r/kpopharshopinions

Everywhere I see, people call Soyeon a great lyricist. But I really find most of the IDLE songs written by her as meaningless and even irritating to some extent.

I don't like her nasal tone either, but I do understand that it's subjective.

But her rap in 'tomboy' was really hyped, whereas I found it mostly nonsensical. I know what was the general theme of the song, and I support the theme, but lyrics wise it was meh.

Same with 'wife', people made it seem as some 'against the stereotype' and 'rebellious' song, and maybe it was. But again, the lyrics were very nonsensical to me, and made it impossible for me to listen to the song.

Like the title says. Every now and then some group releases a "bad" song which most of the general kpop fans don't like, and obviously, they express their opinion on social media because they have the right to.

Then the fans of the said group, attack the commentators because apparently everyone having a similar negative opinion of the song is "dogpiling" and "repetitive" and not the music artist's fault at all.

And on the other hand, if the artists get similar positive comments from general public for a particular song, these fans don't find it "repetitive"?

If I have to see one more video on the Jimin effect I'm going to lose it. It's literally just clips of men looking at Jimin normally and a caption like, "Omg he's so gay for our chimchim!" Be so fr. Not everyone is in love with Jimin. I feel bad for the men honestly. I don't want to normally look at a kpop idol and be called gay and I don't think those men want it either. Seriously armies, stop.

Recently, I feel like EDM songs keep being released by HYBE. I love EDM, and enjoy EDM, but it feels like every group's release sounds the same. Le Sserafim's “Celebrate”, ILLIT's “It's Me” and Katseye's “Pinky Up” I feel like this all happened ever since gnarly. HYBE probably saw the potential and the fame katseye got from the concept, and just decided to copy the same genre and give/distribute it all to the groups. Yes, Le Sserafim have had a similar sound already (their song crazy) but it just feels weird to me that TXT is the only group that sounds different in the latest comebacks of the HYBE groups. What do you guys think? Of course, no hate for the groups though since those are still bangers no matter what (esp “It's me” I don't understand why it gets hated on)

I feel like there's a lot of overhyped idols in the industry like these idols are good at their work but some k-pop fans will literally compare them to literal legends and will argue that they are better than them. Like girl be serious, how is 'A' from this group seriously better than Michael Jackson. Your artist doesn't even write or produce their own music and gives half ass performances on stage.

I just listened to Praise the Lord by Asap Rocky cause I wanted to check out Rhianna's husband and it sounded exactly like Fashion? I'm concerned, did they plagiarize or did they actually got legal rights and clearance like Ava Max does with the songs she's sampling? Just want to make sure I'm not stanning a plagiarist group. I tried looking it up on the internet but it seems they never actually released a statement regarding this? Can anyone confirm if everything is okay on the legal side? I'm hoping it's all legal since Asap Rocky doesn't seem to be saying anything otherwise, since he's Rhianna's husband and is quite popular himself, I feel like he would actually say something if it's plagiarism, right? Please tell me it's all legal 😭 why is Hybe not saying anything 😭

It feels so ridiculous whenever I see someone having the most childish takes or pitying their millionaire idols and then i go to their profiles and they are people in their 30's or 40's or something....

And i dont mean to say that you can't enjoy kpop when you're grown, im also grown! But dang, my frontal cortex has developed so im not gonna pretend that idols dont do this to make money and that they are really careful with their image bc of this reason.

That's the main goal of their managers too. PLEASE you are old enough to understand that if an idol asks for approval before posting something, it's not cause "boohoo mean label" it's simply bc they wanna make sure that whatever they post is brand and ambassadorship friendly.

Stays need to understand that when i.n sends something on A PUBLIC PLATFORM and he says "oh nooo dont share it, im shy" he is just doing it to feed parasocial and to do fanservice!

They need to understand that y'all being obnoxious AF about hyunjin wearing a ballet outfit, and yall had NOTHING to do what his final outfit of choice. He wore a prince outfit CAUSE HE WAS NEVER GOING TO WEAR AND ACTUAL TUTU be freaking for real ffs. "Have we seen the same episode?" yeah and he was just doing fan service please, grow up! I beg you! He was never going to wear a freaking tutu unless he wanted to 😭😭😭

Stays need to understand, or at least inform themselves, that certain positions open all the time in labels. And if you keep up with Div1 you'd see that your dumb truck did nothing. They did not fired anyone bc of that truck, that those positions are hiring all the freaking time and that they only thing they managed was to waste money and to cause drama within an already toxic fandom.

Disclaimer: I am just expressing frustration with the content/criticism of K-pop stans I see on MY side of the internet

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5–10 seconds of Boompala by Le Sserafim has been released, and a lot of people already don't seem to be enjoying it. I keep seeing comments about HYBE “ruining” their discography and that it doesn't sound good. At the same time, people are criticizing Whole Different Animal by Aespa - some of that is about G‑Dragon being featured (which, fair enough, if that’s your issue), but also the song itself.

Personally, I am excited for Boompala, and I like WDA. What stands out to me is that both of these songs seem a bit different from the “cutesy/Y2K” trend in K-pop right now.

I also constantly see some people complaining that groups all sound similar/have a similar aesthetic atm

So now I’m just confused; being experimental = bad, but sticking to similar concepts = also bad?

It honestly feels like no matter what direction a group takes, there’s going to be backlash. If they change, people say it’s off-brand or a bad idea. If they don’t change, people say it’s repetitive or boring. I don't understand it

When ITZY had their "loving yourself" concept, people got tired. With the comebacks after Sneakers...people have said, "I wish they stuck to their original concept/sound".

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Segwaying from music...During her hiatus, when Jeongyeon gained weight, there were so many backhanded comments about how she was “past her peak” or didn't look good with the extra weight. TWICE's Insta account posted a new reel of her dancing to “Fix a Drink,” and suddenly I’m seeing comments about how skinny she is.

"Overweight" = bad

"Skinny" = bad

Same with Liz...I remember she got a lot of hate for not being that skinny, and now that she is, people complain about how thin and unrecognizable she seems in IVE.

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On the internet, it is very hard not to generalize entire fandoms. But seeing so many contradictory criticisms feels so frustrating. Are fans ever actually happy with their idols, or is the criticism just amplified because it gets more engagement online?

Because it feels like idols can’t win no matter what they do 😶

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Edit: I'm not sure why I'm getting downvoted 😭 I'm sharing my personal experience on the internet

This may be random, but I just wanted to speak up about the 5th gen It girl arguments I've seen online, usually about whether Ahyeon, Wonhee, Ian, or Gehlee are the It girls.

Personally, I want Wonhee to be the It girl (imo) BUT it isn't decided yet, so why are we being comfortable labelling idols as the It girl and then fighting others when people label other girls as it girl?

It girl has lost its meaning. Kpop fans nowadays label It girl as “the prettiest/popular one” when It Girl has always been about Influence. I'm tired of the arguments of Monstiez (I think that's the fandom name) and Glitts (idk if that's the fandom name, cuz I'm js a casual fan of Illit) about Ahyeon/Wonhee being It Girl.

It's too early for us to say that someone is an It girl because 5th gen barely started. There's still new girl groups to debut, like Unchild recently debuting. New girl groups = more potential it girls. So labelling someone as an It girl so early is crazy. Like, I'm alright if you praise your idol, saying she's it girl because that's your opinion, but arguing about it to others is just not okay. Because let's accept that 5th gen hasn't ended yet, we still have to wait and see what happens next <33

I genuinely need some kpop stans to understand the difference between a harmless association and pure saturation.

Nobody is saying “you can NEVER think of Minsung when you see pink and green.” The issue is that some shippers have repeated the exact same association so many times that it became painfully predictable. Every pink and green object, outfit, edit, interaction or random duo somehow turns into “MINSUNG 🩷💚😱”. After YEARS of this, people are obviously gonna get tired of it.

And what makes it even more annoying is how aggressive people get when someone points this out. The second you say “this joke is getting repetitive,” people start insulting you, calling you miserable, bitter, jobless, telling you to “go outside” or acting like you committed a crime for being tired of an overused fandom joke.

Then they start playing dumb:
“so wicked/mitsuri/fairly oddparents comparisons are okay but minsung isn’t???”

The difference is VARIETY. Those are broader pop culture/aesthetic references. People don’t spam them under every single pink and green thing on earth for years straight. Minsung became the most automatic and repetitive response possible to those colors specifically because shippers forced the association into literally every context imaginable.

That’s why people are tired of it. Not because “pink and green belongs to minsung” or whatever dramatic argument shippers keep making up. The problem is saturation, repetition and the fact some fans can’t handle hearing that without taking it as a personal attack.

just made a full video on this — she left YG without a solo extension, built LLOUD with full master ownership, signed with celine bulgari and nike globally, debuted top 10 on billboard 200 as an independent artist, and starred in white lotus

all before 28. the RCA deal alone is something taylor swift has been fighting for publicly for years

https://youtu.be/WFC\_e6QfoUM

what do you think her smartest business move was?

Yeah the music is pure garbage, Kateyes cb everyone agree is terrible, well for it defense the only good part is the choreography, ILLIT cb is Kateyes recycle garbage and Cortis latest release is just terrible the instrumental sucks so bad it look like they were trying to do rage typa music but without any effort like the voice mixing /autotune is so bad the instrumental is a pure mess, Lesserafim new cb, (I luv lsfm) i'm so sad but it not good at all, even bnd (i'm a onedoor) what happen they suddenly started to release colorless bland ahh music whyyyy like i'm so disappointed coming from the biggest compagny in kpop yet their music is worse than any nugu new release...

Je résume principalement ce que dit le film K-pop Demon Hunter :

Une idole peu manger ce qu’elle veux quand elle veux, surtout avant les concerts

Une idole est presque tout le temps en repos

Une idole écrit elle-même les paroles de ces musiques .

Si une idole ce sent mal avant un concert, elle n'est pas obligé de le faire.

Tout le monde aime les idoles de K-pop

C’est simple d'être connu.

Les managers sont tellement sympa et souriants

On gagne beaucoup d'argent

Littéralement tout l'inverse du métier. On oublie toute la période de trainee, la difficulté de ce faire prendre dans une agence puis ce faire connaître, les régimes intensifs, la pression constante... C'est un scandale !!

Je suis désolé mais la plupart des idoles sont adultes, elles font ce qu'elles veulent !!

Il y a plusieurs camps de fans toxiques :

Les premiers sont ceux qui critique et boycotte l'idole dès qu'il y a des rumeurs de couple parce que soient disant elle n’a pas le droit, c’est un manque de respect envers les fans, etc (les même qui font un scandale parce que leur bias ne les regarde pas assez a travers une foule de 20000 personnes)

Les deuxième sont ceux qui ne soutiennent pas l'idole mais qui font tout pour trouver des indices pour prouver qu'il sont ensemble (ce sont rendus au même endroit un peut près au même moment), tout ça jusqu'à modifier des photos grâce a l’IA juste pour faire croire qu'il ont des bracelets assortis.

Et puis certaines fois, ça dégénère tellement que l'agence est obligé de nier ou de dire la vérité, ce qui m'amène au 3e camps :

Ceux qui croient que si l'agence ne s'exprime pas alors qu'on est en pleine rumeur, c'est forcément parce que les deux sont en couple.

Mais purée ! Laissez les tranquilles ! Ils ont le droit d'avoir une vie privée...

Edit : je ne parle pas des shippings parce que c'est une forme de marketing, je parle de rumeurs de couple infondées.