If Kyoshi was found early on

This is just for fun talk and discussion.We know Kyoshi is the only Avatar so far that didn't have the privilege of mastering her own native element while the other Avatars already mastered their own when they are reveal to be the Avatar.The factors were a lot from being abandoned,homeless,eat scums etccc.Do you think if she succeed the the toy test from both Jianzhu and Kelsang when she was 7 years old she will become a fully mastered Avatar earlier then what her original canon story is?

Based on the books she indeed learn all the four elements and some control of the Avatar State in short amount of time and by age 17 she is already proficient with them(Still not a master).But that was because she was in life and death situation being hunted down by Jianzhu.I mean if she was trained like a traditional way the Avatar should be.Is she going to be a prodigy as well like Aang and Korra or just a fast learner?

Edit:*one of cause Pavi is one of them.

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u/PrincipleEuphoric711 — 11 days ago

Can we talk about Kyoshi Earthbending style

Here is the gifs of Kyoshi that were only available during her prime so far and we know she is the one who created and Trained the Dai Li.

What I want to breakdown here is for the first clip I found that the way Kyoshi Earthbend the Earth guards here is fascinating.She create a 360 circle Earthbending move while remain on a pillar and the way the Earth move is not really like the way I saw any other Earthbenders use for example Korra when she fought the denied she use more like a punch and the effect of that are more like a small connected Earth block that came out from the ground and this is also the same for Toph it still does the same execution is just that Kyoshi one is different.(Maybe there is someone who use the same style that I forgotten correct me if I'm wrong).

Talking about the second gifs.I don't know if anyone notice but it seems like now Kyoshi can bend decent boulders the one she can't bend for example the Earth jug that was bended by Aoma(Who bullied Kyoshi)stated that jug is so massive required two grown men to lift it.But from the intro it seems like she can without using the fans.

The reason I provide also The Dai Li were because they were formed by Kyoshi and definitely by her teaching method and style.I notice that they don't move like a typical Earthbender like they are fast,agile and have good mobility they freaking move like a spiderman mix with Ninja and this must have been influence heavily by Kyoshi.So what do you think the Earthbending style of she is other than the simple Hung Gar style?

u/PrincipleEuphoric711 — 1 month ago

Kyoshi and the Dai Li

Hey guys I'm back.I wanna ask Based on the Dai Li feats can we use them to mirror how Kyoshi's Earthbending during her prime?since she is the one teaching them.The only thing she got from Jianzhu is his manuals and journals on how to carry out a mission and the only thing she got from Yun/Jianzhu is the Earth gloves that we saw the Dai Li use.What do you guys think?

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u/PrincipleEuphoric711 — 1 month ago

Can we talk about how Kyoshi can already control the Avatar State despite her only learn everything in short period of time?

The first time she enter the Avatar State is when she lifted the seafloor from the depth of the ocean in the south pole.But I don't count that cause that was more by her instinct rather than complete control over it.

The second one is when she saw Kelsang getting murdered by Jianzhu and she was blacked out uproot trees push mountain top and hilltop causing landslide and so on.This is her not in control.

But what was fascinating is during the fight with Xu Ping An after she have a little training with all the four elements not sure if she ever train with the Avatar State during this period of time.BUT she could very well control it during this fight.she fully aware of what she was doing,she even monologuing before Killing Xu and noted that the past Avatars can step behind since she was in command not them.

This is also prove in shadow of Kyoshi when she was getting nerfed by Jianzhu's poison after battling with him over the 3 storey building she flash the AS and use it to to hold the building until everyone get out of the property is when she let the building fall.She also use the AS to look for water to heal Rangi she even channel Kuruk asking for Water.

How can she able to control the AS in just a short period of time in the same book when she was 16?and could very well use it like a complete master at 17?I don't think she ever learn to control the Avatar State with Lao Ge nor did she ever travel to anywhere to complete her training since she said in shadow that she was busy doing her duty as the Avatar that she doesn't have time and a proper teacher to teach her.Do you think this is F.C Yee,mike and bryan decision?if so why?I mean in just these books I'm aware that after the event of the books she definitely travel to master everything.

Edit:It seems like people nowadays allergic to facts lol and just roll with everything they believe without hearing any logical and make sense points not just this but FACT statements as well and prove by how much they downvoted my comments and point.It feels like what they thought about Kyoshi need to stay like that they don't want any changes at all about her this is the interpretation I got from people in this community when it comes to Kyoshi.I don't neccesarily said she was a master Avatar State user at this point but she could very well use it LIKE a master Avatar should.I already made it clear in my post.

u/PrincipleEuphoric711 — 2 months ago
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I have a question about Szeto

Since when did he invented lavabending?or the one who was the first user of it?I saw so many people said the same thing about him and even make video of him the one inventing it like seriously?

Isn't he use the Avatar State for that?we saw during the episode "The Avatar State" Book 1 episode 1 where Roku explain the Avatar State to Aang showing four different Avatars including Szeto USE the Avatar State for that feat and people use this scene as a proof of him inventing and the first user of it and the animation didn't help also since they didn't show his eyes glow but he definitely is using the Avatar State cause why showing him there if it wasn't for that?If this is what it takes for him to inventing it I should use Kyoshi and Roku too since they do similar feats while in the Avatar state.I mean if he did use the Avatar State isn't that means there are Avatars before him who could do that as well?

u/PrincipleEuphoric711 — 2 months ago

Just for fun if you guys can build a strong team from each characters from different fictions what would your team looks like?

Mine will be Fourth Raikage(Naruto),Yami Sukehiro(Black Clover),Mimosa Vermillion(Same Black Clover),Yuta Okkostu(JJK),Frieren(Frieren beyond journey end) and Avatar Kyoshi(Avatar).

Fourth Raikage because of speed and he seems like a tank,Yami for the dimension slash,Mimosa for healing,Yuta for copy techniques and versatility,Frieren for Magic and Kyoshi for elemental coverage.

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u/PrincipleEuphoric711 — 2 months ago

Kyoshi vs Jianzhu

I just read the rise of Kyoshi book again this week and come across a duel between Kyoshi and Jianzhu over the 3 storey stone teahouse building.I find it interesting and surprising that despite both of them completely poisoned and weakend(Kyoshi with Shirsu poison) and Jianzhu drank his own poison so that he didn't being suspect of killing the Earth sages but the other chapter said that he was able to neutralize the poison thanks to the lesson from Master Amak a Waterbender from the Northern Water Tribe.Kyoshi was able to combat against him while only learn Earthbending for a while,I'm talking about control,precision and raw power and Kyoshi still didn't master Earthbending yet at this point confirmed by F.C Yee himself and still stalemate Jianzhu.Based on the statements above both of them were struggling against each others and I'm sure Kyoshi was doing more hardwork since she's the one who try to stop Jianzhu from collapsing the building.Do you think it will be a different scenario if both Kyoshi and Jianzhu isn't poison?or do you think Kyoshi will be at Jianzhu's level or surpass him with Earthbending in the future once she become a master and gain experience?

u/PrincipleEuphoric711 — 2 months ago
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Why does people said Kyoshi was not a good Waterbender?

I saw a lot of people not just here on reddit but in so many media platform downplayed and talking about Kyoshi not being a good waterbender and their argument was her forgetting she was a waterbender twice on two different ocassion which is funny to me since F.C Yee himself said that Waterbending is the second element after Earthbending that she got the most improvement from.This is some of her Waterbending feats from both books;

Water Propulsion (Canals) – Kyoshi waterbent a makeshift raft upstream through Ba Sing Se's drainage canals, using them as a fast shortcut to the Agrarian Zone.

Water Bubble Propulsion – While trapped underwater with Jinpa, Kyoshi created a rolling water bubble that rapidly carried both of them to the surface.

Underwater Burst Speed – After diving toward Yangchen's island, Kyoshi remembered to waterbend and propelled herself underwater faster than an elephant koi.

Full Moon Tidal Wave (with Kirima) –Empowered by the full moon, Kyoshi supplied the raw power while Kirima controlled it, lifting a massive body of water onto a rooftop before unleashing it through the compound. The tidal wave flooded entire corridors, swept guards from their posts, and burst through multiple walls before they released the water.

Wave & Ice – Kyoshi snapped a ship's mooring ropes, created a river-wide wave that carried it about 100 yards offshore, then instantly froze the wave into giant talons of ice that suspended the ship in midair.

Freeze lungs– Kyoshi instantly froze Yun's heart and lungs solid, creating a tunnel of ice through his chest so quickly and powerfully that the moisture in the air behind him crystallized into frost.

Self-Healing – Despite lacking formal healing training, Kyoshi used waterbending to heal the wound on her neck, knitting her skin back together without the usual healing glow.

Basic Battlefield Healing – Kyoshi used waterbending to stop bleeding, treat superficial injuries, and reset dislocated joints on wounded allies using her limited healing knowledge.

Life-Saving Healing – Kyoshi stabilized Rangi after she was impaled, using waterbending healing to help save her life.

Mind you the the water bubble and the underwater burst speed was after the moment she remember she was a waterbender.Yeah I know she still didn't master Water at this point and the healing didn't glow but for her to be able to achieve all of these feats are impressive and just ignoring all of these because of her forgetting doesn't sit right to me.What do you guys think?

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u/PrincipleEuphoric711 — 3 months ago