"They just debuted they have time to improve"
DEBUTING MEANS YOU'RE COMPLETELY READY AND HAVE BEEN SUFFICIENTLY TRAINED TO NOT SOUND LIKE A GOAT AND LOOK LIKE FIDDLESTICKS WHEN YOU DANCE!
AND HONESTLY? Points at the pic
For a group that’s supposedly rap focused, they haven't even figured out how to project their voices properly when rapping. I’m fluent in Korean, and I couldn’t make out a single word Martin and Juhoon said in their verses. They’re out here mumble rapping in 2026 while sounding out of breath for no reason. Seonghyeon's voice also sounds shaky like my 85 year old gramps, no exaggeration.
The choreography isn’t that demanding and they’re clearly not going all out. Yet they sound so busy catching their breath while rapping and practically sing-talking their way through the entire song. One phrase, they’re practically whispering, and the next, they’re at volume ten. Their breath control and rap delivery need work.
On a side note, this is my first time reading the full lyrics to this song. I thought YCC and REDRED had brainrot lyrics, but this takes the cake. Then again, who am I to say all this? They’re one of the most popular groups right now, and as you can see in the video, the fangirls are absolutely infatuated with them. I guess my music taste is just worlds apart from what’s trendy these days.
le sserafim arguably has a really good discography but man do their vocals suck. so many of their songs have good production but they just can't deliver when it comes to singing.
i hate how monotone and whisper singing has become rampant. and i know this became the standard because most idols who debut these days can't hold a damn note.
edit: please don't comment about live performances (it's only natural for idols to be unstable bc they're also dancing and i get that) (also ik some idols can also have good live singing skills but they're rare and few) (my post is about how songs produced inside the studio with good instrumentals becomes wasted bc they are given to bad singers)
disclaimer before reading: i’m being very careful with my wording here because i know how fast people jump to conclusions when an opinion doesn't align with their fandom narrative. this is a critique of company strategy and industry management not an attack on any idol. if objective facts about promotion disparities feel like a personal attack to you, this post isn't for you.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately, and it honestly frustrates me how BigHit is handling TXT as a group. First off, asking for equal opportunities across all 5 members is NOT about taking anything away from anyone, and it’s definitely not about "jealousy" or "hating" a specific member. It’s about wanting the entire group to succeed and reach their full potential. But right now, the blatant favoritism and uneven distribution of solo opportunities are holding TXT back from competing at the level they should be.
Brands and fashion houses naturally reach out to whoever already has the most exposure. When the company consistently prioritizes one member with early solo IG accounts, early solo schedules, full solo promo cycles, brand deals, and festival stages, of course external opportunities will keep rolling in for that same person. Meanwhile, crumbs like a random OST, a single magazine photoshoot or a one-off variety appearance once in a blue moon for the other members are treated by some fans as "fair treatment" An OST or a photoshoot every few years is not the same as full solo promotions, and acting like it is is just pure denial.
Also, the excuse that the other members are "fine with their situation" or "just don't want solo deals" is such a cop-out. They are professionals, they’re not going to go on Weverse or interviews and publicly air out their grievances with their agency. They support each other, sure, but supporting a groupmate doesn't mean they don't also want their own platforms to grow.
The biggest issue here is how this affects TXT as a whole. While minor activities for other members never interfere with group schedules, major solo pushes constantly overlap with or exploit the group’s momentum. By dumping all marketing resources into pushing one specific push while neglecting equal exposure for the rest, BigHit is actively turning away potential fans who want to stan a balanced 5-member group.
TXT has so much talent across all five members, but BigHit is sabotaging the group's full potential and wasting the other members' time. Calling out company mismanagement isn't "solo stan behavior" it's caring about the group's future.
Deleted Top 10 of vocalists because formatting was doing something funky and wouldn’t budge so I figured I’d just incorporate it into this.
These 10 are groups I think have an unskippable discography, have awesome voices, and have super engaging performances. Just god-tier groups.
NCT DREAM
They have got to be my top group. Their vocals just eat in every song(Hello Future, Broken Melodies), and 😮💨do their performances cook. Words cant describe how much I love their discography.
Super Junior
I LOVE their music. They rank second solely because of Miracle and Bonamana(and other music obv). But holy, their stages are so fun to watch and their choreos are usually so funky and fun to do. Overall 10/10 group.
ONEUS
Kings of concept. They have just the most gorgeous concepts(Baila Conmigo hello), which all the members pull of beautifully. I love their discography, vocals and performances. Truly kings
Babymonster
I don’t think i’ve disliked a single song by them honestly. They just have such a top tier discography. I do also really enjoy their stages, I love the energy they give!
NCT 127
Ofc if we have Dream, we have to have 127. They have such a funky strange discography that I actually love it. Like SIGN ME UP for a Sticker performance🫡
Tempest
Underrated kings. Their music is so fun and peppy that it just brightens your day. Their performances always radiate the jolly and joyful vibes that we all love to see
Monsta X
Do I even need to state why. Kings.
Seventeen
I LOVE how happy and peppy sounding their music is, and how they act out performances. For 13 members, they pull of choreos so beautifully, and they all have such pleasant voices. And great discography.
IVE
My queens. They don’t have a single bad song and so just love their performances. They’re so fun to watch on stage!!
ITZY
I just love this group. All the members have such engaging stage presences, and their songs are chef’s kiss.
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If I see an idol who doesn't seem even remotely interested in improving their skills, whether it be singing or dancing despite being incredibly lacking in those areas, I can't help but question their work ethic and professionalism.
I've seen plenty of idols who were heavily scrutinized early in their careers but gradually improved through consistent practice and taking lessons whenever they could find the time. That's something I really respect. On the contrary, when an idol is constantly criticized for their lack of skill and doesn't seem to make any real effort to improve for multiple years, that's when I start to lose respect for them.
Like I love me some idle but I genuinely can't see any noticeable improvement in Shuhua's singing since debut. She still has the same flaws and everything and she's entering year 9 of her career in just a few months. To me, that shows that she has no interest in in improving herself as a performer and putting in the effort for the fans who continue to support her.
I hate it, but it’s completely true. a lot of people within spaces don’t even respect it as a genre. K-pop to non listeners is a plastic genre. I hate that rock, rap and alt fans also have a superiority complex over kpop listeners.
grls is so lackluster. the rest of the songs on the ep aren’t bad but they’re not that good either. the bar is so low. idk why people say sun kiss is one of the best debuts just because it’s easy listening.
Unless the performance happens under a big red "LIPSYNCING" sign, lipsync is always dishonest.
There has been a weird shift in the discourse with some stans trying to split hairs among different forms of lipsync. I could go on about who is saying what and why during what but I'll keep this brief.
According to them just playing the studio track while the performers mime the lyrics is relatively honest. While the practice of using "prerecorded live vocals," or even just pitch correction and backtrack, is truly immoral and meant to trick the audience.
But no.
Lipsync is always dishonest unless admitted, and it is never admitted. The company PR calls it live, the stans call it live, the idols are careful to keep the mics to their lips and look flustered when they fail to do so.
The trick is still there, just in the form of "OMG they sound just like their recordings."
Besides, performing with backtrack and pitch correction is way tougher than lipsync to pull off, so the narrative is probably just cope from stans of groups that do the latter..
I have been a kpop fan for over 10 years. And in that time I’ve watched so many idols pass away because of mental health struggles. But it seems like no matter how many idols pass people keep on bullying and dragging idols for things that may or may not be that big of a deal.
I am not here to police anyone on how they feel. You are entitled to your feelings towards these people. But I do feel like you shouldn’t speak death or ill will towards people who genuinely don’t know you personally.
I also want to ask people who do slander and bully idols, Why? Why do you feel so comfortable being mean to people?