r/SegwayNavimow

108e discharges by itself while connected to station since recent update

Mowed 3 days ago, charged to 100%, now it's down to 97. This only happens since the last updates.

Looks like the trickle charging is no longer active. Power saver is enabled but the function is supposed to affect only the light. And I've had this enabled for months.

I can manually move the mower out and push it back into the bay, it'll recharge, but this is kind of inconvenient.

Any ideas?

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u/ReddusMaximus — 4 hours ago

Rockneo Q105 - Won't drive through narrow passage between zones

Has anyone experienced this with the Rockneo Q105?

I've split my lawn into a front yard and a backyard (charging station is in the backyard). The two areas are connected by a passage that's about 1 meter wide.

During mapping, I manually drove the mower through the passage without any issues, so the map looks correct. But when it starts mowing automatically, it approaches the passage, turns around, and then says the mowing task is complete without ever entering the other zone.

The same thing happens in another narrow passage elsewhere in the garden.

Is there a setting I'm missing, or is there a minimum passage width required for the mower to navigate between zones?

Any advice would be appreciated!

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u/Lunde_Deluxe — 13 hours ago
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Segway Navimow Terranox - 1 week in

I wanted to post my positive and negative points having lived with the 3 acre version for a week now and used it intensively. I hope these comments are useful to potential purchasers and users. I’m happy to answer further questions - fire away.

My summary is that this device is awesome and I would not hesitate to recommend it to anyone with a large area of grass to look after. Yes, there is a long list of feedback but take this as enthusiastic input about this product to improve it still further. 

For clarity: I’ve not even bothered to set up the local antenna. NRTK seems to be working fine.

Positives:

  • It was a breeze to set up and get operational
  • The app is excellent for a new user
  • Mapping is dead easy
  • The cut is excellent
  • The batteries are user-replaceable - fantastic!!
  • The slope performance is nothing less than amazing. I will try to post some footage. We have slopes that are at least 40 degrees and it was a little hesitant at first, thinking they might be obstacles. Now it has ‘learned’ the slopes the performance is nothing less than spectacular

Feedback, gaps and thoughts:

  • Movement of the steering axles sounds wrong. I know how that sounds but it is disconcerting. It doesn’t sound ‘solid’ or reliable, it sounds plasticky and about to break.
  • It has a blindspot for low walls with jutting out coping stones on top. I have 2 parallel scratches in my nice orange livery because it incorrectly assumed that the wall position was the same from bottom to top - not good!
  • I don’t like subscription models and this was one reason I almost didn’t purchase it. I appreciate that in the grand scheme of things, £40GBP / year is not a large sum compared to the initial investment but I like the way that Kress builds it into the purchase price. I would have purchased Kress but the model I wanted was not available.
  • I can’t find any regular care or maintenance that I should be doing to the device. 
  • In the app it’s difficult to see when an object is selected (generally the mapping is more problematic). I am constantly seeing ‘Please select an element to edit’.
  • Getting rid of error messages is not possible with a tap - they have to time out to disappear
  • Edge mowing seems to turn itself off. I had to post about this. Subsequently I have created a new zone and just checked. Mow along boundary is switched off after the mower has completed an initial cut (and has most definitely cut around the boundary).
  • It doesn’t seem possible to add a second base station to an installation. This would be really useful in my situation where there is a road bisecting our land. It has taken 4 charges to complete a first cut of the land across the road and escorting it across and back is tedious.
  • Battery performance is disappointing (and presumably will only degrade from here). You won’t notice it if your mower can just go and get itself some more juice but in my position, 2-3 hours of work before a charge (and an escort from me) is needed is a pain
  • Why on earth can you not remote control the device with <20% power left? See my other post about the problems this caused
  • It would be really useful to see the position of the device when you are editing the map (to help position edges etc)
  • I would like to be able to install the app on a laptop to help with drawing accurate lines on the map boundaries

My assumption (given the money this device is) is that it will be hard-working and hard-wearing and should last a long time. I will see if I feel this positive about the device in 6 months, 1 year, 2 year etc...

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u/Ipernicus — 21 hours ago

X430 creaking noise on front wheels

I hear a mechanical/plasticky creaking/popping noise on my front wheels when they are turning. Is this normal?

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u/turnerm05 — 23 hours ago

100% even though it didn't cut anything?

Just got an x430 and I'm having an no issue with this section. It just enters and then immediately exits marking it 100% complete. I even tried making it larger but it still does this. What do you guys think is going on here?

u/Matrixfx187 — 1 day ago

My robot is missing out a lot of spots

Hi everyone,
We recently bought our first Navimow i105E, and so far we’re really happy with it. However, we’ve noticed that it’s leaving quite a few patches of grass uncut in the middle of our front lawn.
The odd part is that the app shows these areas as already mowed, even though they’re clearly not (see the photos).
Our total mowing area is around 345 m². We don’t have this issue in the back garden, or at least not nearly as much. It seems to be happening only in the front garden.
Has anyone else run into this? Could it be a mapping or RTK/GPS issue, or is there a setting we should check?
Any advice or suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Turn off that annoying reversing sound?

Hi folks, I'm wondering is there a way to turn off that annoying beeping sound the Navimow makes when it's reversing? Or is it just when reversing. It seems to do it almost at random sometimes. I would like it to do nighttime cutting but the noise is very loud and carries in my large back garden.

The i220 is a good robot but it does get stuff stuck under the cutting disc a lot. I try and keep my garden clear of twigs but it's difficult. Apart from that I'm happy enough and starting to see an slow improvement in the quality of the lawn

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u/JinIreland — 1 day ago

X430 First Impressions

Got my X430 setup this morning and put it through it's paces. This is being used on a well manicured St Augustine lawn in Texas. I'm cutting at 3.75" (tried 4" but it just mostly pushed the grass over... may need to go lower). I've also got a Lymow One still in rotation while I see if the X430 is right for my yard.

I'm running on nRTK for now, but may switch to RTK if needed. So far, it doesn't appear to be necessary, although finding a suitable docking location was more difficult than anticipated. Compromises were made BUT... I really do love the concept of the more streamlined setup and the ability to drive around to find good signal is very much appreciated and it shows the maturity of the company and the solutions they deliver. Well done!

I'm going to give the X430 the benefit of the doubt for it's first cut and judge final cut quality after it's maintained the yard for a week. Given the power and the actual steel blades of the Lymow, I usually just run it once or twice a week on command versus setting it on a schedule as it will cut through just about anything and doesn't care about longer grass... at all. Since the X430 is intended to be used differently (maintaining vs cutting) I want to see how it does this week now that I've got the yard very well-manicured. I'll run it on Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday.

I've got Edge Sense and Traction Control enabled. I'm not overly impressed with the Edge Sense. It's not awful but it's not great either. It seems to zig zag quite a bit while trying to find the edge. I think a better solution here is what Lymow has chosen to do and that's to follow the EXACT path taken while mapping. This allows you to overlap the edges where it makes sense which cuts down on follow-up trimming. It does a reasonable job as-is but I'd love to see an option to follow the mapped path (even if it requires the use of RTK).

The battery is a beast! I could've gone with one of the smaller Navimow options to be honest. I've only got around 5,500 square feet of lawn to mow and I suspect this thing isn't going to get much below 50% while covering my entire yard! That's a great improvement coming from Lymow.

The cutting paths are... odd... but seem effective. It seems to leave some spots uncut which is odd since they are shown as uncut on the map (seems like it would go back and get those areas). I think this is likely due to areas that it thinks have obstacles. Hopefully letting it run through a full weekly cycle with changing mow directions will fully solve that. Not passing too much judgement here yet.

I DO wish they'd allow us to set blade/disc RPM and mower speed separately. Given my lawn... I'd keep the RPMs on max and slow the mower down a bit to get the best possible cut quality. I also feel like the mower can't truly cut at 4" height (at least on St Augustine) because the disk and the mower body seem to lay the grass down too much at higher cut heights to be truly effective. As mentioned, I'm current mowing at 3.75" but may need to drop down lower but I want to see how it does for a full week before playing with the settings too much.

For a mower that advertises cutting at 4", the back of the mower sure drags the grass pretty hard at those heights! I've seen it bog down a few times but it always got itself loose.

The app itself is best in breed (and I've tried a LOT of mowers/apps). Well done here.

I personally feel like the future of these mowers (for my situation at least) is actual mower blades like the Lymow uses and the upcoming Terramow will use. But I'll see if the X430 can do well enough on a regular schedule.

I DO feel like this will be a mower that I can trust to be fully autonomous. If so, and IF it does well on it's schedule this week then we may have a winner. I suspect that I'll keep the Lymow in rotation most for edge mowing and clean-up when necessary.

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u/turnerm05 — 2 days ago

Considering cutting my Mammotion losses.

I’m on my second summer with a Luba Mini for my front yard. When this thing works it’s not bad, but does damage the lawn. The problem is it can’t be trusted. A couple times now it’s decided to somehow lower the deck to below the normal minimum and absolutely scalp my yard. There are a litany of other issues that I’ve manage to work around.

At this point I’m ready to cut my losses and was looking at the Navimow x4. My front yard is pretty small (cul de sac) but has a ditch so 4wd is necessary. My lawn is Bermuda cut at 0.8”.

What I’m looking for is something I can leave for a week and trust it should just work. Obviously it might take a couple weeks to tweak everything. Ive got an old school Husqvarna in my 2/3 acre backyard that is a beast, 5th season with minimal issues.

What’s everyone’s experience with reliability and second how’s parts availability?

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u/nuclearsquirrel2 — 2 days ago

Considering X430. Tall Fescue Cutting height is stopping me

Hi all. First post here. I have been looking at robot mowers and the X430 far and away looks like the best out there. With current sale thinking about it seriously. The one thing that is stopping me is the no lift razor blade cutting. I have Tall Fescue which in cooler months i cut at 3” and in heat of Summer like now 3.5”. The lawn is in good shape. I’d call it fairly dense nice grass for most part. I have serious doubts about no lift razor blade mowers ability to do a decent cut vs just pushing it over. I’ve read what i could on this and see conflicting information but see plenty that confirms my concerns. The lawn is not big. Typical suburban 1/4 acre lot. Yes I know the 430 is big for that size but im ok with that. I like the features the build of it cut width and actual steering. My guess is it would do it in maybe 5-6hr. Athough I know it could I just can’t see cutting every day. I’d be ok with every other day. Even now with rotary mower 3” looks nice and 3.5” a bit “shaggy“ in comparison but good. I wouldn’t expect perfection but it has to do a decent job at 3.5”. Can it? Actual experience with TTF and 3.5” would be helpful

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u/Professional_Boat283 — 2 days ago
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Loud noise from X430 when cutting

We have a Navimow X430 that we purchased from a local dealer in Norway in April, and it has recently started making a really loud and unpleasant noise while mowing.

I’ve cleaned the underside thoroughly and can’t see any obvious issues with either of the cutting discs or the blades. There are also no signs of anything being stuck underneath. The mower appears to be cutting the grass as it should.

I was thinking about removing the cutting discs to inspect them more closely, but I’m wondering if it would be better to send the mower in for service instead. Has anyone else experienced the same problem?

u/andreb81 — 2 days ago

Honeymoon over on x4

226 hours on the x450 and 24.6 hours on the x430. When they work, it’s great. But today both of them went off cliffs within a couple hours of each other. Using NRTK with good 4g coverage here in the US. I was seeing positioning errors earlier in the app but their lights turned blue and I sent them out.

Neither were damaged other than scratches. The one tipped over on its way down, and the alarm went off, which isn’t loud enough for anyone to hear. The other rolled (upright) down about a 3 foot in embankment and got stuck and I had to pull it back out using the winch on my UTV and it ended up upside down when I pulled on it. I can’t lift 67 pounds up a 3’ drop off on a loose embankment myself.

Convince me there isn’t something terribly wrong with NRTK. I don’t use RTK because I have some spots that are further than 600’ from the house (supposed to be max distance from what others have said) but mainly because I don’t want to setup the antennas because I may need another behind the house for the coverage in the back.

I think either the GPS or NRTK data is not getting to the mower or it is getting bad data. How is it possible to have 2 mowers do this? They were over 10 feet away from the boundary when found. I am considering trying RTK at this point but afraid of messing up my maps, even though they say it can be done without impacting them.

Idk, I’m very frustrated. My H3000 in the back fenced area, which has to use RTK, is totally fine, but it’s in a fence. I’m not sure how much I would trust these mowers around ponds, roads, or drop offs at this point.

u/SickemChicken — 3 days ago

Segway X330 stuck in boot loop

Hello, i have had my X3 for a year now, but all of a sudden it is now stuck in a loop when booting.

It ask me to hold the ok button for 10sec to restart the device. And then after 3 minutes with the logo on the screen and a pulsating yellow light, it just return to “press ok button for 10sec” screen and stays there.

(I have tried both on and off the dock)

It does not connect to either wifi or bluetooth in the process.

Have anyone had something similar?

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u/Friispy — 2 days ago

Terranox

I initially had my heart set on the X390e however due to a mix up with the order and the shop having none available, they offered us a Terranox 3 acre model at a good price.

I have to say that the out of the box performance of this machine is incredible. We have just over 2 acres of maintained lawns over 3 zones, with around 80 trees in total, slopes, edges, fences and kerbs. This would take me around 3 hours on the zero turn, and it needs cut about once a week at this time of the year.

Unboxed it, set up the home base, manually mapped the boundaries of the 3 zones and let it do its thing.

It has been absolutely flawless so far using NRTK. I haven’t even unpacked the RTK antenna.

Highly recommend this mower based on my experience so far!

u/Own-House5505 — 3 days ago

Location of base charging station debate with my elderly father who wants to set it up in the garage.

Context, My father (m84) and I (m62) bought a house together on a half acre of land. I just purchased the X430 and had intended for the base station to go outside, slightly away from the house, in a large bordered bed.

He insists we do not need an electrician to install an outdoor outlet, he plans to manually mow 3-4 times a week while keeping the base station in our two car garage. This goes against every YouTube video and guide I have watched before deciding to make the purchase.

I was going to do the setup, mapping, and scheduling. I even had appointments for estimates for an outlet (he sent them away). Like everything else I plan, he has taken over and insists he'll do a better job (retired naval officer). I no longer argue with him because he gets very heated and red in the face. I have tossed up my hands and told him to enjoy my purchase and do whatever he wished.

Has anyone else attempted this kind of setup? Results?

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u/SadLeek9950 — 3 days ago

New bug

I have a X430 that has been great. After the recent firmware update, this is consistently happening:

  1. Set a mowing schedule for a specific zone
  2. Mower starts as scheduled.
  3. It goes back to the charging station because the zone is too big to be mowed in one charge.
  4. It never leaves the charging station, even if there is still time remaining in the mowing schedule.

I have to manually tell it to finish mowing that zone.

Anyone else seeing this?

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u/AdNatural3584 — 3 days ago

Increase Reverse from Home Distance?

I swear I’ve dug through every menu and can’t find a setting to make this guy back up further before turning. I built a garage for it, and it eventually makes it out buy it tries to turn as soon as the side cameras clear the garage, but then the bumped gets stuck. My only other idea was adding something on the side to stick out and block the cameras a bit longer.

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u/claytonrex — 3 days ago
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Driving around, wasting battery

So I've noticed that mowing around no-go zones is highly unoptimized. For example, today the mower decided to mow around a no-go zone on the complete opposite side of the zone from the one it completed.

And it does that basically every time. Instead of mowing around the no-go zone right next to the previous one, it decides to go to ones further away and continue there.

I get that it is a robot, and I shouldn't worry about it as long as everything is mowed (which it is), but that is just wasting battery and lowering the efficiency of the mower.

P.S. My yard is hell for these robots with all the no-go zones, so in general, I am very happy with how it deals with them. Some are so close the mower barely fits, but it still manages that. (i210 lidar pro)

u/PineappleResident254 — 3 days ago

Channel not allowed?

Is there a way to create a channel going across my driveway so the X450 doesn’t have to drive all the way around the house to get back to the charger? The app isn’t letting me do it.

u/FuckinHighGuy — 3 days ago

Isolated Zone beginner's comedy...

I have a field across the road from me that I am turning into a camping area. The grass is at the point where I thought I try to cut it with the navimow rather than the tractor.

I navigated the mower down to the field and manually mapped an isolated zone, thinking that it was the best way to avoid the mower ever trying to cross the road unattended. I then left it to do some mowing. When I got back I tried to get it to return home. This failed because the zone is isolated and the mower has no way home. I tried to manually control it home but discovered that under 20% battery, you are not able to put the mower into manual control mode. I then discovered that it was basically impossible to get the mower to move back home! I ended up having to go and get the car and put it in the boot (setting its alarm off as I did!!) Hilarious!

My questions are:

  1. Is it possible to put the mower into manual move mode under 20% power remaining? I could not find a setting to change this anywhere.

  2. Is it possible to change an isolated zone into a connected one. Perhaps by just drawing a channel from an existing zone or the charge station? This is what I'm going to try next.

Failing that, I guess I have to delete the isolated zone and then re-create it!

Have to say though....I've been super impressed with this device!

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u/Ipernicus — 3 days ago