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Pj takes
direct- Via hypnosis
emotional>= - His manip of lorelei >Red john's manip of lorelei
Mass- Manipulating the entire research facility into believing that they will die
Indirect- Panzer murder/6 month isolation

Rj takes
Logical- via bertram framing

Imo Takuya mid(+) diffs

I frankly dont see any of the being able to clear the bog PJ is maybe but the rest of the lose

Naturally There are the subcats(Inductive , Deductive and Abductive)

but on what basis can Feat X be quantified as better than Feat Y in any of said subcats?

Part 1 Jake alone

Part 2 The whole squad

I have yotsuba broadcast slightly higher than Timothy carter altho it is a toss up
I have L taking mainly cuz his strategy had better Adaptability,Orchestration,Logistics and Complexity
Altho RJs strategy has better alignment ,efficiency and Shielding Both are high tier strategies imo

Mine is Violets I am Leaning towards Violets cuz of its Orchestration, It having more layers and just the sheer detail in the entire plan

Recently I have been seeing a lot of RJ vs PJ and Akiyama vs Yokoya online altho in both Intelectual rivalries there is often a comon consensus that one character is reasonably above the other. Light vs L is often debated and seen as somewhat contentious when I actually feel like it shudnt be L(canon) at least in my opinion is marginally better than light at outsmarting and only lost due to Light's advantages.
I might even say that the gap between Light and L is around as much as the other 2.

my cat distribution is

Intel L
L(NCPS,VSI,VCI,CPI)
Light(Crystalized intel,LTM)

EI L
L(EU,EM,EP,EE=)
Light(EF,EE=)

SI Light(all cats other than influence building and networking)

AC L
L(Mental fortitude,Resistences,Stress tolerance=)
Light(Stress Tolerance=,Impulse Control)

Manipulation Light(close)
L(Indirect,Logical=(Higuchi manip),Psychological(4 notes trap)
Light(Direct,Logical(Naomi)=,Emotional(Rem),mass(Crime reduction ig),Individual)

Deception L(close)
Light(Acting,misdirection,Sophistory
L(Fabrication(Matsuda fake death),Info control(Yotsuba brodcast,4 notes),Bluffing(Group of investigators),Disguise)

Strategy L(Yotsuba apprehension,Self rev>L isolation)

Planning Light(Fake note and Memory Loss)

Reasoning L(all cats)

Foresight Light(nears plan)

Tactical prowess L
L(Tactics(4 ntes),countering(L countering L isolation with self rev),Trap setting(Yotsuba)
Light(Trap evasion)

Adaptability CGEW
L(Environmental=,Situational=,LA)
Light(Environmental=,Situational=,Creativity)

Detective ability L(Inference,Pattern recognition,Cold reading,Psychoanlysis,metacognition,Info gathering and Intuition)

L mid/high diffs imo

Feel free to share your takes

My top 10 are

10)Minority rule strategy (Akiyama)

9)Contraband strategy (Akiyama)

8. Musical chairs strategy-both days(Yokoya)

7)Bid Poker strategy (Akiyama)

6)Black market plan (yokoya)

5)Authentic smuggling counter- contraband (Yokoya)

4)NPL plan (Akiyama)

Honarable mentions:
Downsizing game strategy(akiyama and yokoya),
Bid poker strategy(Kimura), Minority rule strategy(Fukunaga), roulette strategy(Nao)
PANDEMIC games strategy(Akiyama and yokoya)

3. Stalemate plan/strategy-R04K(Akiyama)

4. Forced rotation strategy-contraband (Yokoya) Interchangeabe with no 3

1)Trash medal strategy- Musical chairs (Akiyama)