u/NoConsequence9331

No hate towards him but sometimes i feel that he is kind of overrated (not visuals he is beautiful) but in terms of talent and his voice.

For me his voice was never a standout and i didn't even notice that, but sometimes people overreact a bit and act like he is the only one in kpop with a deep voice. And tbh in that aspect people should praise 3racha their producer unit who literally know how to utilise his voice otherwise felix won't be felix which people actually praises. Because other groups who have deep voices they are not as praised as felix. And why i said that because i saw a literal fanwar where his solos are saying "COOKING LIKE CHEF I AM A FIVE STAR MICHELIN" famous line of stray kids made what stray kids is.

I agree that line of felix made many people interested and if it was written by some other company appointed lyricist then many people might've ignored it but it was written by the member Han of 3racha keeping in his voice in mind so disregarding those members is something i never appreciate. And it also proves that they know how to utilise him.

Secondly, some fans argue that he is an all-rounder like he can write songs, he is a great dancer and also a good singer. Because they are his fans and wants to prove he doesn't need stray kids to remain relevant.

All the points mentioned is my opinion regarding felix why he is overrated as an all-rounder artist.

1.) his singing is just average good to listen but I actually don't prefer it when full song is in his voice (maybe i am not into deep voice)

2.) his rapping is good but tbh skz has prolific rappers han and changbin and in front of them he is doesn't stands out except his deep voice and visuals.

3.) his songwriting is also a bit average. Maybe skz producer unit has a big influence on other members which makes them write their own songs and few have written good songs too but i am not a big fan of his writings as well and the reason why is,

"It's that (ooh), it's that (ooh) beast mode, as Rengar calls it

Got trophies in the bag, 'cause of Stay, we lock in, yeah, yeah"

These are the lines of a song called truman, and as felix is a fan of LOL these references made the song not to my liking and felt the first half (written by him) a bit childish.

Maybe it's just me who is not into deep voices and sometimes when i see literal fanwars over this and how they disregard the whole group just to uplift him is a bit disrespectful towards the group and their hardwork. And the way they are constantly trying to project him as feminine and androgynous is also annoying.

Okay i agree felix is beautiful and he has a deep voice (although i never noticed his deep voice for me it's normal to have a deep voice but apart from that nothing else) but sometimes people just overglaze his voice like it is doing some sort of magic to them? Even if it is doing good work on them then they should thank their producing team for utilising his voice but his fans try to act like he is some sort of once in a lifetime talent, which he isn't.

He has many brand ambassadorships good for him, but why acting like it's their fans' achievements? Sometimes they make it a competition amongst idols, amongst their own groups as well.

They think he will have the most successful solo career if he leaves stray kids, maybe he could have because his stupid fans will listen to him but he can only remain relevant in the fashion world not in the musical world.

And another thing which irritates me the most is how people overglaze his angelic personality, if somebody is good by nature its all cool but when you make things repetitive and acts like nobody is as good as you, and it annoys me the most.

I am a stay but nowadays i feel not as enthusiastic as before because of the sub fandom toxicity. I started my journey as a solo stan maybe i still am, but i never had any hate towards him or any other members. But the fandom makes it impossible because just because he has more ambassadorships who gave them the right to mock the actually talented group members because of them stray kids are stray kids.

Having more instagram followers doesn't mean anything and that doesn't give you the right to mock any of the other idols or the group mates as well.

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I would’ve become a Stay back during the 'Thunderous' era if I’d actually explored them at the time.

I first saw them when I watched Yedam’s 'There’s Nothing Holding Me Back', and then Stray Kids cover of 'As If It’s Your Last'. If I’d looked into them a bit more then, I probably would’ve been a stay.

I only realized recently that I accidentally came across them back then, but I chose to ignore it. Years later, here I am as a Stay and I’ve decided to be one for life.

Has something like this happened to you? Where you had a chance encounter with them but didn’t bother to learn more about them at the time?