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I will tell a true story and then explain my thoughts.

Christian Relative A: Because you see, medical science says just rely on science, and not the holy spirit.

Christian Relative B nods their head.

My Thoughts: This was during a car ride. I sit and read a book as I overhear these two people here.

My only thought at the time was, how ironic. Lol. They do exactly the same thing just for the 'holy spirit'. My thing is, look at how many people are ill and can/ could be helped and/or have passed on, because they kept waiting and praying for the 'holy spirit' to heal them. Guess what, they were not healed and they passed away. That alone tells me all that I need to know. Even some christian people say, 'we need to apply some medicine with the spiritual'.

Because they know if they don't get said modern medicine, they may increase their chances of not making it.

Firstly, their god is semi-canonly a pedo. (The christians wanna say Mary is 12-14, also what's with some of them wanting her to be a child so bad? Some act like they want her to be a child, but that's another topic for another day.)

Second, he literally commands sexual assault, encourages slavery, baby killer etc and they present him 'loving'. So why are yall taking 'advice' from his followers who write his book. ( whether he is real or not.)

For example, I remember my family doing devotion quite some time ago, they spoke of Mark chapter 10, verses 1-16.

Verses eleven and twelve, as we know are often reasons why the stigma of divorce is exacerbated in christian spaces.

Mark 10:11 "And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her."

'Mark 10:12 "And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery."

In the case of just remarrying, they won't do anything to a man about that, they only allowed men to initiate divorces. The women were trapped, they had no autonomy at all. And in christian spaces these verses are often used to trap women and keep them miserable. Like religion has been doing for 2000+ years.

And that mess is another reason why they treat divorced WOMEN specifically as social pariahs. Bottomline is: So to their god divorce is wrong but he can murder babies and have people abused in many ways possible?

For context: there was this lady going on about how she feels as if folks who don't want to hear or talk about jesus, they are apparently fighting demons or her god bothers your supposed 'demons'. I immediately thought that maybe some folks don't because your book club gave them or exacerbated some emotional or mental health problems. Or because ultimately, some people are not going to believe in your cult ideology.

Heck, most people might be fighting emotional and psychological 'demons' (metaphorically) because of your religion, ma'am. The bottom line is that christians will invent any narrative to dodge anything. Le sigh.

Death: The major point being that a tortured demi-god guy was sacrificed by his father, the god of the story, for your salvation and to atone for the 'sins' of people on earth.

War: Yahweh is seemingly a projection of a warlord in that time period and area, on paper. In attempts to try and make warmongering divine. We all obviously know the whole OT is god-commanded genocide.

SA: Their veneration of the idea of a literal, more than likely, CHILD being SA'ed by their crazy deity and made to marry a grown male. And then they call her 'blessed among women.'

How is the idea of a child going through that traumatic mess a blessing?

The doctor may be a surgeon more specifically, the author is a guy I think. I cannot remember the title, yall. Lolz. The cover may have an armor clad hand, and most the cover has silver or Grey on it. I need assistance!

No, let's talk about it, because 1. Planting seeds (donating 100+ dollars to a church for prayers​, y'know, asking the lawwd for a house, bigger blessings I guess) feels as if the churches are scamming you to get more money outta you. (That's totally obvious for those who already know) That's one of the most normalized scams, man.

2. My personal thoughts on, the 'biblical standpoint', is that one of this view's major components is the phrase, "But did you ask god first?", this is said so much that people trapped in that doctrine will miss out on the biggest opportunities (e.g. Career) because they are so hooked on an ancient societal hierarchy rule-book. "Lean not on thy own understanding" does nothing but create or exacerbate self-sabotaging and/or self-doubt.

Because what do I look like taking parenting advice from someone who sacrificed their own child? (Or commanded others to do the same.) Also, it is still funny that an omnipotent being needs a sacrifice to do their work.

Christians know they need to get somewhere and sit down. Lol.

1 Peter 5:8-9 says, "Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that the family of believers throughout the world is undergoing the same kind of sufferings.”

1. The Devil or Satan is framed as the evil, however, when you look at it from a deconstructing lense, he doesn’t seem to be the only lion on the prowl to me.

2. When I was growing up, xian family around me said, "the devil has no power" or if the belief of god showed any signs of fallacy to me, it would turn into, "god allows the devil power" which leads me to three.

3. Ofcourse we as humans, when we do wrong, we need to hold ourselves and eachother accountable, why can't god do the same for himself? That is rhetorical.

4. Why is god, who is supposed to be the loving parent, giving supposed evil 'power?'

5. Logically, that means he is working with him. Source: the book of job.

Disclaimer: This is not me saying that hollywood is perfect, and something that can't be dangerous, especially for children. I am talking specifically about folks going on queerphobic rants because queer actors and actresses get casted on tv shows and movies. And they used kids as a smokescreen for their own bigotry.

I saw a post pertaining to Xians getting mad at lgbt people being seen by children, y'know existing as the people they are. And it reminded me of my christian relative who said, "Hollywood will corrupt your home and your children." ranting about moody teenagers and queer people on tv.

They basically said that people 'teach' queerness to children. That doesn’t make any sense. But do you know what you can teach children? Christianity. Y'all teach religion every sunday to children. Remember folks' mentions of sunday school? They have to make sure the children are nice and indoctrinated. Forcing the children to memorize their bible verses.

They are made to feel obligated to participate in that stuff the adults like. And the cycle continues.

This happened when I was a kid.

We were all in the living room, and one parent of mine was reading a book, and one of the male main characters went on some misogynistic tirade on how women should act like this in a relationship or what not, the female main character goes, "Okay." like shit is sweet. How I know what the book said is that my parent likes to read aloud everything to the other.

Y'know patriarchy and christianity (who are in cahoots) is like a bad drug, some people in my family can't stop chasing the high that it gives them. Whether it is fiction or not, wait it is all ficition. (Side note: my parent tends to read books by authors who have the same psuedo-conservative views, I say 'psuedo' because they aren't heavily strict and restrictive)

That day, my sister said in disgust that the way the fmc responded is so submissive and that it is odd. And our parent proceeds to tell her, "That's what the bible says, we are christians, meaning we are followers of christ!" I have never rolled my eyes so hard. I wanted to say, "Who is we?" However, I bit my tongue that day.

Ever wonder how does one send themselves in the form of their own son to save everyone from what they, themself, would do to everyone if they don't worship them? The older I get the more I realized how ridiculous everything about that bookclub is, Lolz. All jokes aside, that manipulative mess is so crazy.

It so gross and inhumane to me. I'm like, at the end of the day, that person is still a whole human-being.

Because when you are aware of patriarchy, historical context-wise, and present day wise, societal or systemic, you know why the disgruntled d worshipper crowd do and say the things that they do.

It starts from the milennia old male supremacist rhetoric that (and can be exacerbated by the man-made religion), female sexuality is evil (only when the woman desires it for herself). Historically, and even now, folks who say stuff like that, deep down inside they view women who have sex as 'giving away' their father or potential husband's 'property' away.

Peel away the basic shaming women for having sex, that is what it boils down to, especially the religious crowd.

Edit: It is also so dehumanizing.

He didn’t even think to send a locust after David, or a rapist in the situation of Deuteronomy 22, Tamar's brother etc., but if someone says your prophet is a bald-headed turd, you mad. Really? So inconsistent and inadequate.

First, I know many have already talked about this. Most ex-xians know that it teaches people that they are 'nothing' without that deity. Got it. Second, I just think at times, why would any sane person want to willingly and/or knowingly worship an evil like that? And it is so weird that many are or seem genuinely convinced that we will ALL bow before gawwd. I go, girl please. Who is 'we?' lol

I think, 'Oh really?' because according to christian i̶n̶d̶o̶c̶t̶r̶i̶n̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ doctrine if one does, they are gonna be supposedly punished for questioning god's 'word.' or daring to speak 'against' him. Leviticus 24:16 (I'd expect anyone with sense to speak against what that guy is doing) Also, the fairytale book is obviously illogical from the beginning, we can't all come from one specific pair of humans. I still can't believe that it took me this long to realize that it is all so ridiculous. You can't use critical thinking with that, because every last element within christianity will crumble when you put on a thinking cap.