u/Otherwise-Living-505

As a young man, I am frustrated with my dating experiences with young women and I find myself becoming highly susceptible to online incel culture. I don’t know how to get out of this mindset. It’s draining. Any tips?

Just my experience. I don’t hate any group of people.

I am a 20 year old sophomore in college. About 6’1 with a muscular and athletic frame and a decent (in my opinion) face. I got some attention from the opposite gender in highschool. I had only a slight bearing on my full potential at the time in terms of looks. At my worst, I was a semi chubby 230 with a frizzy mullet and a pizza face. I was frustrated with dating at the time, my first talking stage (I have NEVER had a commited girlfriend) discarded me after six months because 1: she found a better looking version of me, and 2: I moved WAY too slowly and didn’t make the move fast enough because I didn’t know how.

The summer after I left high school, I realized I needed to look better to be worthy of love from the women I wanted. I lost a decent amount of weight, got dermal fillers and fixed my skin, and changed my haircut. For once, I was able to win over at least some attention from these girls. I was egged on by friends and then left by a girl at the end of the summer, but I was going somewhere and at least interacting again. I had my first kiss my freshman year with a girl I thought I was getting along great and getting emotional with, and then she ghosted me the next morning after we made out. The next girl had me competing with 2 other men in the month long talking stage we had where I spent the boyfriend level time with her but left her because she couldn’t give up the guy she told me not to worry about (she cheated on her next boyfriend with him). I had emotional investment in her. A different girl after that mentioned her roster a multiplicity of times trying to make me jealous and then send me a text about how she got creampied by another guy after I politely communicated to her that I couldn’t emotionally bear long distance.

Now, I am with a girl that treats me like a human dildo and attempts to play jealousy games on me with all of her social media suitors, who has no interest in any connection or emotional investment that I am craving but never had.

7 sexual partners after I started looking better, none of which made girlfriend stage. I started putting intense obsessive effort into my looks because of toxic blackpill content, and I succeeded only partially. I’ve only been exclusively used for sex and attention by Gen Z women, and I’m very disenfranchised in my beliefs about them. I don’t want to believe these toxic ideas, like the “Hypergamy” stereotype or the notion that women love cheating to humiliate their partner. I see this constant egotism and instant gratification in every partner I’ve had as a result of the constant stream of admirers on social media.

This mindset and view on dating and women in my generation is draining, and I don’t want to believe it or its implications, but my real world experiences have never supported anything else. I don’t know what to do about it.

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u/Otherwise-Living-505 — 2 days ago

As a young man, I am frustrated with my dating experiences with young women and I find myself becoming highly susceptible to online incel culture. I don’t know how to get out of this mindset. It’s draining. Any tips?

Just my experience. I don’t hate any group of people.

I am a 20 year old sophomore in college. About 6’1 with a muscular and athletic frame and a decent (in my opinion) face. I got some attention from the opposite gender in highschool. I had only a slight bearing on my full potential at the time in terms of looks. At my worst, I was a semi chubby 230 with a frizzy mullet and a pizza face. I was frustrated with dating at the time, my first talking stage (I have NEVER had a commited girlfriend) discarded me after six months because 1: she found a better looking version of me, and 2: I moved WAY too slowly and didn’t make the move fast enough because I didn’t know how.

The summer after I left high school, I realized I needed to look better to be worthy of love from the women I wanted. I lost a decent amount of weight, got dermal fillers and fixed my skin, and changed my haircut. For once, I was able to win over at least some attention from these girls. I was egged on by friends and then left by a girl at the end of the summer, but I was going somewhere and at least interacting again. I had my first kiss my freshman year with a girl I thought I was getting along great and getting emotional with, and then she ghosted me the next morning after we made out. The next girl had me competing with 2 other men in the month long talking stage we had where I spent the boyfriend level time with her but left her because she couldn’t give up the guy she told me not to worry about (she cheated on her next boyfriend with him). I had emotional investment in her. A different girl after that mentioned her roster a multiplicity of times trying to make me jealous and then send me a text about how she got creampied by another guy after I politely communicated to her that I couldn’t emotionally bear long distance.

Now, I am with a girl that treats me like a human dildo and attempts to play jealousy games on me with all of her social media suitors, who has no interest in any connection or emotional investment that I am craving but never had.

7 sexual partners after I started looking better, none of which made girlfriend stage. I started putting intense obsessive effort into my looks because of toxic blackpill content, and I succeeded only partially. I’ve only been exclusively used for sex and attention by Gen Z women, and I’m very disenfranchised in my beliefs about them. I don’t want to believe these toxic ideas, like the “Hypergamy” stereotype or the notion that women love cheating to humiliate their partner. I see this constant egotism and instant gratification in every partner I’ve had as a result of the constant stream of admirers on social media.

This mindset and view on dating and women in my generation is draining, and I don’t want to believe it or its implications, but my real world experiences have never supported anything else. I don’t know what to do about it.

reddit.com
u/Otherwise-Living-505 — 2 days ago