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Hi, I asked about enneagram fears earlier and got some good responses so thank you. I'm including a bit more information about it incase it shows anything else enneagram related. Thanks!

My core motivation in life is to be a person of strong noble character and to inspire goodness through principles and kindness.I hope to create a better world or at-least make progress towards it.I want to live up to my "ideal self" and who I imagine I want to be like which is someone of high moral standards and the right way to be.I want to do what is right and beneficial for myself and others. I want to leave a legacy and significant impact for good or do something or be someone that truly matters like creating a better world for everybody or be important for the good.My goal overall is to live with integrity and make the world better than it was the day before and I feel most satisfied when I feel I can finally feel I did what was right or met my standards.

My main fear is the belief that I may be, or become, fundamentally "bad"—meaning evil,immoral,incompetent,lacking,corrupt,defective or someone who is overall villainous and wrong.Growing up, I strived to be as virtuous as possible and be the hero, wanting to improve myself and the world. I believed I couldn't afford to make mistakes and that it was unacceptable to do so—especially moral ones. This created a deep need for a sense of control and a desire to avoid being judged as flawed. I realized since I was young I desire to be perfect especially morally and this pressure leads to relentless self-criticism, anger, guilt, and shame which I'm working on.

Also I have a deep fear that I'm secretly bad or that I'm a fraud who's way worse than I appear or that I will be exposed and criticized as evil for past mistakes or not my ideal so I often always make sure even my intentions are pure and good. My fears mainly are influenced from my OCD but these are the main ones I could figure out

Coping mechanisms:
Most my coping mechanisms revolve around me trying to keep my "ideal" self image or ensure I'm right and stay in control mainly internally. I've been a maladaptive daydreamer and very imaginative since young. I often do this to gain a sense admiration or control. Imaging me accomplishing my goals,getting famous and getting recognized for something great .I mainly do this because It's a place that can feel more perfect,where I finally am my ideal or receive the recognition I want. I definitely always check to make sure I am who I want to be in that I mean I'm meeting my ideal or being a role model which is someone of strong moral character and competence .I often get annoyed when I do something that contradicts my self image or when someone accuses me of something that contradicts it which I find "bad" and not good.I often do feel very guilty when I dream of getting recognition because that's very arrogant and prideful. I really value being humble so I push that to the side and while recognition is nice I know that it's not what's most important.

My core motivation in life is to be a person of strong noble character and to inspire goodness through principles and kindness.I hope to create a better world or at-least make progress towards it.I want to live up to my "ideal self" and who I imagine I want to be like which is someone of high moral standards and the right way to be.I want to do what is right and beneficial for myself and others. I want to leave a legacy and significant impact for good or do something or be someone that truly matters like creating a better world for everybody or be important for the good.My goal overall is to live with integrity and make the world better than it was the day before and I feel most satisfied when I feel I can finally feel I did what was right or met my standards.

My main fear is the belief that I may be, or become, fundamentally "bad"—meaning evil,immoral,incompetent,lacking,corrupt,defective or someone who is overall villainous and wrong.Growing up, I strived to be as virtuous as possible and be the hero, wanting to improve myself and the world. I believed I couldn't afford to make mistakes and that it was unacceptable to do so—especially moral ones. This created a deep need for a sense of control and a desire to avoid being judged as flawed. I realized since I was young I desire to be perfect especially morally and this pressure leads to relentless self-criticism, anger, guilt, and shame which I'm working on.

Also I have a deep fear that I'm secretly bad or that I'm a fraud who's way worse than I appear or that I will be exposed and criticized as evil or not my ideal so I often always make sure even my intentions are pure and good. My fears mainly are influenced from my OCD but these are the main ones I could figure out

Coping mechanisms:
Most my coping mechanisms revolve around me trying to keep my "ideal" self image or ensure I'm right and stay in control mainly internally. I've been a maladaptive daydreamer and very imaginative since young. I often do this to gain a sense admiration or control. Imaging me accomplishing my goals,getting famous and getting recognized for something great .I mainly do this because It's a place that can feel more perfect,where I finally am my ideal or receive the recognition I want. I definitely always check to make sure I am who I want to be in that I mean I'm meeting my ideal or being a role model which is someone of strong moral character and competence .I often get annoyed when I do something that contradicts my self image or when someone accuses me of something that contradicts it which I find "bad" and not good.I often do feel very guilty when I dream of getting recognition because that's very arrogant and prideful. I really value being humble so I push that to the side and while recognition is nice I know that it's not what's most important.

The fear is the belief that I may be, or become, fundamentally "bad"—meaning evil,immoral,incompetent,lacking,corrupt,defective or someone who is overall villainous and wrong.Growing up, I strived to be as virtuous as possible and be the hero, wanting to improve myself and the world. I believed I couldn't afford to make mistakes and that it was unacceptable to do so—especially moral ones. This created a deep need for a sense of control and a desire to avoid being judged as flawed. I realized since I was young I desire to be perfect especially morally and this pressure leads to relentless self-criticism, anger, guilt, and shame which I'm working on.

Also I have a deep fear that I'm secretly bad or that I'm a fraud who's way worse than I appear or that I will be exposed and criticized as evil or not my ideal so I often always make sure even my intentions are pure and good. My fears mainly are influenced from my OCD but these are the main ones I could figure out.

This is a repost because I did add some info and I have a question of if certain variants or subtypes will influence things like anger,fear and shame cause of what I read on Naranjo it's seems linked but I'm just trying to clear some things up so I don't mean to be annoying about reposting just trying to get more input.

I've been trying to figure out my heart type and gut type for a bit and looking for some sources of what I know is your heart type is how you handle shame,identity and image and your gut type is how you handle autonomy,anger and control but I'm trying to find the differences between a 2 fix,3 fix, 4 fix. I'm pretty confident Im a 2 or 4 fix so I did list some info if anyone wanted to give an input or a recommendation.Regarding Gut types I know I have a 1 fix but I can't tell if it's core or secondary.I'm posting this here again cause I would like to hear from other 1s,2s or 4s to see what y'all think.

How I want to be perceived: I hope I can be perceived as someone who is overall an upright and moral person. I want to be recognized for my strong principles and my desire to be selfless and make an impact.I do want to spread a sense of wisdom and change people outlooks for better.

Interests: I'm interested in politics,law and topics revolving around morality and justice.I'm very into movies and creative works. I like to write stories and have dreamed of being a director or actor and reflecting stories with deep meanings and reflections of society.

Shame/Guilt: My relationship with shame and guilt in primarily tied to failing my standards or past mistakes. I often can feel guilt and feel I'm never good enough. It's mainly tied to my character more than competence in ways that I would be more ashamed of a moral failing than anything else but do get annoyed easily when I mess up or am perceived as incompetent which often makes me want to prove others wrong or my worth.

Anger: My relationship with anger is more in a sense of frustration.I get very irritated when I can't have all the right answers to not everything is perfect especially myself. I do often hold back my judgements or anger because I try my best to be accepting and not rude but I will say something if I feel very obligated to.I can be resentful of those I perceive as immoral or who have done me wrong but I try to move past that and be forgiving.

Social Interaction: I'm often perceived as very quiet and calm. I've been told I can come across serious or overly polite throughout my life. Those close to me know that I hold strong principles and I have a deep desire to do good. I show this through being very caring and often find myself in the role of a therapist for others. I've also been told I'm very "head in clouds" or come across that way and that I'm very introspective.

Fits 2/4: What I relate to on both types is how I cultivate a "Ideal self" or a correct kind of identity and constantly remind myself that's how I should be.This Ideal I strive to be is mainly linked to being good and being of honorable character and I can relate to thinking this is how I will show my worth and receive love.I do value emotions and always try to have empathy as-well. I can feel both superior and inferior at times or that i'm not good enough.

Contradicts 2: I'm not a very socially outgoing person while I am always attuned to others emotions and people oriented, I often will sit back and observe. I do try my best to focus on the positive but can often see negative sides or flaws very easily but I never want to project negativity unless I'm doing something for the better.I can be prideful about somethings mainly believing that I can be more virtuous but I know this is self righteous so I try to fix that and keep myself humble.I'm not "performative" but I can try to get attention or impress though I rarely act on it.I don't primarily relate to many of the subtype maybe only SP2 or SO2 but not extremely.

Contradicts 4: I can dwell or be self indulgent at times but this often makes me feel guilty and while I think emotions are good and can bring growth I try my best to not focus on the negative because I don't believe that is overall a good mindset. I can get very annoyed when I can't get out my unhealthy loops and don't want to bathe in my emotions.I often try to fit in even though it can be hard especially if others around me are doing what I perceive as wrong.I can experience envy but I would never let in impact my decisions and it's mainly about when others are perceived as morally superior to me.I only relate mainly to the SP4 subtype and a little to SO4.

Fits 1:Overall my main fears like being fundamentally flawed or immoral,desires and most structures fit very well. I'm very overall critical,I often criticize myself in my head or get annoyed with myself on how I feel I can never do anything right.I do express my judgements if I think it's best and if something violates a moral standard but I've worked on being more easygoing and open minded.

Contradicts 1: For 1, I do have OCD which can mimic and influence 1-like behaviors. I don't fit many of the super productive/organized or cold stereotype,I am rigid surrounding morality,ideals and what I deem right but I'm overall a pretty chill person and like to joke around.I relate to SP1 and SO1 not SX1.I'm a INFJ and heard it can contradict 1.

Coping Mechanism: I've been a maladaptive daydreamer and very imaginative since young. I often do this to gain a sense admiration or control. Imaging me accomplishing my goals,getting famous and getting recognized for something great to significant.I mainly do this because It's a place that can feel more perfect,where I finally am my ideal or receive the recognition I want. I definitely always check to make sure I am who I want to be in that I mean I'm meeting my ideal or being a role model.I often get annoyed when I do something that contradicts my self image or when someone accuses me of something that contradicts it.

This is the main things I could think for the differences. I did look into the triads or structures and can relate to parts of both types. Overall if anything stands out on which fix it points towards or you have some insight that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

I've been trying to figure out my heart type and gut type for a bit and looking for some sources of what I know is your heart type is how you handle shame,identity and image and your gut type is how you handle autonomy,anger and control but I'm trying to find the differences between a 2 fix,3 fix, 4 fix. I'm pretty confident Im a 2 or 4 fix so I did list some info if anyone wanted to give an input or a recommendation.Regarding Gut types I know I have a 1 fix but I can't tell if it's core or secondary.(I'm reposting this from earlier because I added some things)

How I want to be perceived: I hope I can be perceived as someone who is overall an upright and moral person. I want to be recognized for my strong principles and my desire to be selfless and make an impact.I do want to spread a sense of wisdom and change people outlooks for better.

Interests: I'm interested in politics,law and topics revolving around morality and justice.I'm very into movies and creative works. I like to write stories and have dreamed of being a director or actor and reflecting stories with deep meanings and reflections of society.

Shame/Guilt: My relationship with shame and guilt in primarily tied to failing my standards or past mistakes. I often can feel guilt and feel I'm never good enough. It's mainly tied to my character more than competence in ways that I would be more ashamed of a moral failing than anything else but do get annoyed easily when I mess up or am perceived as incompetent which often makes me want to prove others wrong or my worth.

Anger: My relationship with anger is more in a sense of frustration.I get very irritated when I can't have all the right answers to not everything is perfect especially myself. I do often hold back my judgements or anger because I try my best to be accepting and not rude but I will say something if I feel very obligated to.I can be resentful of those I perceive as immoral or who have done me wrong but I try to move past that and be forgiving.

Social Interaction: I'm often perceived as very quiet and calm. I've been told I can come across serious or overly polite throughout my life. Those close to me know that I hold strong principles and I have a deep desire to do good. I show this through being very caring and often find myself in the role of a therapist for others. I've also been told I'm very "head in clouds" or come across that way and that I'm very introspective.

Fits 2/4: What I relate to on both types is how I cultivate a "Ideal self" or a correct kind of identity and constantly remind myself that's how I should be.This Ideal I strive to be is mainly linked to being good and being of honorable character and I can relate to thinking this is how I will show my worth and receive love.I do value emotions and always try to have empathy as-well. I can feel both superior and inferior at times or that i'm not good enough.

Contradicts 2: I'm not a very socially outgoing person while I am always attuned to others emotions and people oriented, I often will sit back and observe. I do try my best to focus on the positive but can often see negative sides or flaws very easily but I never want to project negativity unless I'm doing something for the better.I can be prideful about somethings mainly believing that I can be more virtuous but I know this is self righteous so I try to fix that and keep myself humble.I'm not "performative" but I can try to get attention or impress though I rarely act on it.I don't primarily relate to many of the subtype maybe only SP2 or SO2 but not extremely.

Contradicts 4: I can dwell or be self indulgent at times but this often makes me feel guilty and while I think emotions are good and can bring growth I try my best to not focus on the negative because I don't believe that is overall a good mindset. I can get very annoyed when I can't get out my unhealthy loops and don't want to bathe in my emotions.I often try to fit in even though it can be hard especially if others around me are doing what I perceive as wrong.I can experience envy but I would never let in impact my decisions and it's mainly about when others are perceived as morally superior to me.I only relate mainly to the SP4 subtype and a little to SO4.

Fits 1:Overall my main fears like being fundamentally flawed or immoral,desires and most structures fit very well. I'm very overall critical,I often criticize myself in my head or get annoyed with myself on how I feel I can never do anything right.I do express my judgements if I think it's best and if something violates a moral standard but I've worked on being more easygoing and open minded.

Contradicts 1: For 1, I do have OCD which can mimic and influence 1-like behaviors. I don't fit many of the super productive/organized or cold stereotype,I am rigid surrounding morality,ideals and what I deem right but I'm overall a pretty chill person and like to joke around.I relate to SP1 and SO1 not SX1.I'm a INFJ and heard it can contradict 1.

Coping Mechanism: I've been a maladaptive daydreamer and very imaginative since young. I often do this to gain a sense admiration or control. Imaging me accomplishing my goals,getting famous and getting recognized for something great to significant.I mainly do this because It's a place that can feel more perfect,where I finally am my ideal or receive the recognition I want. I definitely always check to make sure I am who I want to be in that I mean I'm meeting my ideal or being a role model.I often get annoyed when I do something that contradicts my self image or when someone accuses me of something that contradicts it.

This is the main things I could think for the differences. I did look into the triads or structures and can relate to parts of both types. Overall if anything stands out on which fix it points towards or you have some insight that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

I've been trying to figure out my heart type and gut type for a bit and looking for some sources of what I know is your heart type is how you handle shame,identity and image and your gut type is how you handle autonomy,anger and control but I'm trying to find the differences between a 2 fix,3 fix, 4 fix. I'm pretty confident Im a 2 or 4 fix so I did list some info if anyone wanted to give an input or a recommendation.Regarding Gut types I know I have a 1 fix but I can't tell if it's core or secondary.(I'm reposting this from earlier because I added some things)

How I want to be perceived: I hope I can be perceived as someone who is overall an upright and moral person. I want to be recognized for my strong principles and my desire to be selfless and make an impact.I do want to spread a sense of wisdom and change people outlooks for better.

Interests: I'm interested in politics,law and topics revolving around morality and justice.I'm very into movies and creative works. I like to write stories and have dreamed of being a director or actor and reflecting stories with deep meanings and reflections of society.

Shame/Guilt: My relationship with shame and guilt in primarily tied to failing my standards or past mistakes. I often can feel guilt and feel I'm never good enough. It's mainly tied to my character more than competence in ways that I would be more ashamed of a moral failing than anything else but do get annoyed easily when I mess up or am perceived as incompetent which often makes me want to prove others wrong or my worth.

Anger: My relationship with anger is more in a sense of frustration.I get very irritated when I can't have all the right answers to not everything is perfect especially myself. I do often hold back my judgements or anger because I try my best to be accepting and not rude but I will say something if I feel very obligated to.I can be resentful of those I perceive as immoral or who have done me wrong but I try to move past that and be forgiving.

Social Interaction: I'm often perceived as very quiet and calm. I've been told I can come across serious or overly polite throughout my life. Those close to me know that I hold strong principles and I have a deep desire to do good. I show this through being very caring and often find myself in the role of a therapist for others. I've also been told I'm very "head in clouds" or come across that way and that I'm very introspective.

Fits 2/4: What I relate to on both types is how I cultivate a "Ideal self" or a correct kind of identity and constantly remind myself that's how I should be.This Ideal I strive to be is mainly linked to being good and being of honorable character and I can relate to thinking this is how I will show my worth and receive love.I do value emotions and always try to have empathy as-well. I can feel both superior and inferior at times or that i'm not good enough.

Contradicts 2: I'm not a very socially outgoing person while I am always attuned to others emotions and people oriented, I often will sit back and observe. I do try my best to focus on the positive but can often see negative sides or flaws very easily but I never want to project negativity unless I'm doing something for the better.I can be prideful about somethings mainly believing that I can be more virtuous but I know this is self righteous so I try to fix that and keep myself humble.I'm not "performative" but I can try to get attention or impress though I rarely act on it.I don't primarily relate to many of the subtype maybe only SP2 or SO2 but not extremely.

Contradicts 4: I can dwell or be self indulgent at times but this often makes me feel guilty and while I think emotions are good and can bring growth I try my best to not focus on the negative because I don't believe that is overall a good mindset. I can get very annoyed when I can't get out my unhealthy loops and don't want to bathe in my emotions.I often try to fit in even though it can be hard especially if others around me are doing what I perceive as wrong.I can experience envy but I would never let in impact my decisions and it's mainly about when others are perceived as morally superior to me.I only relate mainly to the SP4 subtype and a little to SO4.

Fits 1:Overall my main fears like being fundamentally flawed or immoral,desires and most structures fit very well. I'm very overall critical,I often criticize myself in my head or get annoyed with myself on how I feel I can never do anything right.I do express my judgements if I think it's best and if something violates a moral standard but I've worked on being more easygoing and open minded.

Contradicts1:For 1, I do have OCD which can mimic and influence 1-like behaviors. I don't fit many of the super productive/organized or cold stereotype,I am rigid surrounding morality,ideals and what I deem right but I'm overall a pretty chill person and like to joke around.I relate to SP1 and SO1 not SX1.I'm a INFJ and heard it can contradict 1.

Coping Mechanism: I've been a maladaptive daydreamer and very imaginative since young. I often do this to gain a sense admiration or control. Imaging me accomplishing my goals,getting famous and getting recognized for something great to significant.I mainly do this because It's a place that can feel more perfect,where I finally am my ideal or receive the recognition I want. I definitely always check to make sure I am who I want to be in that I mean I'm meeting my ideal or being a role model.I often get annoyed when I do something that contradicts my self image or when someone accuses me of something that contradicts it.

This is the main things I could think for the differences. I did look into the triads or structures and can relate to parts of both types. Overall if anything stands out on which fix it points towards or you have some insight that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

Heart/Gut type Confusion

I've been trying to figure out my heart type and gut type for a bit and looking for some sources of what I know is your heart type is how you handle shame,identity and image and your gut type is how you handle autonomy,anger and control but I'm trying to find the differences between a 2 fix,3 fix, 4 fix. I'm pretty confident Im a 2 or 4 fix so I did list some info if anyone wanted to give an input or a recommendation.Regarding Gut types I know I have a 1 fix but I can't tell if it's core or secondary.

How I want to be perceived: I hope I can be perceived as someone who is overall an upright and moral person. I want to be recognized for my strong principles and my desire to be selfless and make an impact.I do want to spread a sense of wisdom and change people outlooks for better.

Interests: I'm interested in politics,law and topics revolving around morality and justice.I'm very into movies and creative works. I like to write stories and have dreamed of being a director or actor and reflecting stories with deep meanings and reflections of society.

Shame/Guilt: My relationship with shame and guilt in primarily tied to failing my standards or past mistakes. I often can feel guilt and feel I'm never good enough. It's mainly tied to my character more than competence in ways that I would be more ashamed of a moral failing than anything else but do get annoyed easily when I mess up or am perceived as incompetent which often makes me want to prove others wrong or my worth.

Anger: My relationship with anger is more in a sense of frustration.I get very irritated when I can't have all the right answers to not everything is perfect especially myself. I do often hold back my judgements or anger because I try my best to be accepting and not rude but I will say something if I feel very obligated to.I can be resentful of those I perceive as immoral or who have done me wrong but I try to move past that and be forgiving.

Social Interaction: I'm often perceived as very quiet and calm. I've been told I can come across serious or overly polite throughout my life. Those close to me know that I hold strong principles and I have a deep desire to do good. I show this through being very caring and often find myself in the role of a therapist for others. I've also been told I'm very "head in clouds" or come across that way and that I'm very introspective.

Fits 2/4: What I relate to on both types is how I cultivate a "Ideal self" or a correct kind of identity and constantly remind myself that's how I should be.This Ideal I strive to be is mainly linked to being good and being of honorable character and I can relate to thinking this is how I will show my worth and receive love.I do value emotions and always try to have empathy as-well.

Contradicts 2: I'm not a very socially outgoing person while I am always attuned to others emotions and people oriented, I often will sit back and observe. I do try my best to focus on the positive but can often see negative sides or flaws very easily but I never want to project negativity unless I'm doing something for the better.I can be prideful about somethings mainly believing that I can be more virtuous but I know this is self righteous so I try to fix that and keep myself humble.I'm not "performative" but I can try to get attention or impress though I rarely act on it.I don't primarily relate to many of the subtype maybe only SP2 or SO2 but not extremely.

Contradicts 4: I can dwell or be self indulgent at times but this often makes me feel guilty and while I think emotions are good and can bring growth I try my best to not focus on the negative because I don't believe that is overall a good mindset. I can get very annoyed when I can't get out my unhealthy loops and don't want to bathe in my emotions.I often try to fit in even though it can be hard especially if others around me are doing what I perceive as wrong.I can experience envy but I would never let in impact my decisions and it's mainly about when others are perceived as morally superior to me.I only relate mainly to the SP4 subtype and a little to SO4.

Fits 1:Overall my main fears like being fundamentally flawed or immoral,desires and most structures fit very well.

Contradicts: For 1, I do have OCD which can mimic and influence 1-like behaviors. I don't fit many of the super productive/organized or cold stereotypes.I relate to SP1 and SO1 not SX1.I'm a INFJ and heard it can contradict 1.

Coping Mechanism: I've been a maladaptive daydreamer and very imaginative since young. I often do this to gain a sense admiration or control. Imaging me accomplishing my goals,getting famous and getting recognized for something great to significant.I mainly do this because It's a place that can feel more perfect,where I finally am my ideal or receive the recognition I want. I definitely always check to make sure I am who I want to be in that I mean I'm meeting my ideal or being a role model.I often get annoyed when I do something that contradicts my self image or when someone accuses me of something that contradicts it.

This is the main things I could think for the differences. I did look into the triads or structures and can relate to parts of both types. Overall if anything stands out on which fix it points towards or you have some insight that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

I've been trying to figure out my heart type and gut type for a bit and looking for some sources of what I know is your heart type is how you handle shame,identity and image and your gut type is how you handle autonomy,anger and control but I'm trying to find the differences between a 2 fix,3 fix, 4 fix. I'm pretty confident Im a 2 or 4 fix so I did list some info if anyone wanted to give an input or a recommendation.Regarding Gut types I know I have a 1 fix but I can't tell if it's core or secondary.

How I want to be perceived: I hope I can be perceived as someone who is overall an upright and moral person. I want to be recognized for my strong principles and my desire to be selfless and make an impact.I do want to spread a sense of wisdom and change people outlooks for better.

Interests: I'm interested in politics,law and topics revolving around morality and justice.I'm very into movies and creative works. I like to write stories and have dreamed of being a director or actor and reflecting stories with deep meanings and reflections of society.

Shame/Guilt: My relationship with shame and guilt in primarily tied to failing my standards or past mistakes. I often can feel guilt and feel I'm never good enough. It's mainly tied to my character more than competence in ways that I would be more ashamed of a moral failing than anything else but do get annoyed easily when I mess up or am perceived as incompetent which often makes me want to prove others wrong or my worth.

Anger: My relationship with anger is more in a sense of frustration.I get very irritated when I can't have all the right answers to not everything is perfect especially myself. I do often hold back my judgements or anger because I try my best to be accepting and not rude but I will say something if I feel very obligated to.I can be resentful of those I perceive as immoral or who have done me wrong but I try to move past that and be forgiving.

Social Interaction: I'm often perceived as very quiet and calm. I've been told I can come across serious or overly polite throughout my life. Those close to me know that I hold strong principles and I have a deep desire to do good. I show this through being very caring and often find myself in the role of a therapist for others. I've also been told I'm very "head in clouds" or come across that way and that I'm very introspective.

Fits 2/4: What I relate to on both types is how I cultivate a "Ideal self" or a correct kind of identity and constantly remind myself that's how I should be.This Ideal I strive to be is mainly linked to being good and being of honorable character and I can relate to thinking this is how I will show my worth and receive love.I do value emotions and always try to have empathy as-well. I can feel both superior and inferior at times or that i'm not good enough.

Contradicts 2: I'm not a very socially outgoing person while I am always attuned to others emotions and people oriented, I often will sit back and observe. I do try my best to focus on the positive but can often see negative sides or flaws very easily but I never want to project negativity unless I'm doing something for the better.I can be prideful about somethings mainly believing that I can be more virtuous but I know this is self righteous so I try to fix that and keep myself humble.I'm not "performative" but I can try to get attention or impress though I rarely act on it.I don't primarily relate to many of the subtype maybe only SP2 or SO2 but not extremely.

Contradicts 4: I can dwell or be self indulgent at times but this often makes me feel guilty and while I think emotions are good and can bring growth I try my best to not focus on the negative because I don't believe that is overall a good mindset. I can get very annoyed when I can't get out my unhealthy loops and don't want to bathe in my emotions.I often try to fit in even though it can be hard especially if others around me are doing what I perceive as wrong.I can experience envy but I would never let in impact my decisions and it's mainly about when others are perceived as morally superior to me.I only relate mainly to the SP4 subtype and a little to SO4.

Fits 1:Overall my main fears like being fundamentally flawed or immoral,desires and most structures fit very well. I'm very overall critical,I often criticize myself in my head or get annoyed with myself on how I feel I can never do anything right.I do express my judgements if I think it's best and if something violates a moral standard but I've worked on being more easygoing and open minded.

Contradicts: For 1, I do have OCD which can mimic and influence 1-like behaviors. I don't fit many of the super productive/organized or cold stereotype,I am rigid surrounding morality,ideals and what I deem right but I'm overall a pretty chill person and like to joke around.I relate to SP1 and SO1 not SX1.I'm a INFJ and heard it can contradict 1.

Coping Mechanism: I've been a maladaptive daydreamer and very imaginative since young. I often do this to gain a sense admiration or control. Imaging me accomplishing my goals,getting famous and getting recognized for something great to significant.I mainly do this because It's a place that can feel more perfect,where I finally am my ideal or receive the recognition I want. I definitely always check to make sure I am who I want to be in that I mean I'm meeting my ideal or being a role model.I often get annoyed when I do something that contradicts my self image or when someone accuses me of something that contradicts it.

This is the main things I could think for the differences. I did look into the triads or structures and can relate to parts of both types. Overall if anything stands out on which fix it points towards or you have some insight that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

I've been trying to figure out my heart type for a bit and looking for some sources of what I know if your heart type is how you handle shame,identity and image but I'm trying to find the differences between a 2 fix,3 fix, 4 fix. I'm pretty confident Im a 2 or 4 fix so I did list some info if anyone wanted to give an input or a recommendation.

How I want to be perceived: I hope I can be perceived as someone who is overall an upright and moral person. I want to be recognized for my strong principles and my desire to be selfless and make an impact.I do want to spread a sense of wisdom and change people outlooks for better.

Interests: I'm interested in politics,law and topics revolving around morality and justice.I'm very into movies and creative works. I like to write stories and have dreamed of being a director or actor and reflecting stories with deep meanings and reflections of society.

Shame/Guilt: My relationship with shame and guilt in primarily tied to failing my standards or past mistakes. I often can feel guilt and feel I'm never good enough. It's mainly tied to my character more than competence in ways that I would be more ashamed of a moral failing than anything else but do get annoyed easily when I mess up or am perceived as incompetent which often makes me want to prove others wrong or my worth.

Social Interaction: I'm often perceived as very quiet and calm. I've been told I can come across serious or overly polite throughout my life. Those close to me know that I hold strong principles and I have a deep desire to do good. I show this through being very caring and often find myself in the role of a therapist for others. I've also been told I'm very "head in clouds" or come across that way and that I'm very introspective.

Contradicts 2: I'm not a very socially outgoing person while I am always attuned to others emotions and people oriented, I often will sit back and observe. I do try my best to focus on the positive but can often see negative sides or flaws very easily but I never want to project negativity unless I'm doing something for the better.I can be prideful about somethings mainly believing that I can be more virtuous but I know this is self righteous so I try to fix that and keep myself humble.I'm not "performative" but I can try to get attention or impress though I rarely act on it.I don't primarily relate to many of the subtype maybe only SP2 or SO2 but not extremely.

Contradicts 4: I can dwell or be self indulgent at times but this often makes me feel guilty and while I think emotions are good and can bring growth I try my best to not focus on the negative because I don't believe that is overall a good mindset. I can get very annoyed when I can't get out my unhealthy loops and don't want to bathe in my emotions.I often try to fit in even though it can be hard especially if others around me are doing what I perceive as wrong.I can experience envy but I would never let in impact my decisions and it's mainly about when others are perceived as morally superior to me.I only relate mainly to the SP4 subtype and a little to SO4.

Coping Mechanism: I've been a maladaptive daydreamer and very imaginative since young. I often do this to gain a sense admiration or control. Imaging me accomplishing my goals,getting famous and getting recognized for something great to significant.I mainly do this because It's a place that can feel more perfect,where I finally am my ideal or receive the recognition I want. I definitely always check to make sure I am who I want to be in that I mean I'm meeting my ideal or being a role model.I often get annoyed when I do something that contradicts my self image or when someone accuses me of something that contradicts it.

This is the main things I could think for the differences. I did look into the triads or structures and can relate to parts of both types. Overall if anything stands out on which fix it points towards or you have some insight that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

I've been trying to figure out my heart type for a bit and looking for some sources of what I know if your heart type is how you handle shame,identity and image but I'm trying to find the differences between a 2 fix,3 fix, 4 fix. I'm pretty confident Im a 2 or 4 fix so I did list some info if anyone wanted to give an input or a recommendation.

How I want to be perceived: I hope I can be perceived as someone who is overall an upright and moral person. I want to be recognized for my strong principles and my desire to be selfless and make an impact.I do want to spread a sense of wisdom and change people outlooks for better.

Interests: I'm interested in politics,law and topics revolving around morality and justice.I'm very into movies and creative works. I like to write stories and have dreamed of being a director or actor and reflecting stories with deep meanings and reflections of society.

Shame/Guilt: My relationship with shame and guilt in primarily tied to failing my standards or past mistakes. I often can feel guilt and feel I'm never good enough. It's mainly tied to my character more than competence in ways that I would be more ashamed of a moral failing than anything else but do get annoyed easily when I mess up or am perceived as incompetent which often makes me want to prove others wrong or my worth.

Social Interaction: I'm often perceived as very quiet and calm. I've been told I can come across serious or overly polite throughout my life. Those close to me know that I hold strong principles and I have a deep desire to do good. I show this through being very caring and often find myself in the role of a therapist for others. I've also been told I'm very "head in clouds" or come across that way and that I'm very introspective.

Contradicts 2: I'm not a very socially outgoing person while I am always attuned to others emotions and people oriented, I often will sit back and observe. I do try my best to focus on the positive but can often see negative sides or flaws very easily but I never want to project negativity unless I'm doing something for the better.I can be prideful about somethings mainly believing that I can be more virtuous but I know this is self righteous so I try to fix that and keep myself humble.I'm not "performative" but I can try to get attention or impress though I rarely act on it.I don't primarily relate to many of the subtype only SP2 or SO2 but not extremely.

Contradicts 4: I can dwell or be self indulgent at times but this often makes me feel guilty and while I think emotions are good and can bring growth I try my best to not focus on the negative because I don't believe that is overall a good mindset. I can get very annoyed when I can't get out my unhealthy loops and don't want to bathe in my emotions.I often try to fit in even though it can be hard especially if others around me are doing what I perceive as wrong.I can experience envy but I would never let in impact my decisions and it's mainly about when others are perceived as morally superior to me.I only relate mainly to the SP4 subtype and a little to SO4.

Coping Mechanism: I've been a maladaptive daydreamer and very imaginative since young. I often do this to gain a sense admiration or control. Imaging me accomplishing my goals,getting famous and getting recognized for something great to significant.I mainly do this because It's a place that can feel more perfect,where I finally am my ideal or receive the recognition I want. I definitely always check to make sure I am who I want to be in that I mean I'm meeting my ideal or being a role model.I often get annoyed when I do something that contradicts my self image or when someone accuses me of something that contradicts it.

This is the main things I could think for the differences. I did look into the triads or structures and can relate to parts of both types. Overall if anything stands out on which fix it points towards or you have some insight that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

While researching types I was wondering if their is a type or few types that are very oriented or fixated towards reaching their "ideal" in a way of themselves being perfect or to have the identity and be the person they strive to be. This seems like many types especially 1,3,4 and 7 but I'm trying to narrow down the differences.

I'm wondering cause I'm very fixated on who I believe I should be and trying to live up to it. My Ideal Self is centered around mainly achieving my goals and accomplishing my dreams while also being someone of noble and selfless character. Overall I do want to be morally perfect both inside and outside so I always watch myself to make sure I'm living up to my ideal on who I think I should be in both morality and competence ways.

I'm often described as Idealistic by some of my friends and family mainly because I do have strong dreams and often can be a daydreamer in that of wanting to accomplish these despite them being unrealistic. It's that I want to make sure I use my purpose for something good or inspire others to as-well so I do desire being significant as-well.

If this leans towards a type or if anyone has some insight on this I would appreciate the help. Thanks!

While researching types I was wondering if their is a type or few types that are very oriented or fixated towards reaching their "ideal" in a way of themselves being perfect or to have the identity and be the person they strive to be. This seems like many types especially 1,3,4 and 7 but I'm trying to narrow down the differences.

I'm wondering cause I'm very fixated on who I believe I should be and trying to live up to it. My Ideal Self is centered around mainly achieving my goals and accomplishing my dreams while also being someone of noble and selfless character. Overall I do want to be morally perfect both inside and outside so I always watch myself to make sure I'm living up to my ideal on who I think I should be in both morality and competence ways.

I'm often described as Idealistic by some of my friends and family mainly because I do have strong dreams and often can be a daydreamer in that of wanting to accomplish these despite them being unrealistic. It's that I want to make sure I use my purpose for something good or inspire others to as-well so I do desire being significant as-well.

If this leans towards a type or if anyone has some insight on this I would appreciate the help. Thanks!

Hello I'm trying to find the difference between INFJ and ENFJ. I've done some research and these are 2 types I'm stuck between on finding the difference.
I left some info if it helps with showing the differences.I also listed some things about other functions.

Ni-Se vs Ne-Si
To start, I am always inside my head, thinking and self-monitoring. I notice my own thought processes, and then I think about those thoughts, trying to find the meaning and reasons behind them, both in the moment and from the past. I end up breaking things down into categorical thinking or concepts. It feels like I am always in conflict with my own brain, constantly finding the 'why.' It's as if I can rewire my thinking, too; I will notice a thought I don't like, make sense of it, and then undo that negative thinking.I am also very aware of contradictory information and measure it up in my head.

For example, I’ll see someone take an action and, based on past information, think they fit into a specific box. I am a very future-oriented person and big-picture focused, attempting to predict how events in my environment or the people around me will behave.

For example, if someone says something, I can imagine the events that will play out, and from there, I can think about what needs to be done and the actions I need to take to prevent a problem or create a benefit. I also do this with how I imagine others perceive me—I try to infer what they are thinking or how I can help them. If I'm talking to someone, I ensure everything I say won't annoy or upset them. I imagine what their reactions would be, which helps me word things correctly or guess what they will say or do next.

I'm a big daydreamer and quite creative, which I know is common among high Ni/Ne users. I often use this for imagining what I’m going to do in the future or what steps I can take towards a goal. I often do this when I work out because I enjoy the mental stimulation, but sometimes it makes me a little too detached from reality in my own world of idealism.

Fi-Te vs Fe-Ti
I have a very big desire to be overall morally upright person and try to inspire goodness being role model.My morals decision making is linked to my internal morals,social norms and religious beliefs.My beliefs are mainly focused outwards and when I take moral action my decisions are always making sure others are safe and good. I always feel a sense of obligation or think in "shoulds" all the time. I have a few examples on how it works and the process of it.

For example: If someone around me says something I think is wrong or someone needs help and I then think "I should try to guide them towards what's right or atleast say something" or "We shouldn't be acting like this". I feel the responsibility for making sure everything goes right or others do what's right hoping to benefit them.But sometimes I don't say anything cause I don't wanna come across as rude or self righteous but can feel guilty like I both failed to act morally and failed others.

For example: I'll see litter on the street and immediately think "I should clean that up,it harms the environment or someone could trip". It's things like this or "I need to make sure to hold the door everyone and make sure they are comfortable,be a gentleman and uphold the image of a role model". This is the main processes of my mind and I tried my best but it was hard to explain for somethings so sorry if it wasn't very clear or the greatest examples

Thanks so much. I also would like to include I do have OCD so this does play a part in this but still thank you to anyone with an input or insight on this.

Hello this is repost from earlier today because I've realized some new things and wanted to add some info and a poll cause I would probably get a little more input and feedback through it. I've also put some information about me below if it helps. I tried to be as truthful and objective as possible but I did write it so I'm aware I may be biased in some ways I also have OCD and only 18 so that may influence it but I got my friends to help a bit as-well. Overall it's pretty long so it's fine if you don't read it but I appreciate the help.

What I'm pretty confident I am:
MBTI:INFJ
Enneagram:1w2 sp/so(SP1)
Tritype:126
Soconics:EII
Big5:RLOAI

What else I considered:
MBTI:ENFJ
Enneagram: SP4(416),SO6(614/612),SO1
Tritype:125/146
Soconics:ESI

MBTI:
Ni-Se vs Ne-Si
To start, I am always inside my head, thinking and self-monitoring. I notice my own thought processes, and then I think about \\\*those\\\* thoughts, trying to find the meaning and reasons behind them, both in the moment and from the past. I end up breaking things down into categorical thinking or concepts. It feels like I am always in conflict with my own brain, constantly finding the 'why.' It's as if I can rewire my thinking, too; I will notice a thought I don't like, make sense of it, and then undo that negative thinking.I am also very aware of contradictory information and measure it up in my head. For example, I’ll see someone take an action and, based on past information, think they fit into a specific box. I am a very future-oriented person and big-picture focused, attempting to predict how events in my environment or the people around me will behave. For example, if someone says something, I can imagine the events that will play out, and from there, I can think about what needs to be done and the actions I need to take to prevent a problem or create a benefit. I also do this with how I imagine others perceive me—I try to infer what they are thinking or how I can help them. If I'm talking to someone, I ensure everything I say won't annoy or upset them. I imagine what their reactions would be, which helps me word things correctly or guess what they will say or do next. I'm a big daydreamer and quite creative, which I know is common among high Ni/Ne users. I often use this for imagining what I’m going to do in the future or what steps I can take towards a goal. I often do this when I work out because I enjoy the mental stimulation, but sometimes it makes me a little too detached from reality in my own world of idealism.

Fi-Te vs Fe-Ti
I have a very big desire to be overall morally upright person and try to inspire goodness being role model.My morals decision making is linked to my internal morals,social norms and religious beliefs.My beliefs are mainly focused outwards and when I take moral action my decisions are always making sure others are safe and good. I always feel a sense of obligation or think in "shoulds" all the time. I have a few examples on how it works and the process of it. For example: If someone around me says something I think is wrong or someone needs help and I then think "I should try to guide them towards what's right or atleast say something" or "We shouldn't be acting like this". I feel the responsibility for making sure everything goes right or others do what's right hoping to benefit them.But sometimes I don't say anything cause I don't wanna come across as rude or self righteous but can feel guilty like I both failed to act morally and failed others. For example: I'll see litter on the street and immediately think "I should clean that up,it harms the environment or someone could trip". It's things like this or "I need to make sure to hold the door everyone and make sure they are comfortable,be a gentleman and uphold the image of a role model". This is the main processes of my mind and I tried my best but it was hard to explain for somethings so sorry if it wasn't very clear or the greatest examples

Enneagram:
My Core Motivations, Desires, and Fears

My core motivation in life is to be a person of strong noble character and to inspire goodness through principles and kindness. I want to do what is right and beneficial for both myself and others. I also want to leave a legacy and significant impact for good or something that truly matters.I do want to be important and noticed for my positive qualities.My main fear is the belief that I may be, or become, fundamentally "bad"—meaning evil, immoral, incompetent,lacking or defective.Growing up, I strived to be as virtuous as possible, wanting to improve myself and the world. I believed I couldn't afford to make mistakes and that it was unacceptable to do so—especially moral ones. This created a deep need for a sense of control and a desire to avoid being judged as flawed. Consequently, this pressure leads to relentless self-criticism, anger, guilt, and shame.I'm interested in careers in law,politics,philosophy and filmmaking. Surface Level .

Growing up I always did really like movies was pretty creative and dreamed about making my own movies mainly superhero movies. I also had dreams about being the "best" either being at a job,athlete,president etc and getting a sense of accomplishment or validation. When I started to get older I still had an interest in movies but they started to be more about creating movies with deeper meanings or to spread wisdom. I do care about a sense of admiration or recognition but I would rather do so in ways that can bring good and promote righteousness and kindness. Mainly finding my worth in wanting to great things in ways connected to morality. While I still have these dreams they connect always to a form of doing "good" and me looking for a purpose mainly through morality. I often feel guilty when I have "selfish" dreams or things that won't actually impact the world in ways that actually matter or if I'm not making progress towards it. I'm only 18 so this definitely may change overtime but It's I'm wondering if these reflect anything. I guess it's a desire for a sense of significance.

Coping mechanisms:Most my coping mechanisms revolve around me just trying to keep my "ideal" self image or ensure I'm right and stay in control especially internally. I also have been a maladaptive daydreamer to get really gain a sense of admiration,be in control or feel good enough.

Surface Level
On the surface, I appear quite quiet and reserved. I am calm and controlled; I rarely lash out or get offended. If I recognize those emotions or thoughts inside me, I tend to repress them. Some people assume I am more serious than I actually am, but I really enjoy joking around.My close friends view me as silly and funny, but they also know I am responsible and principled. They understand that I know where to draw the line and will call others out if needed. They also see that I have a lot of empathy and compassion; I try my best to guide them toward what I believe is best for them.

Inner World
My inner world is constantly critical, especially regarding my own shortcomings and when something is wrong in my environment. I feel a strong urge to act when I see something wrong, often thinking, "I should fix that," or "Do they need help?" I constantly remind myself to uphold the image of a "good man" and a role model, trying to lead by example.I sometimes struggle with self-esteem because my worth is tied to being morally upright, which often makes me feel like I’m not "good enough" and hate when someone tries to be morally superior and act more virtuous than me.Since I was young, I’ve been very idealistic and imaginative. I often get lost in daydreams about my ideal future, self, or world, which sparks my creativity in storytelling.I'll keep this part short because it's mainly the same info as the cognitive functions part.

Ages 1-10
I don't remember everything about this time but from what my parents have told me I was a pretty normal and happy kid.I was both a quiet,organized and responsible who would follow the rules and look out for others while being able to be funny,imaginative,optimistic and adventurous.I was a big class clown growing up.I do remember feeling constantly criticized and that I was either wrong,bad,incompetent or lacking in some way compared to others and was sensitive to criticism.

Ages 11-13
Around this age, I began to develop a deep fear of being immoral, "bad," or corrupt. This was mainly due to intrusive thoughts that I hated, which made me fear I was a bad person. This led me to analyze my behavior closely, looking for contradictions. Everything always came back to whether I was "good," creating a drive to always do what is right. My parents told me I’ve had this trait since I was a toddler that I would weigh out options to find the best solution to make sure everything went correctly and things were in order like even my toys. Though I don’t remember it myself.

Ages 14–16
My motive remained centered on being moral and doing what is right. I became more aware of these urges, which often resulted in thoughts like, "I should help" or "I should do something." I constantly think in "should's" like I need fulfill a obligation and live up to my ideal of who I should be.This led to a lot of shame and guilt over my shortcomings, as well as anger when the world failed to meet my standards. I found my significance and worth through being a moral and noble person who could guide others. I put on a persona to be a role model for others through morality and being seen as a good heroic person but then when my friends told my that come across to self righteous and moralizing this really hurt cause I really thought I was helping and doing what was right.This made me realize I need to be more accepting and try to not always judge others.

Ages 17-18
This is when I discovered the Enneagram. I immediately recognized myself in Type 1 through its motives, desires, and fears. However, the more I looked into the system, the more I started to overthink it. When I first thought I was a Type 1, it made me feel validated—like I was a morally good person because I tried so hard and loved that I shared a type with fictional characters I like as-well. Being labeled the "moral/noble" type felt good, but that felt contradictory to the system's purpose. I did feel called out and embarrassed by traits in 4 and 6 I remember but I don't know if that's from disintegration or not.This led to an obsession with my identity and my type, causing me to question it on a loop which was probably influenced by age and OCD. For example: I might see someone who needs help and immediately think, "I should help them or fix their issue." But then my head immediately says, "You don’t actually want to help them; you just want to be a 'Type 1' who fixes things."This loop is exhausting because it makes me question if my actions are ever morally pure. Even though multiple people have called me a "textbook 1," I still feel the need to be 100% certain that I am right due to my OCD but I'm getting better with its just annoying that's it grabbed on to this.

What I relate to for each type
Type 1:I relate to their core motives/fears the most, Very driven by morality and perfectionism.I constantly feel the urge for control and to "fix" what's wrong.I'm a Critical person overall of both others and myself.I relate to their defense Mechanism a lot like Reaction Formations.I'm very self controlled and try to keep myself in check always.I relate to both wings(2/9).I relate to both disintegration/stress patterns a lot.Most people have typed me this type.I've only ever gotten 1 on test. Around 40 people have typed me a 1.

Against 1:I be slow to take action at times and can get stuck in my head.I'm a lot more empathetic and calm than some stereotypical behaviors.I only relate to SO and SP instinct not SX much.I can sometimes wallow when unhealthy.I often feel i'm not perfect or good enough to be a 1.

For 4:I'm do relate to wanting to be significant and making an impact.I'm very hard on myself and self critical.I want try to live up to an Ideal Self.I try to understand but Identity and make sure I know about it.Imaginative and can be escapist with fantasies of saving the world or doing something cool and great.Image conscious.I can relate to feeling flawed or inferior.

4:I don't relate much to the 3 wing. I don't really relate much to the 2/1 growth/stress arrows.I only really relate to SP4.I hate wallowing in emotions and always try to get out of it even if hard.I don't want to be tragic or identify with my flaws.I do value authenticity but can struggle to be myself.I only relate a lot 1-2 defense mechanisms.I'm not reactive.

For 2:I try my best to a Role model for others and guide them.I do enjoy spending time with people alot of my friends view me and nurturing and caring.I always try to keep the peace and when there a fight I feel the urge to resolve or fix it.My Image is mainly tied to being perceived as good/moral.I focus on the positive.I do want to be important.

Against 2:I'm not very emotional despite my empathy.I don't manipulate others or go out of my way to get validation.I don't relate to the 3 wing.I'm not very extroverted or socially outgoing.

For 6:I can overthink and to want to find a certain outcome to things.I have anxiety.I try to protect and defend others.I'm Loyal and dutiful.I always think in "Should's".

Against 6: I think a lot of these behaviors may be OCD.I don't relate much to stress/growth patterns.I only relate mainly to the 5-wing.I'm not reactive. I deal with fear less than shame or anger.

Thanks so much sorry it being so long! If you do vote something different please comment or message me. Thanks

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Hello this is repost from earlier because I've realized some new things and wanted to add some info. I've also put some information about me below if it helps. I tried to be as truthful and objective as possible but I did write so I'm aware I may be biased in some ways but I got my friends to help a bit as-well. Overall it's pretty long so it's fine if you don't read it but I appreciate the help.

MBTI:INFJ or ENFJ
Types I'm between:1(SP1,SO1),6(SO6),4(SP4),2

MBTI:
Ni-Se vs Ne-Si
To start, I am always inside my head, thinking and self-monitoring. I notice my own thought processes, and then I think about \*those\* thoughts, trying to find the meaning and reasons behind them, both in the moment and from the past. I end up breaking things down into categorical thinking or concepts. It feels like I am always in conflict with my own brain, constantly finding the 'why.' It's as if I can rewire my thinking, too; I will notice a thought I don't like, make sense of it, and then undo that negative thinking.I am also very aware of contradictory information and measure it up in my head. For example, I’ll see someone take an action and, based on past information, think they fit into a specific box. I am a very future-oriented person and big-picture focused, attempting to predict how events in my environment or the people around me will behave. For example, if someone says something, I can imagine the events that will play out, and from there, I can think about what needs to be done and the actions I need to take to prevent a problem or create a benefit. I also do this with how I imagine others perceive me—I try to infer what they are thinking or how I can help them. If I'm talking to someone, I ensure everything I say won't annoy or upset them. I imagine what their reactions would be, which helps me word things correctly or guess what they will say or do next. I'm a big daydreamer and quite creative, which I know is common among high Ni/Ne users. I often use this for imagining what I’m going to do in the future or what steps I can take towards a goal. I often do this when I work out because I enjoy the mental stimulation, but sometimes it makes me a little too detached from reality in my own world of idealism.

Fi-Te vs Fe-Ti
I have a very big desire to be overall morally upright person and try to inspire goodness being role model.My morals decision making is linked to my internal morals,social norms and religious beliefs.My beliefs are mainly focused outwards and when I take moral action my decisions are always making sure others are safe and good. I always feel a sense of obligation or think in "shoulds" all the time. I have a few examples on how it works and the process of it. For example: If someone around me says something I think is wrong or someone needs help and I then think "I should try to guide them towards what's right or atleast say something" or "We shouldn't be acting like this". I feel the responsibility for making sure everything goes right or others do what's right hoping to benefit them.But sometimes I don't say anything cause I don't wanna come across as rude or self righteous but can feel guilty like I both failed to act morally and failed others. For example: I'll see litter on the street and immediately think "I should clean that up,it harms the environment or someone could trip". It's things like this or "I need to make sure to hold the door everyone and make sure they are comfortable,be a gentleman and uphold the image of a role model". This is the main processes of my mind and I tried my best but it was hard to explain for somethings so sorry if it wasn't very clear or the greatest examples

Enneagram:
My Core Motivations, Desires, and Fears

My core motivation in life is to be a person of strong noble character and to inspire goodness through principles and kindness. I want to do what is right and beneficial for both myself and others. I also want to leave a legacy and significant impact for good or something that truly matters.I do want to be important and noticed for my positive qualities.My main fear is the belief that I may be, or become, fundamentally "bad"—meaning evil, immoral, incompetent,lacking or defective.Growing up, I strived to be as virtuous as possible, wanting to improve myself and the world. I believed I couldn't afford to make mistakes and that it was unacceptable to do so—especially moral ones. This created a deep need for a sense of control and a desire to avoid being judged as flawed. Consequently, this pressure leads to relentless self-criticism, anger, guilt, and shame.I'm interested in careers in law,politics,philosophy and filmmaking. Surface Level .

Growing up I always did really like movies was pretty creative and dreamed about making my own movies mainly superhero movies. I also had dreams about being the "best" either being at a job,athlete,president etc and getting a sense of accomplishment or validation. When I started to get older I still had an interest in movies but they started to be more about creating movies with deeper meanings or to spread wisdom. I do care about a sense of admiration or recognition but I would rather do so in ways that can bring good and promote righteousness and kindness. Mainly finding my worth in wanting to great things in ways connected to morality. While I still have these dreams they connect always to a form of doing "good" and me looking for a purpose mainly through morality. I often feel guilty when I have "selfish" dreams or things that won't actually impact the world in ways that actually matter or if I'm not making progress towards it. I'm only 18 so this definitely may change overtime but It's I'm wondering if these reflect anything. I guess it's a desire for a sense of significance.

Coping mechanisms:Most my coping mechanisms revolve around me just trying to keep my "ideal" self image or ensure I'm right and stay in control especially internally. I also have been a maladaptive daydreamer to get really gain a sense of admiration,be in control or feel good enough.

Surface Level
On the surface, I appear quite quiet and reserved. I am calm and controlled; I rarely lash out or get offended. If I recognize those emotions or thoughts inside me, I tend to repress them. Some people assume I am more serious than I actually am, but I really enjoy joking around.My close friends view me as silly and funny, but they also know I am responsible and principled. They understand that I know where to draw the line and will call others out if needed. They also see that I have a lot of empathy and compassion; I try my best to guide them toward what I believe is best for them.

Inner World
My inner world is constantly critical, especially regarding my own shortcomings and when something is wrong in my environment. I feel a strong urge to act when I see something wrong, often thinking, "I should fix that," or "Do they need help?" I constantly remind myself to uphold the image of a "good man" and a role model, trying to lead by example.I sometimes struggle with self-esteem because my worth is tied to being morally upright, which often makes me feel like I’m not "good enough" and hate when someone tries to be morally superior and act more virtuous than me.Since I was young, I’ve been very idealistic and imaginative. I often get lost in daydreams about my ideal future, self, or world, which sparks my creativity in storytelling.I'll keep this part short because it's mainly the same info as the cognitive functions part.

Ages 1-10
I don't remember everything about this time but from what my parents have told me I was a pretty normal and happy kid.I was both a quiet,organized and responsible who would follow the rules and look out for others while being able to be funny,imaginative,optimistic and adventurous.I was a big class clown growing up.I do remember feeling constantly criticized and that I was either wrong,bad,incompetent or lacking in some way compared to others and was sensitive to criticism.

Ages 11-13
Around this age, I began to develop a deep fear of being immoral, "bad," or corrupt. This was mainly due to intrusive thoughts that I hated, which made me fear I was a bad person. This led me to analyze my behavior closely, looking for contradictions. Everything always came back to whether I was "good," creating a drive to always do what is right. My parents told me I’ve had this trait since I was a toddler that I would weigh out options to find the best solution to make sure everything went correctly and things were in order like even my toys. Though I don’t remember it myself.

Ages 14–16
My motive remained centered on being moral and doing what is right. I became more aware of these urges, which often resulted in thoughts like, "I should help" or "I should do something." I constantly think in "should's" like I need fulfill a obligation and live up to my ideal of who I should be.This led to a lot of shame and guilt over my shortcomings, as well as anger when the world failed to meet my standards. I found my significance and worth through being a moral and noble person who could guide others. I put on a persona to be a role model for others through morality and being seen as a good heroic person but then when my friends told my that come across to self righteous and moralizing this really hurt cause I really thought I was helping and doing what was right.This made me realize I need to be more accepting and try to not always judge others.

Ages 17-18
This is when I discovered the Enneagram. I immediately recognized myself in Type 1 through its motives, desires, and fears. However, the more I looked into the system, the more I started to overthink it. When I first thought I was a Type 1, it made me feel validated—like I was a morally good person because I tried so hard and loved that I shared a type with fictional characters I like as-well. Being labeled the "moral/noble" type felt good, but that felt contradictory to the system's purpose. I did feel called out and embarrassed by traits in 4 and 6 I remember but I don't know if that's from disintegration or not.This led to an obsession with my identity and my type, causing me to question it on a loop which was probably influenced by age and OCD. For example: I might see someone who needs help and immediately think, "I should help them or fix their issue." But then my head immediately says, "You don’t actually want to help them; you just want to be a 'Type 1' who fixes things."This loop is exhausting because it makes me question if my actions are ever morally pure. Even though multiple people have called me a "textbook 1," I still feel the need to be 100% certain that I am right due to my OCD but I'm getting better with its just annoying that's it grabbed on to this.

What I relate to for each type
Type 1:I relate to their core motives/fears the most, Very driven by morality and perfectionism.I constantly feel the urge for control and to "fix" what's wrong.I'm a Critical person overall of both others and myself.I relate to their defense Mechanism a lot like Reaction Formations.I'm very self controlled and try to keep myself in check always.I relate to both wings(2/9).I relate to both disintegration/stress patterns a lot.Most people have typed me this type.I've only ever gotten 1 on test. Around 40 people have typed me a 1.

Against 1:I be slow to take action at times and can get stuck in my head.I'm a lot more empathetic and calm than some stereotypical behaviors.I only relate to SO and SP instinct not SX much.I can sometimes wallow when unhealthy.I often feel i'm not perfect or good enough to be a 1.

For 4:I'm do relate to wanting to be significant and making an impact.I'm very hard on myself and self critical.I want try to live up to an Ideal Self.I try to understand but Identity and make sure I know about it.Imaginative and can be escapist with fantasies of saving the world or doing something cool and great.Image conscious.I can relate to feeling flawed or inferior.

4:I don't relate much to the 3 wing. I don't really relate much to the 2/1 growth/stress arrows.I only really relate to SP4.I hate wallowing in emotions and always try to get out of it even if hard.I don't want to be tragic or identify with my flaws.I do value authenticity but can struggle to be myself.I only relate a lot 1-2 defense mechanisms.I'm not reactive.

For 2:I try my best to a Role model for others and guide them.I do enjoy spending time with people alot of my friends view me and nurturing and caring.I always try to keep the peace and when there a fight I feel the urge to resolve or fix it.My Image is mainly tied to being perceived as good/moral.I focus on the positive.I do want to be important.

Against 2:I'm not very emotional despite my empathy.I don't manipulate others or go out of my way to get validation.I don't relate to the 3 wing.I'm not very extroverted or socially outgoing.

For 6:I can overthink and to want to find a certain outcome to things.I have anxiety.I try to protect and defend others.I'm Loyal and dutiful.I always think in "Should's".

Against 6: I think a lot of these behaviors may be OCD.I don't relate much to stress/growth patterns.I only relate mainly to the 5-wing.I'm not reactive. I deal with fear less than shame or anger.

Thanks so much sorry it being so long!

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I'm researching more about the enneagram and have read some of Naranjo,Hudson and a few other things to narrow down my type. I know core fear,motives and other aspects align best with 1 but I've heard SP4,SP3,SO7 and some other types often get mistaken for 1. I was thinking SP1 or SO1 but I'm wondering if anything stands out as a mistype or if theirs anything else I should look into.

Motive:To be a morally upright, noble person who serves as a role model and inspires goodness in others.I have a strong sense of

Fear:That I am or may become corrupt, flawed, immoral,defective or causing harm to others or the environment. I have a big fear of overall being wrong or not being what I want to be.

Desire: What I want is that I can always live up to my ideal. I do also wanna make impact or be significant in a way that matters through my career and life.

Gut Triad:

I often feel anger in more a way of frustration or things never being enough either externally or internally.

I make sure I have a sense of control and don't like expressing my negative emotions.Most people see me as overly calm.

I value Integrity,Autonomy and Justice.

I make many decisions from gut feelings.

I struggle with control and do have the urge to fix things but I often internalizes it or direct it at myself.

Heart Triad:

I can struggle with guilt and shame over not living up to my standards or past mistakes.

I do want a sense of admiration or recognition

I do want to be worthy and often try to prove my worth through integrity and goodness.

I try to make sure I have the correct identity or I am who I want to be.

I value empathy,emotions and love

I know most of this a very board and most people could relate but does this point towards a type?

I'm researching more about the enneagram and have read some of Naranjo,Hudson and a few other things to narrow down my type. I know core fear,motives and other aspects align best with 1 but I've heard SP4,SP3,SO7 and some other types often get mistaken for 1. I was thinking SP1 or SO1 but I'm wondering if anything stands out as a mistype or if theirs anything else I should look into.

Motive:To be a morally upright, noble person who serves as a role model and inspires goodness in others.I have a strong sense of

Fear:That I am or may become corrupt, flawed, immoral,defective or causing harm to others or the environment. I have a big fear of overall being wrong or not being what I want to be.

Desire: What I want is that I can always live up to my ideal. I do also wanna make impact or be significant in a way that matters through my career and life.

Gut Triad:

I often feel anger in more a way of frustration or things never being enough either externally or internally.

I make sure I have a sense of control and don't like expressing my negative emotions.Most people see me as overly calm.

I value Integrity,Autonomy and Justice.

I make many decisions from gut feelings.

I struggle with control and do have the urge to fix things but I often internalizes it or direct it at myself.

Heart Triad:

I can struggle with guilt and shame over not living up to my standards or past mistakes.

I do want a sense of admiration or recognition

I do want to be worthy and often try to prove my worth through integrity and goodness.

I try to make sure I have the correct identity or I am who I want to be.

I value empathy,emotions and love

I know most of this a very board and most people could relate but does this point towards a type?

I'm pretty new to enneagram but I have a question regarding finding your exact type.
So of my knowledge the enneagram is about your core motives,fears and others structures that's drives your actions. I know it signals both your strengths and flaws but the only way to explain is that core type your "shadow self". Like is it the type you don't like or see negative traits in yourself of.

I'm mainly asking because when looking into the enneagram I can relate to every type in some ways but Type 1 stood out to me immediately. I wasn't necessarily embarrassed by it I just read it and thought that fit me perfectly. I actually took it as a compliment at first because It was the "moral/good" type and a healthy type 1 is what I strive to be like. My friends and family also typed me as 1 and that I was very obviously that type.

While I did recognize flaws in type within me there was some other types I felt more embarrassed by or resonated with the negative traits more specifically type 4. I didn't think I would be a type 4 at all when I first read basic descriptions but when I researched more I did feel embarrassed by certain mechanisms or didn't like the type and wouldn't want to be like that because It showed some negative sides to me.I do relate to type 4 somewhat and I have met some really nice 4s so I don't have anything against that type but I do remember feeling called out by it in negative ways or when I'm my worst.

I know other factors like mbti,environment and etc may influence this but I'm curious if this is a normal thing.

Edit:
What I relate to for each type:
Type 1:I relate to their core motives/fears the most, Very driven by morality and perfectionism.I constantly feel the urge for control and to "fix" what's wrong.I'm a Critical person overall of both others and myself.I relate to their Defense Mechanism,Structures(Inner Critic,Reaction Formation).I'm very self controlled and try to keep myself in check always.I relate to both wings(2/9).I relate to both growth/stress patterns a lot.I only have gotten 1s on test.I constantly measure everything up to Ideal. My Ideal Self is primarily morality related.I can relate to the Gut Triad.

Against 1:I be slow to take action at times and can get stuck in my head.I'm a lot more empathetic and calm than some stereotypical behaviors.I only relate to SO and SP instinct not SX much.I can sometimes wallow when unhealthy.I often feel i'm not perfect or good enough to be a 1.

For 4:I'm do want to be significant and making an impact.I'm very hard on myself and self critical.I try to live up to an Ideal Self.I try to understand my Identity and make sure I know about it.Imaginative and can be escapist with fantasies of saving the world or doing something cool and great or getting attention.Image conscious.I can relate to feeling flawed or inferior. I can relate to the Heart Triad.

Against 4:I don't relate much to the 3 wing. I don't really relate much to the 2/1 growth/stress arrows.I only really relate to SP4.I hate wallowing in emotions and always try to get out of it even if hard.I don't want to be tragic or identify with my flaws.I do value authenticity but can struggle to be myself.I only relate a lot 1-2 defense mechanisms.I'm not reactive.

My core motivation in life is to be a person of strong noble character and to inspire goodness through principles and kindness. I want to do what is right and beneficial for both myself and others. My main fear is the belief that I may be, or become, fundamentally "bad"—meaning evil, immoral, incompetent,lacking or defective.Growing up, I strived to be as virtuous as possible, wanting to improve myself and the world. I believed I couldn't afford to make mistakes and that it was unacceptable to do so—especially moral ones. This created a deep need for a sense of control and a desire to avoid being judged as flawed. Consequently, this pressure leads to relentless self-criticism, anger, guilt, and shame

This is just a list of info which I'm giving incase anyone has some recommendations.

I'm pretty new to enneagram but I have a question regarding finding your exact type.
So of my knowledge the enneagram is about your core motives,fears and others structures that's drives your actions. I know it signals both your strengths and flaws but the only way to explain is that core type your "shadow self". Like is it the type you don't like or see negative traits in yourself of.

I'm mainly asking because when looking into the enneagram I can relate to every type in some ways but Type 1 stood out to me immediately. I wasn't necessarily embarrassed by it I just read it and thought that fit me perfectly. I actually took it as a compliment at first because It was the "moral/good" type and a healthy type 1 is what I strive to be like.My friends and family also typed me as 1.

While I did recognize flaws in type within me there was some other types I felt more embarrassed by or resonated with the negative traits more specifically type 4. I didn't think I would be a type 4 at all when I first read basic descriptions but when I researched more I did feel embarrassed by certain mechanisms or didn't like the type and wouldn't want to be like that because It showed some negative sides to me.I do relate to type 4 somewhat and I have met some really nice 4s so I don't have anything against that type but I do remember feeling called out by it in negative ways or when I'm my worst.

I know other factors like mbti,environment and etc may influence this but I'm curious is this normal thing.

Edit:
What I relate to for each type:
Type 1:I relate to their core motives/fears the most, Very driven by morality and perfectionism.I constantly feel the urge for control and to "fix" what's wrong.I'm a Critical person overall of both others and myself.I relate to their Defense Mechanism,Structures(Inner Critic,Reaction Formation).I'm very self controlled and try to keep myself in check always.I relate to both wings(2/9).I relate to both growth/stress patterns a lot.I only have gotten 1s on test.I constantly measure everything up to Ideal. My Ideal Self is primarily morality related.I can relate to the Gut Triad.

Against 1:I be slow to take action at times and can get stuck in my head.I'm a lot more empathetic and calm than some stereotypical behaviors.I only relate to SO and SP instinct not SX much.I can sometimes wallow when unhealthy.I often feel i'm not perfect or good enough to be a 1.

For 4:I'm do want to be significant and making an impact.I'm very hard on myself and self critical.I try to live up to an Ideal Self.I try to understand my Identity and make sure I know about it.Imaginative and can be escapist with fantasies of saving the world or doing something cool and great or getting attention.Image conscious.I can relate to feeling flawed or inferior. I can relate to the Heart Triad.

Against 4:I don't relate much to the 3 wing. I don't really relate much to the 2/1 growth/stress arrows.I only really relate to SP4.I hate wallowing in emotions and always try to get out of it even if hard.I don't want to be tragic or identify with my flaws.I do value authenticity but can struggle to be myself.I only relate a lot 1-2 defense mechanisms.I'm not reactive.

My core motivation in life is to be a person of strong noble character and to inspire goodness through principles and kindness. I want to do what is right and beneficial for both myself and others. My main fear is the belief that I may be, or become, fundamentally "bad"—meaning evil, immoral, incompetent,lacking or defective.Growing up, I strived to be as virtuous as possible, wanting to improve myself and the world. I believed I couldn't afford to make mistakes and that it was unacceptable to do so—especially moral ones. This created a deep need for a sense of control and a desire to avoid being judged as flawed. Consequently, this pressure leads to relentless self-criticism, anger, guilt, and shame

This is just a list of info which I'm giving incase anyone has some recommendations.