt out of their tires.

u/MrZzzap — 3 months ago

So much for fancy lidars and AI vision

Car was parked a bit into the lawn to make space for guest.

I had maybe thought the fancy AI stuff would make the H215 avoid getting stuck (and pretty well stuck) under the car

u/MrZzzap — 4 months ago

cliff protection

I realize that the H2 does not have this and have seen it wander straight over the edge a few times unless there is a pretty good margin to the edge. (fortunately my "cliffs" are not so tall, so nothing broken)

Does the X4 do any better in this area?

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u/MrZzzap — 4 months ago