Suppose if my US flatmate was from Amazon, would he have told me about this?

I tried to move internally in Amazon Bellevue US and was on L1 visa. I wanted to move to a managerial role to get EB1C as H1B lottery is evasive. I spent 5 years at Amazon in India.

However, my next hiring manager (new to Amazon) told that he would collect feedback from current manager and I thought that he will only ask if I was on some focus plan (which makes me ineligible to switch). But my current manager gave negative feedback and the hiring manager decided not to take me.

After all this, my current manager decided to FOCUS me due to 'poor performance'(in his words). Later I came to know that every manager has a fixed firing quota/stack ranking and they generally fire employees who are unable to hide their plan about switching team.

Nobody shared these hidden processes with me.

But what should one do if they are unable to find decent flatmates in a short time (for example, COVID time). Or if someone has purchased their own apartment? I came here in Jan 2022 and it was very difficult to find flatmate at that time

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 10 hours ago
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Blatant nepotism among various groups of Indians in Amazon

Unfortunately, for a North Indian gay man, there is no place where I can relate to. I am too western/LGBTQ for my Asian colleagues and too Indian for my white colleagues.

I have worked in industry a few years and have plenty of Indian Telugu “friends in FAANG”* so I can speak on this. You are totally correct in that there is blatant nepotism among the various groups of Indians in tech. They have created a nepotist monopoly among every large and small tech company they become a part of.

They will only train, promote, and hire those belonging to their group (Tamil/Telugu/Chinese) and see those not a part of it as strangers that cannot be trusted. These groups of people are very tight knit populations and see other people in it as brothers and sisters. If they were to choose a candidate to hire and they chose a person not in their group over someone who is, they will be shamed by their family and community.

It is a terrible system for US natives to have to deal with. I am Indian too, North Indian though. We don't have anyone who favors us as usually its South Indians or other Indians from a specific caste/ language group.

Many of us do bring specialized skillsets to US and work hard, paying a lot of taxes and following law religiously. I think what is needed is a stricter HR and tech labor regulation to curb nepotism, favoritism and bias

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u/AlastairMac1964 — 9 hours ago

Blatant nepotism among various groups of Indians in tech

Unfortunately, for a North Indian gay man, there is no place where I can relate to. I am too western/LGBTQ for my Asian colleagues and too Indian for my white colleagues.

I have worked in industry a few years and have plenty of Indian Telugu “friends in FAANG”* so I can speak on this. You are totally correct in that there is blatant nepotism among the various groups of Indians in tech. They have created a nepotist monopoly among every large and small tech company they become a part of.

They will only train, promote, and hire those belonging to their group (Tamil/Telugu/Chinese) and see those not a part of it as strangers that cannot be trusted. These groups of people are very tight knit populations and see other people in it as brothers and sisters. If they were to choose a candidate to hire and they chose a person not in their group over someone who is, they will be shamed by their family and community.

It is a terrible system for US natives to have to deal with. I am Indian too, North Indian though. We don't have anyone who favors us as usually its South Indians or other Indians from a specific caste/ language group.

Many of us do bring specialized skillsets to US and work hard, paying a lot of taxes and following law religiously. I think what is needed is a stricter HR and tech labor regulation to curb nepotism, favoritism and bias

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 10 hours ago

Suppose if my Bellevue flatmate was from Amazon , would he have told me about this?

I tried to move internally in Amazon Bellevue. I wanted to move to a managerial role. I spent 5 years at Amazon in another country.

However, my next hiring manager (new to Amazon) told that he would collect feedback from current manager and I thought that he will only ask if I was on some focus plan (which makes me ineligible to switch). But my current manager gave negative feedback and the hiring manager decided not to take me. After all this, my current manager decided to FOCUS me due to 'poor performance'(in his words).

Later I came to know that every manager has a fixed firing quota/stack ranking and they generally fire employees who are unable to hide their plan about switching team. Nobody shared these hidden processes with me.

Also, staying with a flatmate from Amazon would have helped? would he have told me about this?

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 11 hours ago

Suppose if my flatmate was from Amazon, would he have told me about this?

I tried to move internally in Amazon US and was on L1 visa. I wanted to move to a managerial role to get EB1C as H1B lottery is evasive. I spent 5 years at Amazon in another country.

However, my next hiring manager (new to Amazon) told that he would collect feedback from current manager and I thought that he will only ask if I was on some focus plan (which makes me ineligible to switch). But my current manager gave negative feedback and the hiring manager decided not to take me.

After all this, my current manager decided to FOCUS me due to 'poor performance'(in his words). Later I came to know that every manager has a fixed firing quota/stack ranking and they generally fire employees who are unable to hide their plan about switching team.

Nobody shared these hidden processes with me.

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 11 hours ago

Does living with a flatmate prevents depression in Bellevue?

I work in the tech industry at Seattle (Bellevue downtown) and came here during COVID. At that time, I couldn't get any flatmate and thus, I started living alone in a small studio. Also, is it better to live far from office if flatmate wants and then commute daily?

I came here in Jan 2022 and it was very difficult to find flatmate at that time

Does living with a flatmate prevents depression?

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 14 hours ago

Does living with a flatmate prevents depression?

I work in tech and came here during COVID. At that time, I couldn't get any flatmate and thus, I started living alone in a studio. Also, is it better to live far from office if flatmate wants and then commute daily?

Does living with a flatmate prevents depression?

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 1 day ago

Does living with a flatmate prevents depression?

I work in tech and came here during COVID. At that time, I couldn't get any flatmate and thus, I started living alone in a studio. Also, is it better to live far from office if flatmate wants and then commute daily?

Does living with a flatmate prevents depression?

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 1 day ago

Does living with a flatmate prevents depression?

I work in tech and came here during COVID. At that time, I couldn't get any flatmate and thus, I started living alone in a studio. Also, is it better to live far from office if flatmate wants and then commute daily?

Does living with a flatmate prevents depression?

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 1 day ago

Does living with a flatmate prevents depression in Seattle?

I work in the tech industry at Seattle (Bellevue downtown) and came here during COVID. At that time, I couldn't get any flatmate and thus, I started living alone in a studio. Also, is it better to live far from office if flatmate wants and then commute daily?

Does living with a flatmate prevents depression?

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 1 day ago

If I wish to visit the house of a friend, its very important to use the word "hangout" while requesting it, right?

Suppose if I meet an Indian male colleague and we have beer after work once. Then, next time, If I wish to visit the house of a friend, its very important to use the word "hangout" while requesting it, right? I am Indian too

Is it better to say "can I come to your place to hangout on weekend" rather than "can I come to your house?"

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 1 day ago

Suppose if my flatmate was from Amazon, would he have told me about this?

I tried to move internally in Amazon Bellevue and was on L1 visa. I wanted to move to a managerial role to get EB1C as H1B lottery is evasive. I spent 5 years at Amazon in another country.

However, my next hiring manager (new to Amazon) told that he would collect feedback from current manager and I thought that he will only ask if I was on some focus plan (which makes me ineligible to switch). But my current manager gave negative feedback and the hiring manager decided not to take me.

After all this, my current manager decided to FOCUS me due to 'poor performance'(in his words). Later I came to know that every manager has a fixed firing quota/stack ranking and they generally fire employees who are unable to hide their plan about switching team.

Nobody shared these hidden processes with me. I had spent 5 years at Amazon in another country, but nobody told me about this.

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 2 days ago

Why do single people in tech in Silicon Valley always live with flatmates?

Why do single people in tech in Silicon Valley always live with flatmates?

Is it always better to find a flat-sharing person for psychological reasons, even when its difficult?

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 2 days ago

How should a new employee know these processes before its too late?

I tried to move internally in Amazon Bellevue and was on L1 visa. I wanted to move to a managerial role to get EB1C as H1B lottery is evasive. I spent 5 years at Amazon in another country. However, my next hiring manager (new to Amazon) told that he would collect feedback from current manager and I thought that he will only ask if I was on some focus plan (which makes me ineligible to switch).

But my current manager gave negative feedback and the hiring manager decided not to take me. After all this, my current manager decided to PIP me due to 'poor performance'(in his words). Later I came to know that every manager has a fixed firing quota/stack ranking and they generally fire employees who are unable to hide their plan about switching team.

I wish to make colleague friends that share these hidden processes with me. I had spent 5 years at Amazon in another country, but nobody told me about this.

Hidden process is that : If a hiring manager says they will collect feedback from current manager before making the final decision, tell them 'not interested'.If current manager comes to know about intent to move and next manager changes their mind, then PIP is almost 100% sure.

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 6 days ago

How should a new employee know these processes before its too late?

I tried to move internally in Amazon Bellevue and was on L1 visa. I wanted to move to a managerial role to get EB1C as H1B lottery is evasive. I spent 5 years at Amazon in another country.

However, my next hiring manager (new to Amazon) told that he would collect feedback from current manager and I thought that he will only ask if I was on some focus plan (which makes me ineligible to switch). But my current manager gave negative feedback and the hiring manager decided not to take me.

After all this, my current manager decided to FOCUS me due to 'poor performance'(in his words). Later I came to know that every manager has a fixed firing quota/stack ranking and they generally fire employees who are unable to hide their plan about switching team.

I wish to make colleague friends that share these hidden processes with me. I had spent 5 years at Amazon in another country, but nobody told me about this.

Hidden process is that :

If a hiring manager says they will collect feedback from current manager before making the final decision, tell them 'not interested'.

If current manager comes to know about intent to move and next manager changes their mind, then FOCUS is almost 100% sure

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 6 days ago

How should a new employee know these processes before its too late?

I tried to move internally in Amazon Bellevue and was on L1 visa. I wanted to move to a managerial role to get EB1C as H1B lottery is evasive.

However, my next hiring manager told that he would collect feedback from current manager and I thought that he will ask if I was on some PIP plan (which makes me ineligible to switch). But my current manager gave negative feedback and the next manager decided not to take me.

After all this, my current manager decided to PIP me due to 'poor performance'(in his words). Later I came to know that every manager has a fixed firing quota/stack ranking and they generally fire employees who are unable to hide their plan about switching team.

I wish to make colleague friends that share these hidden processes with me.

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 6 days ago

Suppose if I dont drink, can I say "Kya main tumhare ghar par daru peene aa sakta hu" to hangout?

I don't drink but wish to establish connections fast.

Suppose if i meet another male Indian colleague in Amazon US (I am male and Indian) can I ask him : "Kya main tumhare ghar par aa sakta hu?" and later on I can tell him that I dont drink and I lied to hangout.

I am a straight guy and want to make friends

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 6 days ago

Suppose if I dont drink, can I say "Kya main tumhare ghar par daru peene aa sakta hu" to hangout?

I don't drink but wish to establish connections fast.

Suppose if i meet another male Indian colleague in Amazon (I am male and Indian) can I ask him : "Kya main tumhare ghar par aa sakta hu?" and later on I can tell him that I dont drink and I lied to hangout.

I am a straight guy and want to make friends

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 6 days ago

Suppose if I dont drink, can I say "Kya main tumhare ghar par daru peene aa sakta hu" to hangout?

I don't drink but wish to establish connections fast.

Suppose if i meet another male Indian colleague in US office (I am male and Indian) can I ask him : "Kya main tumhare ghar par aa sakta hu?" and later on I can tell him that I dont drink and I lied to hangout.

I am a straight guy and want to make friends

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u/Opening_Yam_3800 — 6 days ago