r/Avatar_Kyoshi

Image 1 — Would you want to see the cancelled Zuko movie reworked into a novel?
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Would you want to see the cancelled Zuko movie reworked into a novel?

I feel like the story's potential is to good to just leave it on the cutting room floor. Apparently it was cancelled since Avatar Studios wants to focus on TV in comparison to movies and the movie wouldn't have been as suitable for general audiences since it's darker and more political.

But I feel like this's something the novels do incredibly well by taking a more mature take on the Avatar world and its politics. I'd also love to see what the relationship between Zuko and Mai is like at this time (Or maybe they get back together in this film?) as well as Zuko finding Druk; just like Aang found the lost herd of Sky Bison in his movie. Some of the ideas for the movie included:

  1. A dark political thriller set shortly after the 100-Year War, featuring an assassination attempt on Zuko and Iroh by a mysterious assassin. The film would also delve deeper into Zuko’s relationship with Azula post-war.
  2. The film was going to be the origin story of The Red Lotus. They really wanted this to be an Azula/Zuko story, but it kept morphing into a Zuko/Iroh story. The story would focus on Xai Bau, the founder of the Red Lotus. The film would've revealed he was Iroh's long-lost friend during their time in the 100-Year War. Iroh and Xai Bau would've joined the Fire Nation military together and fully believed in conquering the other nations.
  3. Eventually, Xai Bau and Iroh both joined the White Lotus and found the dragons Ran & Shaw together. Xai Bau’s never shared the same ideals with Iroh and was very pro-Fire Nation as a country. Iroh had a change of heart on the war following the death of his son. Xai Bau developed the philosophical idea that nations shouldn’t have divine rulers and despised the Fire Nation monarchy. He secretly wanted the Fire Nation to conquer the world and overthrow the world leaders. Then he would overthrow the Fire Nation monarchy. He wanted to create true chaos and give the world back to the people, believing this was the only way to save every nation.
  4. Xai Bau leaves the White Lotus because he believes they became solely focused on helping the Avatar instead of being a secret force for the people of all nations. He then begins his mission to create the Order of the Red Lotus faction to fulfill his lifelong dream of a world without divine rulers. Fast-forward to the start of the film, and Xai Bau's the assassin behind the murders of Ran & Shaw, since he's the only other person to know their location. As well as the assassination attempts on Iroh and Zuko. Xai Bau finds Zuko working with Aang to unify the world, a direct threat to the anarchist world he wants to create.
  5. The film would've concluded with Iroh and Xai Bau in a final confrontation in the Spirit World.  There were discussions of Iroh dying in the film. The film may have introduced a new way to physically enter the Spirit World so Iroh could simply stay in the Spirit World instead of actually “dying.”
  6. A new actress had already signed on to voice Azula. Azula may have been a founding member of the Red Lotus or have a redemption arc to help save Zuko and Iroh. In the end, they decided Azula wouldn’t have done either, since she isn’t an anarchist and believes ruling over people is her birthright. Azula most likely would help Zuko and Iroh to keep the Royal Family alive to one day rule herself.
  7. Zaheer may have had a prominent role as Xai Bau builds his Red Lotus acolytes.
u/Zealousideal-Work719 — 9 days ago

If Kyoshi was found early on

This is just for fun talk and discussion.We know Kyoshi is the only Avatar so far that didn't have the privilege of mastering her own native element while the other Avatars already mastered their own when they are reveal to be the Avatar.The factors were a lot from being abandoned,homeless,eat scums etccc.Do you think if she succeed the the toy test from both Jianzhu and Kelsang when she was 7 years old she will become a fully mastered Avatar earlier then what her original canon story is?

Based on the books she indeed learn all the four elements and some control of the Avatar State in short amount of time and by age 17 she is already proficient with them(Still not a master).But that was because she was in life and death situation being hunted down by Jianzhu.I mean if she was trained like a traditional way the Avatar should be.Is she going to be a prodigy as well like Aang and Korra or just a fast learner?

Edit:*one of cause Pavi is one of them.

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u/PrincipleEuphoric711 — 11 days ago
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How important are Team Avatar members and descendants, to you?

I am working on a text based game based on Avatar: The Last Airbender, The Legend of Korra, Avatar Aang: The Last Airbender and The Chronicles of the Avatar novels

As stated in canon, friendships can last lifetimes. How important should members of past Team Avatars be, to future Avatars?

How long should descendants/their bloodline stick around?

Would humans/benders have had last names 10,000 years before Aang? Share ideas for last names that would work in canon please :)

u/zaviiiiiii — 10 days ago

Kyoshi's "perfect" Team Avatar.

Ok so, here's a thought experiment I've been partaking in since re-reading the novels last month:

How do you think the timeline needs to shift for Kyoshi to, ideally, get a 'perfect' team avatar?

Not a perfect life, just a team. And by that I mean a master of every element by her side, so it'd have to include: Yin, Rangi, Kelsang, and Kirima. Or that's my take, maybe you think another combination works (Replace Kelsang with Jinpa, for example?).

And specifically, I mean the timeline of the novels. Events can only shift from the moment Kelsang told Kyoshi she may be the avatar. Do you think telling Jianzhu earlier would've helped? Maybe if Kyoshi demonstrated firebending after being found out? Mayhaps Jianzhu deigned to save Yun from Father Glowworm?

I repeat, just in case: I don't mean a perfect life. Just a complete, somewhat stable Team Avatar, which she never really got.

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u/BillErakDragonDorado — 11 days ago

How old do you think Kyoshi was when she was in her "prime"?

Do you think we can consider 42 year old Kyoshi that defeated Chin the Conqueror to be in her prime or do you think her 200+ year old self is a better version of the character?

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u/NotAsUsual — 12 days ago