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The "I was waiting for Joyboy" excuse was for his subordinates like King to not realise that their captain was a fraud.

- He could have went anytime at Marineford and challenge Akainu himself or even all the Admirals but he knew he would get folded in less than a minute

- "But Kaido is stonger than all the Holy Knights and the Gorosei together" Then why didn't he go to the Holy Land to fight Shamrock Garling and the Gorosei ?

- Why didn't he challenge another powerfull Yonko like Shanks or just straight up invade his territory?

- Why didn't he challenge to a duel Mihawk, the world strongest swordsman or even the whole Revolutionary Army ?

At last , if he wanted death that bad and a legendary battle and traveled all the way up to Skypiea to find a place to die , why didn't he travel to Elbaf to fight Loki , the monster ancient giant mythical dragon who was rampaging on seas years ago ? The answer is simple : Cause he knew he didn't stand a chance and would get embarrassed and obliterated to pieces worse that HK Harald did.

Its all fun and games until these 2 goats , beat the shi out of Imu or at least manage to hold him back and send him back to where he came from

The agenda piece needs to go down once and for all.

Most op characters who have more experience, better techniques, power , speed and endurance like Shunshui, Unohana , Kisuke , Zaraki etc will beat him with their own Bankais or Shikais before his bankai fully unlocks.

I'm not trynna spread hate on Toshiro and his fans but when they try to scale him , do they assume he can just pop his true bankai from the start and call it a day ? Do they only scale his strongest possible form and completely ignore how his powers work and the flaw of his Bankai ?

Tell me if im really tripping cause I genuinely think the same Zaraki who defeated 3 sternritters at once back in the 1st invasion could also dogwalk a Bankai Hitsugaya , giving him no chance to transform.

The only way I can understand it is if they talking about the future (100-500 years ) where he will most likely have complete control of his true bankai cause if we are being realistic , adult Toshiro doesn't even exist in a 1v1 battle right now. The only reason he was able to transform against Gerard was because he was hiding and let Byakuya cover him and it took a lot of time.

I just want to see Shanks glazers cope in the comments

My Top 10

1. Imu

2. Dragon

3. Mihawk & Shanks

4. Akainu

5. Loki & Luffy

6. Blackbeard

7. Kuzan & all the Admirals

8. Shamrock , Garling & the Gorosei

9. Gaban , Rayleigh & Garp

10. Zoro & Sanji

Honorable Mentions : Law , Kid , Sabo , Yamato , Katakuri , Doffy & Boa Hancock.

The Holy Knights and Figarland agendas can't take another loss.

I don't think Shanks has reached the levels of Prime Whitebeard/Roger/Rocks yet. I want to see more from him and the fact he appears every 400 chapters to do absolutely nothing doesn't help either.

Same thing with BB. His last showing against Law wasn't that convincing for a guy who calls himself the world's strongest man and has 2 devil fruits. A Post Time skip Yonko Blackbeard didn't want the smoke with Old Rayleigh and was shiting his pants the moment Kuzan froze his crew. If he dont show me that he can box with actual Top tiers in the story im not putting him above monsters like Big Mom and Kaido. I mean the dude ain't even a confirmed Conquerors Haki user .

"Yeah but he's a Zoan type and zoan types have some kind of healing abilities and regeneration "

No, I'm talking about him tanking and surviving lethal blows that would normally kill him. A perfect example are the Holy Knights that can get stabbed and receive fatal wounds or get their limbs cut off and still survive .

I personally have her above all the Visoreds and the new Gotei 13 captains. I also have her above Rukia , Komamura and Soi Fon . Mayuri is a weird one cause with prep time hes one of the strongest gotei but the fact that Youichi is much faster and she doesn't use a zanpakuto gives her the advantage. I'd say against Byakuya it can go either way cause she can match his speed but probably Byakuya would take it. It all depends if Yourichi can land a clean Shunko hit at him .

Before any of you say "but hes 21 and she's 16" im talking about the future.

I can already see the tears of Yamamoto haters who think they are smart and can powerscale when they have to put this man back to the Top 2 conversations after not even including him in their Top 5 and even Top 10.

As for Unohana , I really hope she gets all the love and chance to shine in the Hell arc. I honestly believe that Kubo killed her early and never gave her a real battle against an actual enemy , cause he has big plans for her in the Hell arc. Yama and her are 2 of my favourite captains and im tired of the downplay and disrespect they get from "Bleach fans" who know nothing about their characters and their strength especially Unohana.

This is all speculation of course but im really confident that these 2 will have a significant role in the future. I finally want to see these 2 go all out in a battle without holding back or healing the enemy or getting tricked or the enemy using dirty tricks and tactics to defeat you.

( Toshiro fans are really in shambles. They thought this dude would surpass Yamamoto in 100 years , when in reality they only guy he will surpass in 100 years is maybe Shunshui. He will need another 1000 years to be on the levels of the 2 Kenpachis and Yamamoto )

I wouldn't mind it tbh. Fleet Admiral and one of the final antagonists for a reason. Unless the power of friendship or the talk no jutsu makes him team up with Luffy lmao.

Give him 3 devil fruits or he'll retire. No , give him 5 devil fruits and make him steal Imus powers as well for him to have a chance against Luffy ( Luffy will retire him so it doesn't even matter )

How can you have one of the greatest attacking and destructive devil fruits , the same df Whitebeard was said to be able to destroy the world , and with the same devil fruit you cant even knock out Trafalgar Law ???

Blackbeard acting all tough when hes facing someone like Law , Ace and Koby but when its time to face against someone who can ONE-SHOT you like Loki , Shanks , Akainu , Kuzan and even Old Whitebeard and Rayleigh then its time to run and rethink your actions

From the things we seen so far I have Blackbeard barely in my Top 10 strongest alive. Imu Dragon Mihawk Shanks Akainu Loki Luffy and maybe even Kuzan and Shamrock are all stronger than him. Thats considering he didn't get any stronger or acquired some new bullshit power he haven't seen since Egghead. Because the last time we saw him in a fight , his haki was also pretty much non-existent. No conquerors/adv cnc feats and 0 observation skills and feats . Only basic armament haki

Of-Screen Blackbeard is another story though...

Are the current Knights we seen so far ( Gunko , Shamrock, Killingham & Sommers ) the strongest of their group ? Are the remaining 5-6 Knights actually weaker and will be fodder for the revolutionary army commanders ?

My personal opinion and headcannon is that all the other God Knights that we haven't seen except maybe 1 or 2 are weaker or not as strong as the ones that are in Elbaph right now. The reason I believe this is cause after the crew defeats them here in Elbaf , I dont see the Straw hat pirates including Luffy having to fight and deal with any of the God Knights in the future unless they get defeated here by them and having to meet up for a round 2 in the Holy Land. The rest of the remaining Knights will probably get defeated by The Rev Army and by other outsider forces.

It would be cool though if we get some unexpected Knight reveals in the future that can turn things around