u/Puzzled-Avocado393

shinobu and douma

1
Douma is eating one of the girls, every girl has matching wound patterns so we can assume they all died to the same thing. “PSST” noise implies there is ice melting and seeping since you don’t make a PSST noise when you are eating, his BDA is evidently in the area before Shinobu arrives
2
Shinobu saves the one alive girl from Douma’s attack, doesn’t see anything wrong with herself or the girl. The girl is reacting to something, and tries to speak but she can’t. Something is stopping her from talking, she was able to talk before. Douma notes how fast she is, so he accepts Shinobu not being affected by anything (maybe evading something) shinobu is holding the girl so the girl was not affected if shinobu wasn’t. Note that there is an effect illustrated around the girl showing that something is happening. A cut from his fans would’ve been instant, not spanning over two panels.
3
The girl reacts to something, changes her facial expression again so something was happening overtime. Her head was shaved clean off so she would not be able to react like this if she didn’t see douma attacking her with his fans.
This is because Douma’s BDA is what actually killed her, we can see her blood swell up and come out of her mouth yet her head wasn’t connected to her body so this wouldn’t be possible unless the blood was already doing this. This also explains Shinobu not reacting to it, and Shinobu not being affected by it, and all of the girls dying to Douma’s BDA. This is not a perception blitz to Shinobu or to Douma
Douma reacts with “Oh…” or “Ah…” depending on your translation implying he didn’t expect that outcome. He also says he will eat her later, implicating his desire to toy with the girl more which means he wasn’t aiming for her, Shinobu didn’t use her as a meat shield so he didn’t use his fans to cut her.
4
Shinobu remembers Kanae’s description after he unsheathed his fans. She remembered because of the fans, not because of the cut. The panels being one after the other is not implicative of anything. Note that there is no blood on these fans, and no sign of him ever cutting the girl or being deflected by shinobu.
5
Douma gets outpaced by Shinobu. This is not a perception blitz, he reacted to and saw this attack before it hit as he raises his hand in an attempt to block it but couldn’t because Shinobu was one step ahead of him.
6
Refer to 5.
This is the panel where every breathing technique Shinobu uses after this will weaken her more. This is also when she gets Necrosis, and Douma’s BDA has been inhaled into her body and is actively freezing her blood and expanding inside of her.
7
Refer to 6, Douma commends her speed again which shows he wasn’t toying around with her, and could not react to her attacks any time that she moves one step ahead of him. Note that his BDA blends into the air around him even after he uses it. It does not dissolve.
8/13
Shinobu does not gain a death amp here, she is using all of her attainable strength to defeat the demon as we will see in 12 later. She also doesn’t gain a death amp as every breathing technique she uses weakens her and makes douma’s BDA expand faster and quickens her death which would do the same to her as it did to the girls in 1 2 and 3, she wasn’t close to death and only had a timer given
9
Shinobu outpaces Douma here, he can still perceive her and only lost track of her for a moment before he sees her again in 10. “I can’t predict her attack” is proof of him seeing her trajectory but being unable to match her speed before getting outpaced
10
Shinobu thrusts Douma after he fails to react to her “coming in low” piercing his neck, sending him skywards and leaving a hole in the wooden bridge. She also leaves an afterimage which is depicted as wind trajectory in the anime
11
Douma gets thrusted into the ceiling and all of the glass around him breaks, showcasing Shinobu’s force which she pushed through while Douma’s weight pushed her down
12
Douma fails to react, the wisteria is able to move as he failed to use flesh manipulation to counteract it in time and is temporarily incapacitated as he does the generic anime knocked out emote, there is no proof stating Shinobu couldn’t do this to any other demon, and shows that this can just be because she was determined to defeat Douma “if we defeat the upper rank we can save hundreds” it’s not just about kanae, she has to give it her all against the upper rank
13
She didn’t get perception blitzed, she shows no shock or disbelief in being hit and only exclaims that she was hit. Her eyes also follow douma’s next place right after so she did see his movements, this is just an outpace as they do this to each other throughout the fight

This fight was a game of cat and mouse except they constantly swap the roles

u/Puzzled-Avocado393 — 1 month ago

What was gotouge trying to say here? Does this mean the strongest upper moon is kokushibo and the weakest is gyutaro/daki/kaigaku? Who would’ve guessed??

rui has nothing to do with gyutaro and daki and was specifically stated to not care about blood battles

u/Puzzled-Avocado393 — 1 month ago

Do you think needing to become serious, alert, and unlocking the completed version of sun breathing constitutes a no-diff?

be serious don’t just glaze yoriichi

u/Puzzled-Avocado393 — 2 months ago

Sanity check: Michikatsu vs Muzan

Assume michikatsu is at his full power that he has at this scene
Assume muzan treats him as he treated yoriichi before he almost killed muzan (no trauma)

u/Puzzled-Avocado393 — 2 months ago