Pointless trying to debate with religious people asking a simple atheist question.
Religious debaters just keep avoid answering why God exists by deflecting questions, circular reasoning, or winning the crowd over to undermine the questioner rather than addressing the core argument.
‘Why do you think God is real?’
- They’ll start with the same philosophy of it can’t infinitely regress, therefore it has to be a necessary being, and we humans call this necessary being God. What’s stopping this from just being an alien, or a mindless force, or just literally anything that has power? And soon as I bring this up the response is always targeted replies like ‘can you believe this guy?’, ‘how could it be an alien LOL’.
I just don’t get it, how do you genuinely call this an argument from going from ‘necessarily being’ to ‘it’s God we humans define this as God’? Why do so many people still use this as an argument when it could literally be anything? There’s as much weight as me saying ‘why couldn’t a dog with powers make it’ and then they switch to making me look dumb.
1.5. Got this post on a different community and so the replies made sense to me why agnostics exist as it’s pretty much just philosophy and abstract concepts. But then these theists (anecdotally only ones I’ve spoken to) basically just proved that they’re just agnostics who just chose a religion probably because of family.
- For example a recent moment when I asked this question:
‘when you ask is God real, you’re asking me do I think MY God is real?’
‘so therefore, you’re asking me do I believe my God is true?’
‘so therefore, you’re asking do I believe Islam is true?’
‘but how can I reply to your question if you don’t even think God is real?’
And now we’re somehow 5 topics away from the question and I’m answering all of his questions.
And throughout this would just nitpick words I say (I’m not a debater so I speak with way more mistakes than these people) and just somehow end up 5 topics away as well as the crowd thinking he’s a genius.
Can any theists actually answer the question directly? Or are almost all just going to find a way to redirect the topic to something completely different. It makes no sense how theists can be so wholeheartedly religious whilst being unable to answer a simple question as that.